Do I need a police certificate for...?

[Ryan H 3,812]

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Edited May 9, 2014 by Ryan H

[pushbrk 12,892]

HAHAHA, maybe you should take your own advice, i never says the i130 or DS260 SAYS anything about the police check, but where do you think they get the info to decide if you need one? Do they guess

Wrong again. This is what you wrote, among a number of other wrong things. FYI, USCIS has nothing to do with police reports obtained by the applicant, and never deals with them in any way.

You wrote, "My advice would be to get as many Police checks as corresponds to what your i130, and eventually the DS261, will state. If you get a checklist, at least you will have them."

Your I-130 and your DS261 never state anything about police checks or police reports. NEVER. Instructions about them come from the links I gave above. So, no, they don't guess. They read the actual instructions.

What "hurts" people here is not straight talk, but rather bad information that causes errors and delays.

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[Eastyo 100]

Wrong again. This is what you wrote, among a number of other wrong things. FYI, USCIS has nothing to do with police reports obtained by the applicant, and never deals with them in any way.

You wrote, "My advice would be to get as many Police checks as corresponds to what your i130, and eventually the DS261, will state. If you get a checklist, at least you will have them."

Your I-130 and your DS261 never state anything about police checks or police reports. NEVER. Instructions about them come from the links I gave above. So, no, they don't guess. They read the actual instructions.

What "hurts" people here is not straight talk, but rather bad information that causes errors and delays.

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OMG you are simply amazing, you have brightened up my day with your attitude!

How do you think the NVC know you need a police check huh? Yep, from the address you put in the DS261.... if you didn't put these address they don't know you need one..... Do you think they just guess? . if the OP in the main post has put she lived in Thailand for over 6/12 months, then YES she sill need a police check (which is what she was asking) as the NVC will see, oh this person lived in Thailand - the fact she is on a visitor visa means zip! So yes, there is a correlation between what you put on the forms and what the NVC will ask for - my word it is lie explaining to a child.

So from now on will you please just be polite to people on this forum, many members have complained about your attitude and what you post, all are trying to help. Yes all will not be right, but we can't all be as well educated at you now can we

[Eastyo 100]

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I notice that you allow a lot of posts from certain individuals to remain, even though they are quite personal and derogatory in tone... why is this?

[mai95 4]

I would say Thailand would be a toss up, yes you were not technically a resident, but you used it on your I-130 so they MAY want to see it, it does not appear that you need a resident ID to get a Thailand PCC.
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Police Records

Available. Police certificates are obtainable from:

Section 3, Sub-Division 2. General Staff Division
Special Branch
Royal Thai Police Department
Rama I Road
Pathumwan, Bangkok 10330

Residents of Thailand requesting a Thai police certificate will need to present two recent photographs (2 inch x 2 inch), the original and a copy of his/her passport, identification card, household registration, name change certificate (if any), marriage and divorce certificate (if any). Thai males aged 17-45 must also present military record or proof of exemption from military service.

Non-residents should send their requests to the Royal Thai Police Department at the above address with the required documents and a fingerprint taken by a police authority at their place of residence.

Normal processing time is two to three weeks. There is no processing fee"

[mai95 4]

about the issue of 12 or 6 months it is pretty clear at the US state Dept, when it is needed.

IF you…

AND…

have been living in your country of nationality at their current residence for more than 6 months

you are 16 years old or older

lived in a different part of your country of nationality for more than 6 months

you were 16 years or older at that time

lived in a different country for more than 12 months

you were 16 years or older at that time

were arrested for any reason

you were any age at the time of the arrest

http://travel.state.gov/content/visas/english/immigrate/immigrant-process/documents/submit/documents-to-submit-to-nvc.html#police

[Eastyo 100]

I would say Thailand would be a toss up, yes you were not technically a resident, but you used it on your I-130 so they MAY want to see it, it does not appear that you need a resident ID to get a Thailand PCC.

"

Police Records

Available. Police certificates are obtainable from:

Section 3, Sub-Division 2. General Staff Division

Special Branch

Royal Thai Police Department

Rama I Road

Pathumwan, Bangkok 10330

Residents of Thailand requesting a Thai police certificate will need to present two recent photographs (2 inch x 2 inch), the original and a copy of his/her passport, identification card, household registration, name change certificate (if any), marriage and divorce certificate (if any). Thai males aged 17-45 must also present military record or proof of exemption from military service.

Non-residents should send their requests to the Royal Thai Police Department at the above address with the required documents and a fingerprint taken by a police authority at their place of residence.

Normal processing time is two to three weeks. There is no processing fee"

This is what i was also trying to say, if you told them you live there, they will probably ask for it as they have no idea you were a actually a "tourist". As i said before, and as there is not charge, why don't you go ahead and get one anyway? Incase they ask...

about the issue of 12 or 6 months it is pretty clear at the US state Dept, when it is needed.

