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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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I have another question,

If I withdrew the I-130 and the I-129F petition. Can I file a whole new set of petitions later on?

Thank you.

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My questions is can my spouse live in the USA with me waiting his K3 Visa to be approved?

Is there a form I can file with the USCIS to allow him to stay and have his interview here in the US?

My spouse is currently out of the country and would like to return to await his approval and his interview here in the USA. We have already filed I-130 and got NOA1 with Priority Date being 17March2014 and is still in initial review. We filed I-129F 20May2014 (After he left to go back to Oz on 19May2014, One of the hardest times of my life, letting that man go. I miss his so much). He and I talked and we both want him to come back. We're hope there is a form we can file to have it all done while he is here.

Please, help.

Thank you in advance!

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Scotland
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If he arrived under the VWP with intent to visit only, but plans changed and you get married, your spouse could have overstayed the 90 days and remained in the USA pending the immigrant Visa (and adjusted status). Because your spouse has left the country, he can now only visit under the terms of the VWP, and cannot overstay the 90 days, or adjust status. You will need to go through the full CR1 process (if you file the K3, it's likely to be administratively closed, mine was last week) before your spouse can live with you.

If your spouse travelled to the USA on VWP prior to being married, and your intent prior to his arrival was to marry, file to have him immigrate and remain in the USA, this would also be in breach of the VWP. It's only possible to remain in the USA on VWP pending immigration if you arrived to the states with intent to visit, but subsequently the plans changed. You cannot adjust status on the VWP if you arrive in the states with intent to immigrate.

I-130 Timeline

 

NOA1 July 3rd 2013

Transfer to CSC January 7th 2014
RFE (eNotification) February 20th 2014 - RFE (Hardcopy) arrives in mail March 7th 2014
RFE Evidence sent March 10th 2014 - RFE Received at CSC March 11th 2014
NOA2 April 9th 2014

NVC Timeline
Received at NVC - May 14th 2014
Assigned Case # / IIN / BIN - May 16th 2014
DS-261 Completed online - May 19th 2014
DS-261 & AOS Bill email received - May 20th 2014
AOS Bill paid - May 20th 2014 Show's as Paid on portal - May 21st 2014
AOS Package sent - May 21st 2014 AOS Package received/scanned - May 27th 2014
DS-261 Reviewed - June 9th 2014
IV Fee invoiced and paid - June 10th 2014 Shows a Paid on portal - June 16th 2014
IV Package sent - June 10th 2014 IV Docs received/scanned - June 17th 2014
DS-260 Available and completed - June 16th 2014
AOS Checklist generated - June 27th 2014 AOS Checklist email - June 30th 2014
AOS Checklist response sent - June 30th 2014 AOS Checklist response received/scanned - July 9th 2014
IV Package reviewed and accepted - August 1st 2014
AOS Checklist reviewed and accepted - August 22nd 2014 Case Complete - August 22nd 2014
Left NVC - September 10th 2014



Embassy Timeline

 

Medical - May 27th 2014
Interview scheduled - September 2nd 2014
Case arrived at Embassy - September 16th 2014
Interview Date - September 29th (Changed from October 31st 2014) - APPROVED!!!
Visa in hand - October 7th 2014 - Entry to USA - October 8th (LAX)

Removal of Conditions Timeline (I-751)

Packet mailed - September 6th 2016 - Signed for September 8th
NOA (receipt date) - September 8th 2016 - Physical letter received September 12th 2016

Called USCIS as no biometrics letter received - Service Request raised October 13th

Biometrics letter- Letter mailed October 14th - letter received October 17th 2015

Biometrics appointment - October 31st 2016

InfoPass stamp - October 25th 2017 (expires October 24th 2018)

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Scotland
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I have another question,

If I withdrew the I-130 and the I-129F petition. Can I file a whole new set of petitions later on?

Thank you.

Yes, you can withdraw the petition and file later on, but your spouse still cannot remain in the states while you file a new petition. Unfortunately, because your spouse left the states after you married, you've missed that opportunity (as did I as I was unaware of the process).

as a non-US citizen/resident visiting the US under the VWP/ESTA, he is doing just that, VISITING. The terms of the ESTA state that you cannot adjust your status. The ONLY exception to this rule, is if you spontaneously marry and petition for immigration while your spouse is already in the states on the SAME visit as the marriage. Unfortunately, like the majority of people on here, you will need to wait on the full I-130/CR1 process. If you withdraw the petition and file again later, all you are doing is starting the 1+ year wait further down the line.

If you have already petitioned, and you want to pursue it, leave it as is and wait for your NOA2.

When your spouse visits, he will need a return ticket, proof of employment/housing (or as much evidence of commitments in his home country as possible).

