How much evidence is enough for CR-1?

[Peace&Love 26]

Greetings all,

I would like to know how much evidence is good enough for CR-1?

Recently our K-1 was denied, I live in the US and my fiance lives in Cuba. I have visited him 3 times and we have a lot of evidence of relationship such us photos, emails (two or three times a week), phone calls and texts 5-10 times a day. We did provide all that for our K-1 but they didn't believe we have bona fide relationship.

Starting next month we will be traveling together for 3 months and will be getting married in a third country and some of my family will be attending at the wedding. When I come back from our travel in September I will be filing CR1. I'm a little bit confused about what to submit when apply for CR-1. Of course our marriage certificate, wedding photos and traveling together evidence such us flight booking so on.

Do I need to include email, text, phone calls for Cr-1? If so, I'm I submitting evidence after marriage or from the date we met? Do I need to write a letter addressing K-1 denial?

I really appreciate your input. Thank you all!

[Teripid 5]

From my understanding it is subjective and there's no hard list of requirements or what constitutes "good enough". With a denial I'd recommend piling it on but by the same token a CR-1 is typically more likely to be approved from what I've read. We just got approved for a CR-1 a few days back and included:

Wedding photos,
Pictures of my with her family and her with mine
A couple of chat logs from fairly recently
Letters we'd gotten addressed to both of us, specifically a wedding invite in the US for late June
Insurance and other items with one or the other listed as a beneficiary
A shared credit card statement
Tickets and trips we took along with a couple of paper souvenirs and admission slips to sights along with associated pictures.

Regarding your question, I think the content is more important than the quantity. That also means texts and emails would be more telling than phone logs or similar. Evidence is both before and after the marriage and info all from one side or the other might be a bit odd.

They'll have the denial on record so no reason to specifically mention that. The thing you do need to address is the reason for the denial which it sounds like you're doing. Seems odd to get a denial based on what you submitted unless there was a very short courtship or other major differences / discrepancies.

Best of luck!

[Peace&Love 26]

Thank you Teripid,

I do not think is possible for me to add him on my credit card or insurance. He never been in the US or have a SSN. Do I submit all the evidence at USCIS or when we have interview with the consulate?

[pushbrk 12,898]

Greetings all,

I would like to know how much evidence is good enough for CR-1?

Recently our K-1 was denied, I live in the US and my fiance lives in Cuba. I have visited him 3 times and we have a lot of evidence of relationship such us photos, emails (two or three times a week), phone calls and texts 5-10 times a day. We did provide all that for our K-1 but they didn't believe we have bona fide relationship.

Starting next month we will be traveling together for 3 months and will be getting married in a third country and some of my family will be attending at the wedding. When I come back from our travel in September I will be filing CR1. I'm a little bit confused about what to submit when apply for CR-1. Of course our marriage certificate, wedding photos and traveling together evidence such us flight booking so on.

Do I need to include email, text, phone calls for Cr-1? If so, I'm I submitting evidence after marriage or from the date we met? Do I need to write a letter addressing K-1 denial?

I really appreciate your input. Thank you all!

Along with what you already have, the three months together traveling along with the marriage and your family members attending, should put you over the top. Include evidence of all, including your family members' travel for the wedding.

It is not "subjective" but it is a "judgment call", meaning there is no goal line you can be sure you cross prior to the judgment call being made.

If you are older than the male foreigner, the bigger the age difference, the more evidence you'll need. Evidence of time spent together in person is far more important than any other evidence.

[Peace&Love 26]

Thank you for that information, we have about 5 months of age different not even a year . Due to the US embargo on Cuba traveling to Cuba as many times I want is not an option for me, but It is possible for people if they are Cuban origin. That is why I chose to travel with him freely in the third countries. I met my fiance in Cuba when I went legally to do research on Cuban music, he is a dancer, painter and community art organizer. Almost the same age and the same interest we both are involved in music and community art. The K-1 denial was a big disappointment, but we have moved on with our plane to get marry regardless. I just make sure I do not miss out what I have to submit when I file the CR-1.

Thank you all!

[pepper44 18]

Zetete-

does your fiancee speak english? Just curious because mine only know a little.

Anyways with what you are saying I think it will be more than enough when you file the CR-1. Receipts, photos, flight tickets, wedding photos, family and friends as well as chats, text and emails prior to the wedding (since you won't have any during the 3 months together)! :-)

You can always write a breif letter explaining how and when you met and your story..

As for the K-1 as someone else stated no reason to go into details because they will see it on their end.

Then realize they made a mistake!!

Godd luck!