US to Charge Chinese Officials in Hack Attack Thefts

[Harpa Timsah 13,258]

Now here is a topic from today, about something new.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/us-announce-hacking-charges-china/story?id=23774172

The United States government is set to file charges against government officials in China for allegedly hacking U.S. business interests, marking the first time ever that the U.S. government has formally accused another nation of using the Internet to break into U.S. businesses and gain unfair economic advantage, ABC News has learned.

The move carries enormous diplomatic implications, as the Justice Department and FBI are expected to announce charges today against several Chinese officials, according to sources. The charges will include economic espionage and theft of trade secrets.

The officials, five in total, are tied to the Chinese military, sources say. Charging documents will accuse them of, among other things, stealing information related to a nuclear power plant and information from a company that made solar panels.

U.S. intelligence officials have long believed that the Chinese government has been engaged in a state-sponsored campaign to hack U.S. interests and steal research and development. U.S. officials insist such efforts affect national security.

A formal announcement is expected this morning in Washington from U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder, the head of the Justice Department’s National Security Division, John Carlin, and others.

The charges will be filed in the Western District of Pennsylvania. It’s unclear why the U.S. government chose to file the charges in that district.

As soon as the charges are announced, the Chinese officials will officially become "wanted" men, but it’s unknown if they will ever be taken into custody.

[Jacque67 7,328]

About time!

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Now here is a topic from today, about something new.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/us-announce-hacking-charges-china/story?id=23774172

The United States government is set to file charges against government officials in China for allegedly hacking U.S. business interests, marking the first time ever that the U.S. government has formally accused another nation of using the Internet to break into U.S. businesses and gain unfair economic advantage, ABC News has learned.

The move carries enormous diplomatic implications, as the Justice Department and FBI are expected to announce charges today against several Chinese officials, according to sources. The charges will include economic espionage and theft of trade secrets.

The officials, five in total, are tied to the Chinese military, sources say. Charging documents will accuse them of, among other things, stealing information related to a nuclear power plant and information from a company that made solar panels.

U.S. intelligence officials have long believed that the Chinese government has been engaged in a state-sponsored campaign to hack U.S. interests and steal research and development. U.S. officials insist such efforts affect national security.

A formal announcement is expected this morning in Washington from U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder, the head of the Justice Department’s National Security Division, John Carlin, and others.

The charges will be filed in the Western District of Pennsylvania. It’s unclear why the U.S. government chose to file the charges in that district.

As soon as the charges are announced, the Chinese officials will officially become "wanted" men, but it’s unknown if they will ever be taken into custody.

I bet they are quaking in their boots.

[JohnR! 5,495]

I think there is little anyone can do about it but we have to start somewhere. Having said that I would very much like to know what type of cyber espionage the US is doing on China.
Welcome back to the cold war!

[Harpa Timsah 13,258]

Do you think VJ will shut down now?

[JohnR! 5,495]

Do you think VJ will shut down now?

I think VJ is infiltrated enough by Chinese spies... It will continue to thrive as a window into the decadent life of the west.

[Operator 1,927]

Somehow I have a feeling that it's not just the Chinese that are involved in this sort of activity. Seems like there was something in the news recently about the NSA hacking something?

These guys must have used a VPN because when I'm in China I can't even do a proper Google search.

[GandD 5,966]

Do you think VJ will shut down now?

Depends on what type of abbreviations are allowed to fly around here.

[mota bhai 2,675]

I think VJ is infiltrated enough by Chinese spies... It will continue to thrive as a window into the decadent life of the west.

This site is occupied territory, much like mainland China.

[Harpa Timsah 13,258]

Somehow I have a feeling that it's not just the Chinese that are involved in this sort of activity. Seems like there was something in the news recently about the NSA hacking something?

These guys must have used a VPN because when I'm in China I can't even do a proper Google search.

I don't know, is it exactly the same? Not that I am condoning spying on regular people, but...

I don't think the NSA is spying on Chinese nuclear plants using computer hacking, do you?

That is an issue of national security.

[JohnR! 5,495]

This site is occupied territory, much like mainland China.

I sure hope so. This is a private site.

[Operator 1,927]

I don't know, is it exactly the same? Not that I am condoning spying on regular people, but...

I don't think the NSA is spying on Chinese nuclear plants using computer hacking, do you?

That is an issue of national security.

It's not exactly the same for sure but the German people might think that tapping the Chancellor's cell phone is an issue to their national security.

I'm not siding with the Chinese at all, I'm just pointing out that we are not innocent. I would bet a substantial amount that we have done the same or worse many times.

[Harpa Timsah 13,258]

It's not exactly the same for sure but the German people might think that tapping the Chancellor's cell phone is an issue to their national security.

I'm not siding with the Chinese at all, I'm just pointing out that we are not innocent. I would bet a substantial amount that we have done the same or worse many times.

I know, I am just trying to think out loud about what the line is, why this is different, why this is worth pursuing and what they hope to get out of it.

The story behind the story.

[Operator 1,927]

I know, I am just trying to think out loud about what the line is, why this is different, why this is worth pursuing and what they hope to get out of it.

The story behind the story.

A quick look at the China Daily headlines won't show anything about this story. It might be a few days before you find something about it and it will tell a much different tale.

I'm not sure what the AG hopes to gain by it, maybe Holder is watching House of Cards on Netflix.

[JohnR! 5,495]

I know, I am just trying to think out loud about what the line is, why this is different, why this is worth pursuing and what they hope to get out of it.

The story behind the story.

IMHO this is one of those moves back from the cold war days when the Soviets would expel our diplomats and we theirs. I always thought of it as a valve letting off pressure and also an avenue by which to communicate to the other party that 'we know you know we know you know'...