Will I be automatically denied?

[Boiler 45,856]

*checks google maps*

He’s right!

Yeahhh

[Caryh 5,206]

Okay let me correct that statement with this statement: "The K-1 Co-Sponsor denial ratio in Manila is CLOSER to 99/1 than it is to 50/50." Is that better? (Please note in the first statement I said "closer to 99 to 1") You are correct. I am just going by what I have been reading over the past year and a half and it appears that way more often than not co-sponsors are not allowed there than they are. And I think in this particular case, all things considered they don't stand a chance in hades. But that's really just one mans opinion I guess. Have a nice day and Aloha.

The embassy has the responsibility to determine if the K-1 beneficiary will become a public charge or not. Technically the Manila embassy doesn't even require the I-134, and they've directly stated this in public question and answer sessions in the past. You will never see a denial where they state they've rejected a co-sponsor, because technically there is no such thing for a K-1, as the I-134 and I-134A are not legally binding documents. They are handy forms which the information on income and assets can be put in one place making the consuls job of determining likelihood of becoming a public charge determination easier. True sponsorship doesn't come into play until the AOS is filed with the I-864. If there is strong family backing, a good chance the immigrant themselves can contribute, good chance of increasing income, and likelihood the I-485 will be approved, then they will approve the K-1 visa even if the income is below the threshold. They've also stated this in public question and answer sessions. If they see there's a good chance the AOS will be denied, they will deny the visa.

If you're seeing a high percentage of denied petitions on the public charge issue, its because the petitioner and beneficiary have made a poor case they can keep the beneficiary from becoming a public charge. In the past year or so, I've seen a growth in the idea that needing a co-sponsor for a K-1 in Manila is destined for a denial. Its been like watching an urban myth grow, where people have repeated it enough, that now people just repeat it with no evidence to back it up. Properly prepared, with the right co-sponsor, and a immigrant with an education, will get an approval out of the embassy. Someone with a permanent disability, well below the poverty level, and an uneducated immigrant, have little chance of getting an approval. Which cases have you been looking at? I'm assuming the latter, as the denials are the ones that get all the attention, and approvals are more likely a quick congrats post, with no attention given to fact income was below 125% the poverty level.

[David & Diana R 1,005]

The embassy has the responsibility to determine if the K-1 beneficiary will become a public charge or not. Technically the Manila embassy doesn't even require the I-134, and they've directly stated this in public question and answer sessions in the past. You will never see a denial where they state they've rejected a co-sponsor, because technically there is no such thing for a K-1, as the I-134 and I-134A are not legally binding documents. They are handy forms which the information on income and assets can be put in one place making the consuls job of determining likelihood of becoming a public charge determination easier. True sponsorship doesn't come into play until the AOS is filed with the I-864. If there is strong family backing, a good chance the immigrant themselves can contribute, good chance of increasing income, and likelihood the I-485 will be approved, then they will approve the K-1 visa even if the income is below the threshold. They've also stated this in public question and answer sessions. If they see there's a good chance the AOS will be denied, they will deny the visa.

If you're seeing a high percentage of denied petitions on the public charge issue, its because the petitioner and beneficiary have made a poor case they can keep the beneficiary from becoming a public charge. In the past year or so, I've seen a growth in the idea that needing a co-sponsor for a K-1 in Manila is destined for a denial. Its been like watching an urban myth grow, where people have repeated it enough, that now people just repeat it with no evidence to back it up. Properly prepared, with the right co-sponsor, and a immigrant with an education, will get an approval out of the embassy. Someone with a permanent disability, well below the poverty level, and an uneducated immigrant, have little chance of getting an approval. Which cases have you been looking at? I'm assuming the latter, as the denials are the ones that get all the attention, and approvals are more likely a quick congrats post, with no attention given to fact income was below 125% the poverty level.

So I guess we will have to agree to disagree. You can argue all you want but I will not waste any more time. A CR-1 is a much safer option in this particular instance. I'm out now. Aloha

[Boiler 45,856]

I have seen quite a few successful co sponsor for Manila, but none in similar circumstances.

[Caryh 5,206]

So I guess we will have to agree to disagree. You can argue all you want but I will not waste any more time. A CR-1 is a much safer option in this particular instance. I'm out now. Aloha

You'll get no argument from me on this guy's case. Its just the recent automatic answer of Manila does not accept cosponsors for K-1s attitude has gotten outside the reality of the situation.

[Mamba24 0]

Thank you everyone for your help, things seem a bit more clear now, CR-1 is the route to take for me. Has the Manila consulate always been this strict? I'm not about to take a low percentage chance given my case. Thanks everyone for the input.

[Mamba24 0]

Up for more input

[Caryh 5,206]

Thank you everyone for your help, things seem a bit more clear now, CR-1 is the route to take for me. Has the Manila consulate always been this strict? I'm not about to take a low percentage chance given my case. Thanks everyone for the input.

The Manila embassy is actually very lenient. Its your situation that is in conflict with the requirements of bringing someone into the country on a K-1. There are significantly much more difficult embassies.

[David & Diana R 1,005]

Up for more input

How much more input do you need? I mean seriously? In your situation you have gotten all the input you need. Good luck and God Bless.

[Mamba24 0]

How much more input do you need? I mean seriously? In your situation you have gotten all the input you need. Good luck and God Bless.

Well aren't you a feisty one, thanks either way.