IF you…

AND…

have been living in your country of nationality at their current residence for more than 6 months

you are 16 years old or older

lived in a different part of your country of nationality for more than 6 months

you were 16 years or older at that time

lived in a different country for more than 12 months

you were 16 years or older at that time

were arrested for any reason

you were any age at the time of the arrest

http://travel.state.gov/content/visas/english/immigrate/immigrant-process/documents/submit/documents-to-submit-to-nvc.html#police

So less than 12 months, no need...... Thanks

[pushbrk 12,892]

OMG you are simply amazing, you have brightened up my day with your attitude!

How do you think the NVC know you need a police check huh? Yep, from the address you put in the DS261.... if you didn't put these address they don't know you need one..... Do you think they just guess? . if the OP in the main post has put she lived in Thailand for over 6/12 months, then YES she sill need a police check (which is what she was asking) as the NVC will see, oh this person lived in Thailand - the fact she is on a visitor visa means zip! So yes, there is a correlation between what you put on the forms and what the NVC will ask for - my word it is lie explaining to a child.

So from now on will you please just be polite to people on this forum, many members have complained about your attitude and what you post, all are trying to help. Yes all will not be right, but we can't all be as well educated at you now can we

The DS261 is an agent of choice form. I think you mean the DS260, which is a visas application containing addresses at least back to age 16. If by "they" you are referring to NVC, (not once did you refer to NVC before using the pronoun "they") then yes, the information the applicant enters into the DS260 does indicate which police reports will be needed. VJ is not here to help NVC. We're here to help the members involved in immigration processes. Members do not obtain information about police reports from ANY government form used in the process.

[Eastyo 100]

The DS261 is an agent of choice form. I think you mean the DS260, which is a visas application containing addresses at least back to age 16. If by "they" you are referring to NVC, (not once did you refer to NVC before using the pronoun "they") then yes, the information the applicant enters into the DS260 does indicate which police reports will be needed. VJ is not here to help NVC. We're here to help the members involved in immigration processes. Members do not obtain information about police reports from ANY government form used in the process.

Thanks we are over it now, just please curb your attitude/tone towards people if you can.... if you can't then thats to bad.

[pushbrk 12,892]

This is what i was also trying to say, if you told them you live there, they will probably ask for it as they have no idea you were a actually a "tourist". As i said before, and as there is not charge, why don't you go ahead and get one anyway? Incase they ask...

So less than 12 months, no need...... Thanks

Because, IN this process, one needs to learn the difference between "residing" and "visiting" and apply that knowledge. In many countries, you cannot obtain a police certificate unless you had authorization to "reside" in the country. No certificate is available for visitors, and none is NEEDED for the US immigration process.

[pushbrk 12,892]

It depends on a few factors, firstly you need to see if one is required. Sub 12 months I think not (but check). If your main residence was still the UK, and your post/tax etc was still there, then no. However, if you put on the DS261 you "lived" in Greece, then they will assume you "lived" there, and if over their specified time frame, then yes, you will require one. I wouldn't even mention it in your address history for the NVC

Were you paying council/income tax in the UK? Officially under UK rules, you are still a resident if you have not completed one complete tax year outside the UK.... so i would say you were still residing (living) in the UK.

Reading the instructions linked above and applying the visitor/residence knowledge will provide the answer. However, one can be a resident of more than one country at the same time. For instance, I have a Canadian friend who has a US green card and lives about half the year in each country. While she must maintain permanent resident STATUS in the USA to keep her green card, that does not mean she is not a "resident" of Canada for the 5 months she "lives" in her long time home in Canada.

In contrast to that, my wife and I own a home in China and I am a registered resident of a different home in China (name in the home book) for the purpose of maintaining a China driver license, but have never had more than a visitor visa for China. As such, I have never "resided" in China, because I have never had a visa authorizing me to reside there.

Some of this stuff is just not as simple as some make it out to be.

[pushbrk 12,892]

Once you get the the NVC you will need to do the i130 again lol (well it seems like it), its called the DS261 (or 260 i forget). Basically if under 12 months, don't worry.... but if you put on this form that you lived somewhere for over 12 months, they will ask for the PCC as they will assume you "lived" there

"They" (NVC or a Consular Officer) will not assume anything. If you SAY on a form, that you "lived" somewhere, they don't assume. They take your word for it. That's why it's so important to understand the difference between visiting and residing BEFORE you enter information on forms.

No, you do not do the I-130 again at NVC. The DS260 will ask for quite a bit of the same information required on the I-130 about the foreigner but very little about the petitioner. The DS260 goes much further though and asks far more than any form submitted with the petition package did. Note that it is the G325a forms that really ask for the most information in the petition filing process, not the I-130.

When a person doesn't understand the process well enough to even know which forms do what and when, usually their posts do not help people. Instead, their posts require others to correct the misinformation in order to keep from hurting those needing help. Please consider learning more before posting such misleading information as you have in this topic. It will be appreciated by many.

[Ryan H 3,812]

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