Exactly how honest to be?

[garya505 2]

I'd be inclined to "forget" to put in on the form and just list her previous employment. More than likely there are some women doing "extras' there and the local officials know it.

I recently talked a friend into quitting her job at a kaoroke bar for a similar reason. Even though she was not "dating" customers, some of the women there do that, and any guys she met would know that, as well as the consular officers.

[goontar 0]

Right. Don't list it unless they would know that she worked there. That is very unlikely unless she was recieving a paycheck and paying taxes. Which I don't think they do in Thailand. If its a cash job then I would not list it.

[garya505 2]

I looked for info about Akane on the web. If I found the right place, from what I saw I really think you should NOT list it as a job. I think this would raise serious questions.

A normal visit might look something like this:

Enter Akane Massage, choose your girls, let her (or them) lead you to your room. When choosing the Fashion Massage courses, all masseuses will wear sexy see-through lingerie. You will lie down on a special "massage bed". You know the ones with a hole cut at the head for face down massage servicing. Before though, you will be bathed by your lady. This will include thorough cleaning of ALL your body parts. A Japanese style massage also always seems to include a good butt massage.

Now finally, the massage can begin. The PePe cream lotion doesn’t have any smell but makes the whole process very, very slippery. As said before, there is no full service but the special handand lips service is more than some people can take:).

Akane Original Lotion Massage Course

Using Pepe lotion which made by see weeds, prices include special hand service

for all of courses. No, 2 and 3 courses include prostate, testicles massages

Fashion Massage Course „

Sexual massage with See through wear, Lip service( by using condom)

We do not provide intercourse and service by with out condom by negotiation.

Please understand and enjoy our relief service.

Lotion Massage

Starting with a shower in the company of one of our girls and follower by a Pe Pe Lotion wrap, the traditional Pe Pe Lotion is made from sea weeds and is used in Japan for relaxing tension and massage. No part of your body will be left out and you will be relief from the tension built by the experience wit the special hand service provided by the hostess.

Akane - Our Girls

[misa 2]

I'm pretty sure that blowjobs and handjobs for money are still considered prostitution in the eyes the US Government which would make her technically ineligible for a visa.

Better contact that lawyer.

[garya505 2]

I'm pretty sure that blowjobs and handjobs for money are still considered prostitution in the eyes the US Government which would make her technically ineligible for a visa.

Better contact that lawyer.

If it's true that blowjobs and handjobs for money is considered prostitution, then the OP clearly CAN'T list this job.

[misa 2]

It's prostitution here so I'm pretty sure it's prostitution in the U.S. (except Nevada).

Anyhoo...

http://asialaw.tripod.com/articles/waiver3.html

SUSPICION OF PROSTITUTION AS GROUNDS IN THAILAND:

In Thailand, where some women work in entertainment establishments such as go-go and hostess bars, there are concerns that this employment may be connected to prostitution and therefore establish grounds for inadmissibility. If the BCIS determines that the woman was actually involved in prostitution, this may result in grounds for inadmissibility. However, an application for a waiver can still be applied for.

If the BCIS independently discovers employment that could be deemed as prostitution they will interrogate the individual in order to confirm or deny such employment. If a visa application failed to list such employment (whether directly involved in prostitution or otherwise) this could result in additional investigation which may complicate the future waiver process.

In the event that there is a criminal record of prostitution occurring within the past 10 years, it may be advisable to submit the waiver application subsequent with the visa application.

The BCIS Bangkok Office will not provide any advisory opinions as to the likelihood of an application being accepted or rejected; applications and individuals are considered on a case by case basis.

[goontar 0]

I'm pretty sure that blowjobs and handjobs for money are still considered prostitution in the eyes the US Government which would make her technically ineligible for a visa.

Better contact that lawyer.

If it's true that blowjobs and handjobs for money is considered prostitution, then the OP clearly CAN'T list this job.

Jeeez! Buddy, Don't list that ###### on the application and if I were you I would never speak of it again. I would also make sure she knows not to mention it.

[garya505 2]

It's prostitution here so I'm pretty sure it's prostitution in the U.S. (except Nevada).

Anyhoo...

http://asialaw.tripod.com/articles/waiver3.html

SUSPICION OF PROSTITUTION AS GROUNDS IN THAILAND:

In Thailand, where some women work in entertainment establishments such as go-go and hostess bars, there are concerns that this employment may be connected to prostitution and therefore establish grounds for inadmissibility. If the BCIS determines that the woman was actually involved in prostitution, this may result in grounds for inadmissibility. However, an application for a waiver can still be applied for.

If the BCIS independently discovers employment that could be deemed as prostitution they will interrogate the individual in order to confirm or deny such employment. If a visa application failed to list such employment (whether directly involved in prostitution or otherwise) this could result in additional investigation which may complicate the future waiver process.

In the event that there is a criminal record of prostitution occurring within the past 10 years, it may be advisable to submit the waiver application subsequent with the visa application.

