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I hope those you reference will take bait coz...I have no clue who would make the list.

They won't because once they see Sharia law, it's complete shut down mode. Let me show you how to spin it:

Despite national outcry, Virginia became the first state to adopt a new conservative law on Wednesday. The announcement was made during a ceremony by the Mayor, Joseph Crow, who leads the rich city in the Hamptons. . The new criminal law will include punishments like flogging, dismemberment, and stoning for crimes including adultery, rape, and sodomy. The new law will affect both Americans and Illegals in the county of 2,000 people.

See? I changed some key words and viola, a conservative paradise.

As for the Usual Suspects? It's too easy to know who'd be on the list. At least 3 people in this thread fit the description perfectly.

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They won't because once they see Sharia law, it's complete shut down mode. Let me show you how to spin it:

Despite national outcry, Virginia became the first state to adopt a new conservative law on Wednesday. The announcement was made during a ceremony by the Mayor, Joseph Crow, who leads the rich city in the Hamptons. . The new criminal law will include punishments like flogging, dismemberment, and stoning for crimes including adultery, rape, and sodomy. The new law will affect both Americans and Illegals in the county of 2,000 people.

See? I changed some key words and viola, a conservative paradise.

As for the Usual Suspects? It's too easy to know who'd be on the list. At least 3 people in this thread fit the description perfectly.

That is too true.

 

 

 

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Marvin just likes the word flogging.

Already got inlaws in Brunei. I'm going home! :dancing:

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I think the point is this:

If you're going to post to a discussion forum, expect some discussion to take place. The OP didn't post this to discuss. It was to bash muslims. Period. This the 4th time he's done this, because this is the 4th time I've debunked his silly claim that muslims remained silent on the subject. This thread is on page 7, and not a peep. No, my bad or sorry about my mistake. There's no learning to be had here, their minds were made up a long time ago. And as your sig suggests, even with a mountain of proof, they still won't believe it.

My religion, my race, and even my character is questioned here daily. Some of these threads are started because of me. Yet, I will always be willing to engage anyone in an intelligent debate. Even though those same people wouldn't afford me the same courtesy.

I was not responding to the original poster nor do i care about his/her politics. I responded directly to something you said and gave you my thoughts on religion in general and Islam specifically. You responded by telling me that as soon as every problem in the US was fixed you would feel obliged to take up Muslim issues.. I can promise you if the topic is about a specific US issue I will not flip it into a religious or some other base issue.

What was here when I returned was four more pages of people making themselves feel good about themselves by demeaning those whom the disagree.. Saying things like they only have foreign spouses because they want to subjugate women and are to socially retarded to accomplish that in this country, etc, etc... A fairly pathetic thing to say if you are wanting an intelligent debate.

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I was not responding to the original poster nor do i care about his/her politics. I responded directly to something you said and gave you my thoughts on religion in general and Islam specifically. You responded by telling me that as soon as every problem in the US was fixed you would feel obliged to take up Muslim issues.. I can promise you if the topic is about a specific US issue I will not flip it into a religious or some other base issue.

What was here when I returned was four more pages of people making themselves feel good about themselves by demeaning those whom the disagree.. Saying things like they only have foreign spouses because they want to subjugate women and are to socially retarded to accomplish that in this country, etc, etc... A fairly pathetic thing to say if you are wanting an intelligent debate.

I don't believe it was demeaning pointing out that which is obvious. You are shooting the shoemaker, imho.

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You know what the sad thing is? If you take out Islam and sell this as a regular story, some of the conservatives here would be on board for this type of existence.

More baseless BS - nobody here thinks this is OK under any circumstances and those that agreed with you should know better.. I'm a bit sad at seeing who, not the usual non-thinkers.

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I was not responding to the original poster nor do i care about his/her politics. I responded directly to something you said and gave you my thoughts on religion in general and Islam specifically. You responded by telling me that as soon as every problem in the US was fixed you would feel obliged to take up Muslim issues.. I can promise you if the topic is about a specific US issue I will not flip it into a religious or some other base issue.

What was here when I returned was four more pages of people making themselves feel good about themselves by demeaning those whom the disagree.. Saying things like they only have foreign spouses because they want to subjugate women and are to socially retarded to accomplish that in this country, etc, etc... A fairly pathetic thing to say if you are wanting an intelligent debate.

If the OP wanted to have an intelligent debate, he could have left out the comment about Muslims. But, the entire point was to inflame Islam. This thread was created twice. The first time, Islam's involvement was highlighted in red. To make sure you knew who to blame. And this is common for those posters. It's never, let's talk about it so we can reach some sort of mutual view. It's I hate you and your kind. And they want to make sure you're fully aware of it. How can you debate something when the definitive answer is already put out in the first post?

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What was here when I returned was four more pages of people making themselves feel good about themselves by demeaning those whom the disagree.. Saying things like they only have foreign spouses because they want to subjugate women and are to socially retarded to accomplish that in this country, etc, etc... A fairly pathetic thing to say if you are wanting an intelligent debate.

