Political Geography terminology (split topic)

[Boiler 45,525]

Israel is the west now?

I am sure they have female attendants or nurses.

You have incomplete information.

Well Eurovision.

[Harpa Timsah 13,258]

Well Eurovision.

Yes, and an Israel basketball team just won the european championships.

Still not the west

[matlm 1]

Yes, and an Israel basketball team just won the european championships.

Still not the west

Actually it is (in the same way New Zealand and Australia are). If you like I'd be happy to link you to some academic literature on this matter. Edited May 19, 2014 by matlm

[Harpa Timsah 13,258]

Uh, no thanks.

Anyway, the doctor situation is all sorted and I am sure it is acceptable to all people.

[JohnR! 5,495]

Actually it is (in the same way New Zealand and Australia are). If you like I'd be happy to link you to some academic literature on this matter.

Politically speaking The West encompasses the Americas alone. In that sense, you are correct in that Israel is as much as part of The West as New Zealand and Australia.

[OnMyWayID 1,489]

Yes, and an Israel basketball team just won the european championships.

Still not the west

I've always thought of Israel as a Western Democratic Country..

[matlm 1]

I've always thought of Israel as a Western Democratic Country..

Definitely. There is so much to the terminology these days that it gets confusing. A Western democracy is the same thing as a liberal democracy. So India is a Western democracy because it is a liberal democracy. BUT a Western democracy is not the same thing as being a Western country. India is a Western democracy but not a Western country.

I would say Israel is both due to its being largely developed and governed by those from Western countries similar to Australia and New Zealand which are considered part of the West.

[JohnR! 5,495]

I've always thought of Israel as a Western Democratic Country..

You can say that Israel is a western-style democratic country, which is not the same as saying it is a western country. Western it is not.

[matlm 1]

You can say that Israel is a western-style democratic country, which is not the same as saying it is a western country. Western it is not.

Of course it is. First, the designation of what is and what is not part of the West is pretty much academically settled. As with all definitions, there is an arbitrary element to *how they are formed*, but once formed, they are solidified via convention. Second, on an intuitive level, why should Oceanic states be considered Western but not Israel? Because they are part of the Anglo-sphere?

[JohnR! 5,495]

Of course it is. First, the designation of what is and what is not part of the West is pretty much academically settled. As with all definitions, there is an arbitrary element to *how they are formed*, but once formed, they are solidified via convention. Second, on an intuitive level, why should Oceanic states be considered Western but not Israel? Because they are part of the Anglo-sphere?

That settles it then... (pun intended)

[matlm 1]

That settles it then... (pun intended)

HAHAHAHAH!!!! :devil: :devil:

[OnMyWayID 1,489]

You can say that Israel is a western-style democratic country, which is not the same as saying it is a western country. Western it is not.

Fair enough.. When I think "western" I am thinking of what you mean when you say "western-style" which would let us throw in Japan and North Korea...

[EmigratingSwede 16]

You consider North Korea, a totalitarian dictatorship to be 'western style'?

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

Of course it is. First, the designation of what is and what is not part of the West is pretty much academically settled. As with all definitions, there is an arbitrary element to *how they are formed*, but once formed, they are solidified via convention. Second, on an intuitive level, why should Oceanic states be considered Western but not Israel? Because they are part of the Anglo-sphere?

Because hemispheres matter.

[OnMyWayID 1,489]

You consider North Korea, a totalitarian dictatorship to be 'western style'?

no I was in a meeting and made a typo.. You can imagine how my part of the presentation in the meeting went.