I-130 Timeline

 

NOA1 July 3rd 2013

Transfer to CSC January 7th 2014
RFE (eNotification) February 20th 2014 - RFE (Hardcopy) arrives in mail March 7th 2014
RFE Evidence sent March 10th 2014 - RFE Received at CSC March 11th 2014
NOA2 April 9th 2014

NVC Timeline
Received at NVC - May 14th 2014
Assigned Case # / IIN / BIN - May 16th 2014
DS-261 Completed online - May 19th 2014
DS-261 & AOS Bill email received - May 20th 2014
AOS Bill paid - May 20th 2014 Show's as Paid on portal - May 21st 2014
AOS Package sent - May 21st 2014 AOS Package received/scanned - May 27th 2014
DS-261 Reviewed - June 9th 2014
IV Fee invoiced and paid - June 10th 2014 Shows a Paid on portal - June 16th 2014
IV Package sent - June 10th 2014 IV Docs received/scanned - June 17th 2014
DS-260 Available and completed - June 16th 2014
AOS Checklist generated - June 27th 2014 AOS Checklist email - June 30th 2014
AOS Checklist response sent - June 30th 2014 AOS Checklist response received/scanned - July 9th 2014
IV Package reviewed and accepted - August 1st 2014
AOS Checklist reviewed and accepted - August 22nd 2014 Case Complete - August 22nd 2014
Left NVC - September 10th 2014



Embassy Timeline

 

Medical - May 27th 2014
Interview scheduled - September 2nd 2014
Case arrived at Embassy - September 16th 2014
Interview Date - September 29th (Changed from October 31st 2014) - APPROVED!!!
Visa in hand - October 7th 2014 - Entry to USA - October 8th (LAX)

Removal of Conditions Timeline (I-751)

Packet mailed - September 6th 2016 - Signed for September 8th
NOA (receipt date) - September 8th 2016 - Physical letter received September 12th 2016

Called USCIS as no biometrics letter received - Service Request raised October 13th

Biometrics letter- Letter mailed October 14th - letter received October 17th 2015

Biometrics appointment - October 31st 2016

InfoPass stamp - October 25th 2017 (expires October 24th 2018)

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I see.

Yes, We was unaware of him being "protected" and not having to return to Australia when he was here the first time. The officer at the USCIS informed us to file the other forms with the I-130 asap, HOWEVER, stated he was unsure how it would pan out and gave us little to no information about him not having to leave the US when his ESTA ran out.

We married in Parramatta, NSW and he returned to the States with me. I wish we would have known that he didn't have to go when I filed the I-130 if I filed the I-485 with it. I suppose its best to always consult an attorney when your unsure of things.

I have read some where that while the I-130 is in initial review you can still file the I-485 and other forms if needed but make sure you have a cover letter on the form stating you have the I-130 in initial review so that the mail room will send it to the proper department. I believe that is if my husband was still in the states, but I'm still not sure because if he comes to the states without intent to stay and we decided that he needs to stay... how would that work? He would have a return ticket of course...

I'm just curious and looking at all options...

Maybe me and the girls should just pack up and move to Australia...

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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Australia
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As far as I know, the information about him staying in the USA is only based on the assumption of marrying in the USA, Turtle's Wife. That you married in Parramatta (nice suburb, my FIL lives there) means the information about changing your mind when here on VWP isn't applicable. You're going to have to file for CR1 and wait the year plus.

As for moving to Australia, well. That has a whole bunch of other issues ahold of it, and clearly we made a different choice. ;-)

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Morocco
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Yes, you are already married. He can't come here and stay because he changed his mind after entering.

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K1 Visa
Event Date
Service Center : Texas Service Center
Consulate : Morocco
I-129F Sent : 2011-03-07
I-129F NOA2 : 2011-07-08
Interview Date : 2011-11-01
Interview Result : Approved
Visa Received : 2011-11-03
US Entry : 2012-02-28
Marriage : 2012-03-05
AOS sent: 05/16/2012
AOS received USCIS: 5/23/2012
EAD Delivered: 8/3/2012
AOS Interview: 08/20/2012.
Green Card Received: 08/27/2012

ROC Form Sent 07/17/2014

ROC NOA 07/24/2014
ROC Biometrics Appt. 8/21/2014
ROC RFE 10/2014 Evidence sent 1/4/2014

ROC Approval Letter received 1/13/2015

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Well we are already two and half months in the hurry up and wait game.

Makes you feel some what hopeful it will move faster since I got my NOA1 with in a few weeks but haven't heard anything since....

What a bummer this process doesn't go faster. If I find a loop hole I'll let you all know. ;) I will keep searching for it.

Thanks again,

Turtle's Wife

Edited to add: Yes, Parramatta is beautiful. The whole country is for that matter. If I had it my way we would be living there instead of here.

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Water under the bridge. Look at this time apart as a way to tie up all the loose ends and get ready for your life together.

If you decide to chance him coming here and adjusting status remember there is no appeal if it is denied (VWP waive all rights to appeal) and the trouble cause by this may mean you are separated longer than if you had stayed the course. If you cancel the petitions there is still a record of them having been filed....just saying.

