Roll Call of Fallen Commrades

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

Naw, she's too uppity to do the deed when I'm having a heavy flow.

Sounds like I need to hook her up with my wife. All that uppity stuff will just melt away...

[GandD 5,966]

Sounds like I need to hook her up with my wife. All that uppity stuff will just melt away...

I told her she was being racist but she didn't get it.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Here's the link for the second exchange I was talking about. Read the dialogue between Harpa and me.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/507554-police-still-weighing-whether-to-charge-man-who-allegedly-killed-burglar/page-2

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

The original Cheerios comment was made about the Truth to imply that she had gotten up on the wrong side of the bed, was in a bad mood etc. Some took it as knock on all women here. The b!tches comment was fabricated by a female user here after the fact. I still have the email with the original post which I offered to post way back when this bs started, but I was advised not to by moderation.

This same female user and I were discussing something in one of the gun or shooting threads a couple of weeks ago. It was something about using force or not, and I asked would you run away if you walked in on someone assaulting one of your family members or would you take action. The comment I got was, " we were having a decent discussion and you have to throw in a snide remark about me not caring about my family". I have no idea how anyone could have gotten that from what I posted. I apologized, saying there was no intent of offending you and that is clearly not what I implied. Naturally, there was no response to that post. Same situation as the Cheerios BS. Either over reaction about nothing, or intentionally stirring the pot. Take your pick.

The OP of the original comment wasn't even permitted by moderation to explain his comment. He merely stated that The Truth was a grumpy poster. The rest of you turned it into the all females are b!tches nonsense. If he said your a crabby grouch it would have meant the same thing and I'd bet that no drama would have followed. The comment was directed at one user, and with good reason for the comments in question, but that part is conveniently ignored.

I remember that post, and when I read what you said, then her response, I immediately replied, saying that was not what you said (at least not how I took it). You said something to the effect that if it WERE her family, she may feel differently about it.

I told her she was being racist but she didn't get it.

So at least it goes both ways in your house. That seems fair...

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Thank you for the context. If that's the case, and no greater animus was expressed towards us collectively, then it's been blown out of proportion. I remember it differently, but perhaps incorrectly. Thanks.

I provided a link to the second exchange. Read it and tell me what you think.

And I truly believe that the cereal thing was blown out of proportion and I take responsibility for bringing it up again on a few occasions, but it was done without malice to prove a point. I don't have any grudges here.

I can even dig up the original post as long as the OP gives me the ok to do so.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

I remember that post, and when I read what you said, then her response, I immediately replied, saying that was not what you said (at least not how I took it). You said something to the effect that if it WERE her family, she may feel differently about it.

I just linked to that thread. You understood what I meant. It was simply put yourself in the other persons shoes and you may react in a similar manner.

[GandD 5,966]

We have to stick together folks. Because we all like to come here and hate all over each other.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

We have to stick together folks. Because we all like to come here and hate all over each other.

At least I'm not prejudiced. I hate everyone. Equally. You hate fat people. Marvin hates pork and white people. Uncle hates Obama.

[GandD 5,966]

At least I'm not prejudiced. I hate everyone. Equally. You hate fat people. Marvin hates pork and white people. Uncle hates Obama.

Can one be predjudiced against fat people? It's not really a race or something people are born with. They just eat more calories than they burn.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Can one be predjudiced against fat people? It's not really a race or something people are born with. They just eat more calories than they burn.

Of course! Prejudice isn't always about race. It's prejudging, it's bias.

[decocker 7,198]

Can one be predjudiced against fat people? It's not really a race or something people are born with. They just eat more calories than they burn.

people can be born genetically predisposed to fatlyfe.

[GandD 5,966]

people can be born genetically predisposed to fatlyfe.

Blah. Very small percentage.

Of course! Prejudice isn't always about race. It's prejudging, it's bias.

My rule is, never judge people for something they can't help. Everything else is fair game.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Blah. Very small percentage.

See, that is a prejudiced statement right there.

Blah. Very small percentage.

My rule is, never judge people for something they can't help. Everything else is fair game.

So people shouldn't judge you for judging?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Well, since you don't want to let it go, I'll explain so that you understand better.

the knob slobbering boy toy part referred to your almost daily penchant for chiming in on many of MBDs posts, rarely with anything substantive, and often just mocking or otherwise denigrating others on VJ. The Hamas part was because in another thread, you seemed to be supportive of their actions against Israel.

I apologized to MBD because even though he says inflammatory things at times, even though he has been known to toss out the insults when people don't agree with him, and even though he seems to hold my country in low regard... he is very good at presenting facts. In short, I have learned from him and his abrasive attitude in the time that I have been here. And I have been around the world enough to know that in person, he is probably not the same as he appears here, most likely more tolerable. Most are, I think.

I did not apologize to you because I didn't really remember that part of my rant, it was secondary to my attack on MBD. I don't like the way you suck up to him, and for the way that you insult others on here, often with little value added to a topic. But if that's your style, so be it, I have no more right to ask you to be civil than I have to ask you to pull up your pants I reckon. You are slightly more credible (in my opinion) than TheTruth was. That's why I chose to block you a while after I did her. Which I now know is a waste of time, since I see half or more of what is posted due to quotes. So I will unblock you, and hope I can find more logic and less hatefulness in your posts. To your credit, it seems you may have been doing less of that lately, but it's hard to say, because I don't see everything you post.

I will apologize for the "knob slobbering" part of my comments to you, that was uncalled for. The part where you jump on MBDs bandwagon all the time like you feel a need to praise him, that sticks, cuz that's the way I see it. "Boy toy" is the wrong term, I think "biggest fan" may be the more PC way to say it.

And if you tell me that you are not a supporter of Hamas, I will add an apology for saying that. Just seemed to be your leaning in another thread, and I was particularly tired of hearing people support a group of people who hide behind civilians (not only here, but other sources too), and I took that out on you. If you DO support the terrorist activities of Hamas, then stick it.

OK fair enough. A couple of points:

First, I've known MBD since 2004, he's one of the oldest members here, as am I. However, great suggestion that I have a penchant for chiming in on his posts on an "almost daily basis" is factually incorrect. I rarely reply to his posts, whether I agree with then or not. It simply isn't true.

Second, yes I do insult people. Because some people deserve to be insulted for the views that they hold. Misogynists, racists, homophobes, fascists etc. They all deserve to be insulted. However insulted by holding their feet to the fire in relation to what they post. I am offended, for example, by people who glorify violence and the death penalty as being a civilised means of dealing with offenders.

The thread I posted that caused all the ruckus was about the disposable attitude the justice system has to youth offenders, giving them outrageous jail terms in institutions where rape and murder are commonplace. Once again, I'm offended by the 'lock them up and throw away the key' attitude. An attitude that justifies institutional brutality.

Third, I an clearly not a Hamas supporter. I think a reasonable person could conclude that if I oppose the death penalty, violent abuses in prisons and the attitude that people deserve what they get, it's probably a fair bet that I'm not going to support a group of violent extremists.

That of course doesn't mean that I don't understand where the extremism cones from or Israels role in exacerbating it.

[GandD 5,966]

See, that is a prejudiced statement right there.

So people shouldn't judge you for judging?

Well, I wasn't born someone that judges other people and I'm quite capable of not judging other people, so i'd say I'm fair game.

Spooks, if you're interested in losing weight, I can probably help