China Amassing forces to the Border with Vietnam

[luckytxn 2,265]

Pray for soon to be new autonomous region of China

http://chinadailymail.com/2014/05/18/large-number-of-chinese-troops-seen-heading-for-china-vietnam-border/

A large number of People’s Liberation Army troops have reportedly been spotted heading towards theChina-Vietnam border as tensions between the two countries continue to escalate, reports Hong Kong’sSing Tao Daily. Sing Tao Daily is generally considered to be aligned to Chinese state media.

Thousands of Chinese nationals living or on business in Vietnam have already fled the country amid anti-China riots, which were sparked by a tense standoff between Chinese and Vietnamese naval ships near a Chinese oil rig in disputed waters off theParacel Islands in the South China Sea on May 4.

The Chinese foreign ministry confirmed Friday that at least two Chinese nationals have been killed and nearly a hundred were injured during violent protests last week that saw dozens of Chinese, Taiwanese and Hong Kong factories set on fire. The UK’s Guardian claims as many as 21 people have died.

As yet another large-scale anti-China protest was scheduled for Sunday, Chinese netizens reported seeing an “endless stream” of PLA soldiers in full combat gear at Chongzuo train station, apparently on their way to the 97-kilometre China-Vietnam border at Pingxiang city in southern China’s Guangxi Zhuang autonomous region. The soldiers were said to have been accompanied by tanks, armoured vehicles, missile launchers and other heavy artillery.

Pingxiang was where the Sino-Vietnamese War of 1979 began, and locals are reportedly preparing to evacuate the area out of fears of an imminent military conflict.

Last week, Beijing denied that PLA troops had been sent to Guangxi and also denied reports that neighbouring Yunnan province had been put on high alert and escalated to combat readiness levels, but that has not stopped rumours of a military response to the Vietnam riots from continuing.

Update 19th May 2014 – Epoch Times reports:

Troops, tanks, trucks, artillery, and armored personnel carriers of China’s military were seen heading to the Vietnamese border on May 16 and 17, according to photographs taken by by residents near the border.

Chinese netizens have been posting photographs of the large movement of the People’s Liberation Army, many of them showing Chinese troops in full combat gear heading to the local train station in Chongzuo, along with military vehicles.

One netizen said the Chinese military was taking the train from the Chongzuo station to Pingxiang City, which shares a 60-mile border with Vietnam. The netizen said that the Huu Nghi Border Gate to Vietnam is also now closed.

One of the photos, taken from inside a passenger train, shows the Chinese military preparing artillery for transport on a train track. Others show Chinese troops and military vehicles traveling along dirt roads.

Another photograph shows troops walking under the red-colored entrance to the Longzhou International Building Materials Market, on Provincial Road in the city of Chongzuo.

A reverse image search of each of the photographs using Google indicated that the photographs had appeared on the Internet only recently. Most were indexed by Google on Saturday.

Collectively, the images and eyewitness reports from the ground show what Taiwanese media are calling an “endless stream” of Chinese troops.

One netizen, with the username Zhiyuan0703, echoed a common sentiment on the Chinese social media site, “Conflict between China and Vietnam is imminent.”

China is currently involved in territorial conflicts with nearly all its neighbours.

[Operator 1,927]

Big trouble in little China.

[Darnell 8,479]

this might get ugly, fast.

[luckytxn 2,265]

Yeah Chinese Communist punk regime doesn't appear to have a sense of humor.

Big trouble in little China.

[mota bhai 2,675]

China can never hold Vietnam. Those guys ain't no ****y Tibetans.

[luckytxn 2,265]

I just hope my wifes relatives nearer to the border evacuate early just in case.

this might get ugly, fast.

Well they have to learn I guess like we did.

China can never hold Vietnam. Those guys ain't no ****y Tibetans.

[Operator 1,927]

Maybe they are going to protect the ethnic Chinese like Putin did in Crimea.

[Pooky 3,844]

Pray for soon to be new autonomous region of China

http://chinadailymail.com/2014/05/18/large-number-of-chinese-troops-seen-heading-for-china-vietnam-border/

A large number of Peoples Liberation Army troops have reportedly been spotted heading towards theChina-Vietnam border as tensions between the two countries continue to escalate, reports Hong KongsSing Tao Daily. Sing Tao Daily is generally considered to be aligned to Chinese state media.

Thousands of Chinese nationals living or on business in Vietnam have already fled the country amid anti-China riots, which were sparked by a tense standoff between Chinese and Vietnamese naval ships near a Chinese oil rig in disputed waters off theParacel Islands in the South China Sea on May 4.

The Chinese foreign ministry confirmed Friday that at least two Chinese nationals have been killed and nearly a hundred were injured during violent protests last week that saw dozens of Chinese, Taiwanese and Hong Kong factories set on fire. The UKs Guardian claims as many as 21 people have died.

