Mom from Philippines Denied of a tourist visa

[Laser1 63]

It might help to present a lot of evidence of her raising your nephew. That sounds like her strongest tie to her home in the Philippines.

[Avery Cates 1,141]

Thank you all for your replies.I appreciate it very much.My mom came to the interview well prepared.She has all her paperworks-house and land title,bank account,letter stating she is the guardian of my nephew...etc.But the CO didn't even bother to check or look at her documents.My mom is already 66 yrs old and don't really have the intention to stay longer than 2months here in the U.S. Oh well,maybe visa issuance really depend on the hands of the CO.My husband and I already decided to let her try again a month from now.I'll let you all know if she gets a visa or not.Thank you.Thank you all.

Unfortunately too many people have done the ol' "immigrate to the US on a K-1 or CR-1, then have dear ol' mom 'visit' who never leave and work raising the children."

[Ning 619]

It might help to present a lot of evidence of her raising your nephew. That sounds like her strongest tie to her home in the Philippines.

There is no exact answer to this but the nephew will serve to show how the culture works for child care. The nephew would simply be passed along to another family member exactly like we see here.

Applying again soon or even later will result in the same denial unless she can prove beyond a doubt she MUST return. Having said that she can apply as many times as she wants; as frequently as she can afford.

[Torete 121]

Unfortunately too many people have done the ol' "immigrate to the US on a K-1 or CR-1, then have dear ol' mom 'visit' who never leave and work raising the children."

Wholeheartedly agree with you!

[Him and Her 1]

Hello everyone! My mom was interviewed at U.S Embassy-Manila for her application for a tourist visa 5/12/14 and was denied.I am an LPR and entered the U.S as a k1.We wanted her to visit us this summer since this is the best time for road trips and theme park visits.My question is:When can she apply again for a tourist visa?Is it ok if we let her apply again ASAP?(like next month).Thanks in advance for your answers.

Perhaps this is not what you want to read, but you MUST apply to become a US Citizen as soon as you qualify. You must be 5 years as a US Resident with not conviction or felonies and pay your taxes to Uncle Sam, then apply to be a US Citizen. I know is not what you want to read, but at least you have that option in 5 years, I mean you can petition your Mom , and she will get an immigrant(no tourist) visa in 6 months!

[Avery Cates 1,141]

Careful!!!

It's the god's truth.

[RhettVoe 282]

I did not make that up....if Filipinos had a better track record of compliance with the visa privilege, they would have the Visa Waiver Program...but they don't...why?....(see my previous posting)....their actions, those who have 'forgotten' to return, whose ties to the PI were largely in their imagination, who made promises to the COs by the carload, but yet, are still in the US....they are the ones that current visa applicants can blame for the difficulty obtaining tourist (and some other types) of visas....credibility from the PI has taken a hit....but that is NOT the fault of any CO....

[MacUK 983]

I did not make that up....if Filipinos had a better track record of compliance with the visa privilege, they would have the Visa Waiver Program...but they don't...why?....(see my previous posting)....their actions, those who have 'forgotten' to return, whose ties to the PI were largely in their imagination, who made promises to the COs by the carload, but yet, are still in the US....they are the ones that current visa applicants can blame for the difficulty obtaining tourist (and some other types) of visas....credibility from the PI has taken a hit....but that is NOT the fault of any CO....

Maybe for the sake of being huggy and politically correct you might say it's not just the Phillipines where this is a problem, but the citizens of lots of countries who have made the process difficult for their fellow countrymen/women

[RhettVoe 282]

true, but the OP is from the PI, as is her mother...so we are only referring to the problems associated with the Filipinos who have (no doubt) helped exacerbate this problem...yes, other developing countries' citizens have done the same, in similar or worse proportion...it's all part of the 'big picture'...but easily forgotten while unhappy relatives and friends blame the COs instead of putting 2 and 2 together...

[Torete 121]

Maybe for the sake of being huggy and politically correct you might say it's not just the Phillipines where this is a problem, but the citizens of lots of countries who have made the process difficult for their fellow countrymen/women

MacUK, (Addressing MacUK only) it seems the OP has left the thread stating she'll let us know if they're successful with the next application. I hope she does.

You've been a member since 2005 and if you follow the "Tourist Visas" forum, do you have any insight/opinion as to whether establishing a "travel history" and complying with other countries visa requirements traveling outside the Philippines has any impact or consideration with the CO? I've seen conflicting opinions/responses in many threads. I'm just curious what your take on that would be?

Regards.

[RhettVoe 282]

A travel history to countries requiring no visas is meaningless....a trip taken 3 months before a tourist visa application looks too convenient...bottom line: our laws regarding visa issuance are completely different than any other country's...

As far as the PI is concerned, well, look at the distance involved in a trip to the US compared to going to Hong Kong or Singapore...there is the cost of course, and because of the distances involved and the time needed for travel, people are likely to wish to remain for more than a couple of days...all very understandable...but...many other countries impose severe penalties upon those who work illegally whereas the US takes a rather wimpy approach....thus, people are often motivated to engage in unlawful employment while being a 'tourist'....something that more than a few Filipinos have done upon arrival in the US...

It really comes down to credibility...not papers....not promises...and with a background of persistent abuse of the visa privilege by others from the same country, it only makes it harder to sort out the bona fide travelers from the mala fide ones.

[MacUK 983]

MacUK, (Addressing MacUK only) it seems the OP has left the thread stating she'll let us know if they're successful with the next application. I hope she does.

You've been a member since 2005 and if you follow the "Tourist Visas" forum, do you have any insight/opinion as to whether establishing a "travel history" and complying with other countries visa requirements traveling outside the Philippines has any impact or consideration with the CO? I've seen conflicting opinions/responses in many threads. I'm just curious what your take on that would be?

Regards.

So far I've been denied a tourist visa three times, I hardly think I'm an expert on how to get approved!

[Torete 121]

So far I've been denied a tourist visa three times, I hardly think I'm an expert on how to get approved!

Ok, thanks all the same. I wasn't aware of your denial X3.

I wasn't expecting input on how to get approved, simply that considering the length of time you've been a member, that perhaps you had some personal experience with the "travel history" I mentioned. I was only curious if the issue of establishing a "travel history" had impacted you in any form or manner or what your thoughts on its viability were.

Thank you for taking the time to respond. (Zero sarcasm intended) Cheers.

[MacUK 983]

Not on the thread topic but most international travel I've done has been within Europe where there is freedom of movement so no visas required.

I've no idea how it might have positively or negatively impacted my B2 applications.

I'd love to be able to blame something as simple as that for my denials.

Unfortunately though, my denials were simply due to my inability to prove to a complete stranger that I have no intention of leaving this country I love.

[Torete 121]

Not on the thread topic but most international travel I've done has been within Europe where there is freedom of movement so no visas required.

I've no idea how it might have positively or negatively impacted my B2 applications.

I'd love to be able to blame something as simple as that for my denials.

Unfortunately though, my denials were simply due to my inability to prove to a complete stranger that I have no intention of leaving this country I love.

my inability to prove to a complete stranger that I have no intention of leaving this country I love.

Thank you for your response; I understand better now. Your last sentence is most applicable to my family so perhaps they'll be able to do so the second go around.

Regards.