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Australia
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Maybe me and the girls should just pack up and move to Australia...

Not a terrible option. We ARE going back soon.

But it your case moving to Oz won't solve the problem: instead of you spouse - YOU (and the girls) will be waiting for an equivalent of AOS/Green Card. And it's bloody expensive to file! Over $3K if the memory serves....

I am a USC. My husband is a beneficiary. Adjusted from E-3.

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This might sound clichéd, but even though the time you might have to spend waiting for your NOA2 seems really long right now, after it's approved and you get every other step out of the way, you begin to wonder where the time is gone.

ROC from CR-1 visa (Green Card expiration date was Nov 24th 2016)

 

Link to the evidence I submitted. Be sure to send evidence spanning your entire marriage (especially for K-1) or as far back as you can. Just one or two bank statements will not cut it. I primarily focused on the two years of living here since I came in on a CR-1. If you don't have the fundamentals (i.e. joint accounts/policies), you can explain why in the covering letter. E.g. "While we do not have joint utilities, we both contribute to them from our joint bank account".

 

September 26th 2016: I-751 package sent to CSC

September 28th 2016: Package delivered
September 30th 2016: Check cashed
October 3rd 2016: NOA1 received with receipt date of 09/28/16
November 3rd 2016: Biometrics received with appointment date of 11/14/16.
November 14th 2016: Attended biometrics appointment
October 30th 2017: Infopass appointment to get I-551 stamp
February 26th 2018: I-751 case number (aka the NOA1 receipt number) becomes trackable
March 14th 2018: Submitted service request due to being outside of processing time.

March 15th 2018: ROC approved. 535 days (1 year, 5 months and 17 days)

March 29th 2018: Card being produced

April 4th 2018: Card mailed out

April 6th 2018: Card in hand. Has incorrect "resident since" date. Submitted service request on I-751 case (typographical error on permanent resident card) and an I-90 online.

April 2018 - August 7th 2018: Tons of service requests, emails and now senator involvement to get my corrected green card back because what the heck, USCIS. Also some time in May I sent a letter to Potomac telling them I want to withdraw my I-90 since CSC were handling it.

August 8th 2018: Card in production thanks to the direct involvement of Senator Sherrod Brown's team

August 13th 2018: Card mailed

August 15th 2018: Card in hand with correct date. :joy:

October 31st 2018: Potomac sends out a notice stating they have closed out my I-90 per my request. Yay for no duplicate card drama.

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This might sound clichéd, but even though the time you might have to spend waiting for your NOA2 seems really long right now, after it's approved and you get every other step out of the way, you begin to wonder where the time is gone.

Yes, I agree.

It will feel that way once the NOA2 is actually in my hands. I'm looking at yours and it seemed to move pretty fast once you got your NOA2. I'll inform him not to come because I want this to move as fast as possible. We don't need any snags in the road and if he hits US soil it may raise a few questions.

Thank you!

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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Australia
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I'll inform him not to come because I want this to move as fast as possible. We don't need any snags in the road and if he hits US soil it may raise a few questions.

Er, definitely talk to people who have filed CR1, because it might be different, but there shouldn't be any issues in visiting, so long as he can prove he's going to return. My then-fiancé visited twice after we filed for our K1, including almost six weeks at Christmas/New Years.

As far as I understand, having an immigration petition in progress does not make someone ineligible for a visit. But, like I said earlier, make sure you have all the documents necessary to show he has ties to Australia that guarantee he will return at the end of his trip. (Do you really want to be apart and not see him for a year? NOA2 is just the beginning, and CR1 VISAs are running over a year to final approval. You can check the timeline (figured out by other people doing the same thing) here: http://www.visajourney.com/content/ir1cr1historical .)

Also, if you fill out your timeline, you'll be able to look for people with similar history/experience to yours (so it should pull up how long it's taking for CR1s for Australia).

Cheers.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Italy
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Having him visit while the CR1 is in process will not effect the process at all... Having him visit the USA now and they try to file for AOS IS an issue and visa fraud... As long as he is admitted by showing ties to his home country and goes back before the end of the 90 days... No issue.

10/14/2000 - Met Aboard a Cruise ship

06/14/2003 - Married Savona Italy

I-130

03/21/2009 - I-130 Mailed to Chicago lockbox

11-30-09: GOT GREEN CARD in mail!!!!!!

Citizenship Process;

1/11/2013: Mailed N400 to Dallas Texas

3/11/2013: interview.. Approved

4/4/2013. : Oath! Now a U.S. citizen!

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So where does the I-129F come into play? I've filed both. Doesn't once cancel out the other if one is processed before the I-130 is approved or denied?

So If I got a 12 month Visa for me and our girls would I have to be in the US before it gets shipped to the NVC and then his country?

Looking at all my options...

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