The BCIS Bangkok Office will not provide any advisory opinions as to the likelihood of an application being accepted or rejected; applications and individuals are considered on a case by case basis.

It sounds like an employment gap would raise suspicions as well. I would imagine if someone wanted to hide this type of employment they would have to fabricate some sort of fake employment record to fill the gap, but would that be a criminal offense on the part of the petitioner?

[lenster 0]

Thee Rak,

It looks like you and me might be in the same boat. I've recently made a similar post along the same lines. Most of the respondents have suggested that I disclose my girlfriend's former profession. Like you I am fearful of the consequences. If you learn anything more I would be interested in hearing what you come up with. I can do the same for you if you'd like. Of course, we are dealing with different countries, my girlfriend is in Brazil. So there might be some differences in that regard.

[TracyTN 237]

I'm pretty sure that blowjobs and handjobs for money are still considered prostitution in the eyes the US Government which would make her technically ineligible for a visa.

Better contact that lawyer.

If it's true that blowjobs and handjobs for money is considered prostitution, then the OP clearly CAN'T list this job.

Jeeez! Buddy, Don't list that ###### on the application and if I were you I would never speak of it again. I would also make sure she knows not to mention it.

Yeah because lying is SUCH a better policy.

Take Yodrak's advice and speak to that attorney.

[goontar 0]

I'm pretty sure that blowjobs and handjobs for money are still considered prostitution in the eyes the US Government which would make her technically ineligible for a visa.

Better contact that lawyer.

If it's true that blowjobs and handjobs for money is considered prostitution, then the OP clearly CAN'T list this job.

Jeeez! Buddy, Don't list that ###### on the application and if I were you I would never speak of it again. I would also make sure she knows not to mention it.

Its Thailand! Gaps in employment are the norm. She was shucking rice somewhere, street vender selling hello kitty stuff or working in an open air cafe. If it was cash they will never no the difference. Say something or nothing but I would certainly not mention anything about a massage parlor.

[kitkat1 5]

I appreciate the predicament that you are in. But remember that the G-325A is filed with the I-129F as one of the required documents in the Fiance Visa petition application. And when you sign the I-129F it says:

PENALTIES: You may by law be imprisoned for not more than five years, or fined $250,000, or both, for entering into a marriage contract for the purpose of evading any provision of the immigration laws, and you may be fined up to $10,000 or imprisoned up to five years, or both, for knowingly and willfully falsifying or concealing a material fact or using any false document in submitting this petition

Lying and getting caught is a very serious situation. Get solid advice from a qualified attorney.

[charlie_brown 0]

I appreciate the predicament that you are in. But remember that the G-325A is filed with the I-129F as one of the required documents in the Fiance Visa petition application. And when you sign the I-129F it says:

PENALTIES: You may by law be imprisoned for not more than five years, or fined $250,000, or both, for entering into a marriage contract for the purpose of evading any provision of the immigration laws, and you may be fined up to $10,000 or imprisoned up to five years, or both, for knowingly and willfully falsifying or concealing a material fact or using any false document in submitting this petition

Lying and getting caught is a very serious situation. Get solid advice from a qualified attorney.

But an attorney must advise the client to tell the truth, no?

[goontar 0]

I appreciate the predicament that you are in. But remember that the G-325A is filed with the I-129F as one of the required documents in the Fiance Visa petition application. And when you sign the I-129F it says:

PENALTIES: You may by law be imprisoned for not more than five years, or fined $250,000, or both, for entering into a marriage contract for the purpose of evading any provision of the immigration laws, and you may be fined up to $10,000 or imprisoned up to five years, or both, for knowingly and willfully falsifying or concealing a material fact or using any false document in submitting this petition

Lying and getting caught is a very serious situation. Get solid advice from a qualified attorney.

But an attorney must advise the client to tell the truth, no?

He does not fill in her 325. She does and she is not subject to this law. I think is he lists it he will have some serious issues getting her over here.

[Thee_Rak 0]

I see what you are saying goontar but it's pretty clear that it's an attachment to the I-129F and by signing that and submitting it I am assuming responsibility for the facts presented.

I'll be calling White & White tonight to see what they have to say but it's pretty clear to me what the G-325A needs to look like. Just a matter of the risk of an investigation.

I appreciate the predicament that you are in. But remember that the G-325A is filed with the I-129F as one of the required documents in the Fiance Visa petition application. And when you sign the I-129F it says:

PENALTIES: You may by law be imprisoned for not more than five years, or fined $250,000, or both, for entering into a marriage contract for the purpose of evading any provision of the immigration laws, and you may be fined up to $10,000 or imprisoned up to five years, or both, for knowingly and willfully falsifying or concealing a material fact or using any false document in submitting this petition

Lying and getting caught is a very serious situation. Get solid advice from a qualified attorney.

But an attorney must advise the client to tell the truth, no?

He does not fill in her 325. She does and she is not subject to this law. I think is he lists it he will have some serious issues getting her over here.