After Forming Deep Roots in U.S., Man Discovers He Isn’t a Citizen

[Janelle2002 3,865]

I don't think anyone is arguing he is eligible

He just never filled out the Korrect paperwork

[Dakine10 5,452]

He was permanently paroled into the USA at entry and given an unrestricted SSN.

Cubans who reach US soil under the current policy are here legally and PERMANENTLY. They are authorized to work. They are eligble to adjust status after 1 year. They don't have to ajust status to remain legal.

His legal status in the US is not in question. USCIS rejected his recent citizenship request because he is not a LPR. They told him to file for a green card first. His attorneys position is his parole document and wartime military service qualify him for citizenship without being a LPR. The attorney's is correct. The appeal should result in his citizenship being granted.

[SMR 368]

He was permanently paroled into the USA at entry and given an unrestricted SSN.

Cubans who reach US soil under the current policy are here legally and PERMANENTLY. They are authorized to work. They are eligble to adjust status after 1 year. They don't have to ajust status to remain legal.

His legal status in the US is not in question. USCIS rejected his recent citizenship request because he is not a LPR. They told him to file for a green card first. His attorneys position is his parole document and wartime military service qualify him for citizenship without being a LPR. The attorney's is correct. The appeal should result in his citizenship being granted.

All of that makes sense. But it still doesn't explain how he went 17 years thinking he was a citizen. That's the part of this story that sounds like he pulled something from where the sun doesn't shine.

Edited May 15, 2014 by SMR

[Dakine10 5,452]

I agree. Most people are diligent about keeping track of that naturalization document. To never follow up seems unusual.

At the same time, there is no reason to lie about it. If he didn't naturalize during his military service, he was still eligible for citizenship based on that at any time afterwards. Unless he did something that made him inadmissible.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

He was permanently paroled into the USA at entry and given an unrestricted SSN.

Cubans who reach US soil under the current policy are here legally and PERMANENTLY. They are authorized to work. They are eligble to adjust status after 1 year. They don't have to ajust status to remain legal.

His legal status in the US is not in question. USCIS rejected his recent citizenship request because he is not a LPR. They told him to file for a green card first. His attorneys position is his parole document and wartime military service qualify him for citizenship without being a LPR. The attorney's is correct. The appeal should result in his citizenship being granted.

So you admit he was not currently in legal status, which makes him on 3 ILLEGAL Alien

No one argued he was eligible. Kind of like driving without a licencee even though you could get one

[Dakine10 5,452]

So you admit he was not currently in legal status, which makes him on 3 ILLEGAL Alien

No one argued he was eligible. Kind of like driving without a licencee even though you could get one

I said his legal status is not in question.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

I said his legal status is not in question.

He is absolutely without a question an alien in illegal status .

Edited May 16, 2014 by The Nature Boy

[Morningmist 76]

As a non citizen, how was he able to vote? I thought only citizens could vote? I'm not naive, I'm just confused.

[Dakine10 5,452]

As a non citizen, how was he able to vote? I thought only citizens could vote? I'm not naive, I'm just confused.

He was not legally able to vote. He will likely face legal consequences for this part, although unlike most foreign nationals, he will not face deportation.

If he can prove he naturalized during his military service he will be OK. He could also be determined inadmissible for claiming to be a USC although if he actually believed he was a USC, he does meet the one set of circumstances that can overcome that.

It also matters how much of what he has done happened before 1996 and how much happened after. Immigration law changed significantly on that date.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

As a non citizen, how was he able to vote? I thought only citizens could vote? I'm not naive, I'm just confused.

What an Illegal voted ...NOOOOOOOOOO Impossible no such thing could not happen

No to voter ID it disenfranchises people who should not vote

[Dakine10 5,452]

He is absolutely without a question an alien in illegal status .

That would happen only if his refugee status was revoked. What makes you think that happened?

[Morningmist 76]

He was not legally able to vote. He will likely face legal consequences for this part, although unlike most foreign nationals, he will not face deportation.

If he can prove he naturalized during his military service he will be OK. He could also be determined inadmissible for claiming to be a USC although if he actually believed he was a USC, he does meet the one set of circumstances that can overcome that.

It also matters how much of what he has done happened before 1996 and how much happened after. Immigration law changed significantly on that date.

So he committed voter fraud. So voter fraud does happen. I read that voter fraud hardly happens but I also read on here how some LPRs "mistakenly" registered to vote. It doesn't seem like its that hard to commit fraud if you are illegally here or even legally. So why is there such a push back on voter ids?

[mota bhai 2,675]

So why is there such a push back on voter ids?

Because it costs money to get one and black people have less money left over after they've bought their iPhones and this country has a history of using a 'poll tax' to dissuade black people from voting.

[Harpa Timsah 13,258]

IDs don't have citizenship status on them, except passports. And no one is required to get a passport.

Edited May 16, 2014 by Harpa Timsah

[mota bhai 2,675]

And, presumably, a national voter ID, if such a thing was allowed to exist.