Who said anything about feeling good? Fact is some men chose their wives from other cultures in order to control them. This is a cowardly act and deserved of reproach. Pointing it out does not make me feel good in the least bit.

Take a step down from your pulpit.

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More baseless BS - nobody here thinks this is OK under any circumstances and those that agreed with you should know better.. I'm a bit sad at seeing who, not the usual non-thinkers.

Where have you been? I've seen comments that rejoice in killing people for any and all slights. Breaking into someone home and you get blown away? It's all cool. The tragedy that was M370? My favorite was, let's start water boarding the officials. The execution that went wrong? Let's go back to public hanging. One said, rack em and stack em. In fact, G actually said, just admit it, you want to kill and torture people.

Face it, some of the conservatives here that hate Sharia law, have no problem with it if it's called something else.

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"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

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Although the NB hates it, part of any political discussion must set an all things being equal tone before an opinion can be considered. How can I take someone serious about a subject like this when they would advocate a nearly identical religion be the law of the land here? Like Christianity could not be perverted into this type of filth. Is the root cause to what's happening in Nigeria the teachings of Muhammad or the folks that use it to further their power? From my perspective, lawlessness due to many many many factors including the continual destabilization of the African continent by the major powers of the world, a particularly unsuitable and harsh climate for humans to develop self sustaining societies, ignorance/hate/poverty/squalor exploited by those that seek to control obedience and inspire hope through religious doctrine and hate. Organization or armies in many cases needs nothing more than a common enemy for which all strife can be blamed. In this case, a person has used Islam as a rally cry against Christians.

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Although the NB hates it, part of any political discussion must set an all things being equal tone before an opinion can be considered. How can I take someone serious about a subject like this when they would advocate a nearly identical religion be the law of the land here? Like Christianity could not be perverted into this type of filth. Is the root cause to what's happening in Nigeria the teachings of Muhammad or the folks that use it to further their power? From my perspective, lawlessness due to many many many factors including the continual destabilization of the African continent by the major powers of the world, a particularly unsuitable and harsh climate for humans to develop self sustaining societies, ignorance/hate/poverty/squalor exploited by those that seek to control obedience and inspire hope through religious doctrine and hate. Organization or armies in many cases needs nothing more than a common enemy for which all strife can be blamed. In this case, a person has used Islam as a rally cry against Christians.

What is beyond comprehension is that Islam and Christianity worship the one and same god or Abraham. You can't indict one without indicting the other, which makes the debate all the more ludicrous.

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What was here when I returned was four more pages of people making themselves feel good about themselves by demeaning those whom the disagree.. Saying things like they only have foreign spouses because they want to subjugate women and are to socially retarded to accomplish that in this country, etc, etc... A fairly pathetic thing to say if you are wanting an intelligent debate.

I have seen marriages between American men and Filipinas that were near perfect marriages - I met one of them here on VJ. But I have also seen marriages where the American man treated his wife like property; but, of course, only when she arrived in the US. Obviously, not every man wants to control his wife, but it isn't honest to pretend that there are men like that out there.

If there is to be intelligent debate then we have to acknowledge both types of marriages.

 

 

 

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Where have you been? I've seen comments that rejoice in killing people for any and all slights. Breaking into someone home and you get blown away? It's all cool. The tragedy that was M370? My favorite was, let's start water boarding the officials. The execution that went wrong? Let's go back to public hanging. One said, rack em and stack em. In fact, G actually said, just admit it, you want to kill and torture people.

Face it, some of the conservatives here that hate Sharia law, have no problem with it if it's called something else.

And I had not thought of that until you pointed it out earlier. There are people who were happy about the botched execution in OK. People who celebrated the killing of the thug TM. ( I agreed with the verdict but was not happy about his death ).

Ask people what they think should be done to rapists and child molesters. Those who want the most violent punishment tend to be those who have issues with the barbaric punishment you described earlier.

ETA: I'm not pointing fingers because, I'm not proud of this, but I tend to want the most despicable things to happen to child molesters.

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And I had not thought of that until you pointed it out earlier. There are people who were happy about the botched execution in OK. People who celebrated the killing of the thug TM. ( I agreed with the verdict but was not happy about his death ).

Ask people what they think should be done to rapists and child molesters. Those who want the most violent punishment tend to be those who have issues with the barbaric punishment you described earlier.

ETA: I'm not pointing fingers because, I'm not proud of this, but I tend to want the most despicable things to happen to child molesters.

I feel the same way with those type of perps.

And you're right about TM. The kids that used guns to mow down men, women and children were treated better than that he was.

Folks are scared of Muslims? I'd be terrified of the comments I see here on a daily basis. Hell, I've been told point blank if I walked in the vicinity of some members here, they'd pull a gun and point it in my face.

“Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.” – Coretta Scott King

"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

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