As yet another large-scale anti-China protest was scheduled for Sunday, Chinese netizens reported seeing an endless stream of PLA soldiers in full combat gear at Chongzuo train station, apparently on their way to the 97-kilometre China-Vietnam border at Pingxiang city in southern Chinas Guangxi Zhuang autonomous region. The soldiers were said to have been accompanied by tanks, armoured vehicles, missile launchers and other heavy artillery.

Pingxiang was where the Sino-Vietnamese War of 1979 began, and locals are reportedly preparing to evacuate the area out of fears of an imminent military conflict.

Last week, Beijing denied that PLA troops had been sent to Guangxi and also denied reports that neighbouring Yunnan province had been put on high alert and escalated to combat readiness levels, but that has not stopped rumours of a military response to the Vietnam riots from continuing. Update 19th May 2014 Epoch Times reports:

Troops, tanks, trucks, artillery, and armored personnel carriers of Chinas military were seen heading to the Vietnamese border on May 16 and 17, according to photographs taken by by residents near the border.

Chinese netizens have been posting photographs of the large movement of the Peoples Liberation Army, many of them showing Chinese troops in full combat gear heading to the local train station in Chongzuo, along with military vehicles.

One netizen said the Chinese military was taking the train from the Chongzuo station to Pingxiang City, which shares a 60-mile border with Vietnam. The netizen said that the Huu Nghi Border Gate to Vietnam is also now closed.

One of the photos, taken from inside a passenger train, shows the Chinese military preparing artillery for transport on a train track. Others show Chinese troops and military vehicles traveling along dirt roads.

Another photograph shows troops walking under the red-colored entrance to the Longzhou International Building Materials Market, on Provincial Road in the city of Chongzuo.

A reverse image search of each of the photographs using Google indicated that the photographs had appeared on the Internet only recently. Most were indexed by Google on Saturday.

Collectively, the images and eyewitness reports from the ground show what Taiwanese media are calling an endless stream of Chinese troops.

One netizen, with the username Zhiyuan0703, echoed a common sentiment on the Chinese social media site, Conflict between China and Vietnam is imminent.

China is currently involved in territorial conflicts with nearly all its neighbours.

Last time these two used live fire, China got embarrassed. This time around, the PLA would not be hampered by a technology disadvantage, would not be facing battle-hardened troops not long out of a major conflict, and would be much better organised than they were 35 years ago. Vietnam won't fare so well, if the PLA is given the order to roll.

[luckytxn 2,265]

Well that have been evacuating them so they should be protected well.

Maybe they are going to protect the ethnic Chinese like Putin did in Crimea.

[mota bhai 2,675]

The PLA aren't exactly battle hardened either, though.

[Darnell 8,479]

luckytxn, on 19 May 2014 - 9:23 PM, said:

Well that have been evacuating them so they should be protected well.

that was my first thought, but there seems to be a huge exodus.

why the backlash?

1. disputed sea areas for fishing and oil and

2. chinese businessmen making money in vietnam, affecting a closed economic system in the same way it's done in 10 countries in Africa (at the moment), and taking the money OUT of Vietnam, OUT of that closed economic system.

Edited May 20, 2014 by Darnell

[luckytxn 2,265]

True. The last time Russia massed troops along the China border and that meant that the experienced and well trained troops had to mass along the border and face them. Then they sent the inexperienced badly led troops into Vietnam thinking it would be a cakewalk. They even said within a week they would be in Hanoi. They had their azzes handed to them and had to retreat.

Haven't heard Putin moving troops have we?

Last time these two used live fire, China got embarrassed. This time around, the PLA would not be hampered by a technology disadvantage, would not be facing battle-hardened troops not long out of a major conflict, and would be much better organised than they were 35 years ago. Vietnam won't fare so well, if the PLA is given the order to roll.

Yes but they are well trained and have much better arms this time.

The PLA aren't exactly battle hardened either, though.

[Operator 1,927]

The PLA aren't exactly battle hardened either, though.

They do know how to clean up after an earthquake or a flood but not many 1000 yard stares in that bunch.

[luckytxn 2,265]

China has been rearing for a fight. I doubt they will invade to be honest. I think they are posturing. Hopefully.

that was my first thought, but there seems to be a huge exodus.

why the backlash?

1. disputed sea areas for fishing and oil and

2. chinese businessmen making money in vietnam, affecting a closed economic system in the same way it's done in 10 countries in Africa (at the moment), and taking the money OUT of Vietnam, OUT of that closed economic system.

[Pooky 3,844]

The PLA aren't exactly battle hardened either, though.

Maybe not, but their kit will be up-to-date, not 30 years out-of-date, all their troops will have assault weapons, not just the officers, and they will have a command structure that works. They will roll in numbers, not just a limited package they went with in 1979. And they will leverage the PLAAF and the Navy, instead of shackling them, as they did last time. Vietnam can't match that.