Senator Urges Redskins Change

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

that's one way its happened. who's da chief in this room? is another. that happened last weekend in a hotel when I went to GON (gathering of nations) in Burque. NA are not nearly as thin skinned as overly liberal people portray them as being. now you call someone an actually offensive name, you've got a fight on your hands.

Liberals are uppity anyways, always looking for a reason to be oppressed. For most normal people, 'taint no big thing.

[GandD 5,966]

One simple reason is because these organizations do not operate in a vacuum. They rely on tax payer dollars for their stadiums and fields of play. They are regulated like any other business in the US and bound by the same laws.

So you gonna answer my question? Would you go to a reservation and call a Native American a Redskin? Would you tell a mother how cute her little redskin baby was? Tell the truth.

Probably not. I'm not sure that ties in as neatly as you think it does. I wouldn't call some New Yorker's baby a Yankee. Or a San Francisco baby a 49er.

[Teddy B 17,252]

Probably not. I'm not sure that ties in as neatly as you think it does. I wouldn't call some New Yorker's baby a Yankee. Or a San Francisco baby a 49er.

Nor would I say "What a beautiful Italian or Irish baby you have". We're talking nicknames of sports teams here, not everyday conversations with people on the street or in the office. In the context of the football team there is absolutely nothing wrong with the name Redskins.

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Probably not. I'm not sure that ties in as neatly as you think it does. I wouldn't call some New Yorker's baby a Yankee. Or a San Francisco baby a 49er.

Ah but Yankee and 49er are not words that describe the race of an individual. You would no more call a Native person a Redskin than you would call an Asian person a Yellowskin.

[spookyturtle 9,465]

If your car salesman is black, is it offensive to tell him you want the car in black?

[SMOKE 1,426]

Ah but Yankee and 49er are not words that describe the race of an individual. You would no more call a Native person a Redskin than you would call an Asian person a Yellowskin.

are you offended by the state name Oklahoma? Oklahoma means red people.

[Teddy B 17,252]

Ah but Yankee and 49er are not words that describe the race of an individual. You would no more call a Native person a Redskin than you would call an Asian person a Yellowskin.

Correct, Yankee and 49er do not describe races of people, they describe sports teams and their players, which is what is being discussed here. To call Derek Jeter a Yankee is fine. To call Colin Kapernick a 49er is fine. To call Robert Griffin III a Redskin is also fine. Again, it's all about context.

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[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

If your car salesman is black, is it offensive to tell him you want the car in black?

That's a trick question. Everyone knows black people steals cars, not sells them.

are you offended by the state name Oklahoma? Oklahoma means red people.

I'm offended now that you told me that. I keep a protest sign and marker in my back pocket for such occasions .

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[spookyturtle 9,465]

But Yankee and 49er do not describe races of people, they describe sports teams and their players, which is what is being discussed here. To call Derek Jeter a Yankee is fine. To call Colin Kapernick a 49er is fine. To call Robert Griffin III a Redskin is also fine. Again, it's all about context.

Spoken like a true Bostonian.

[Teddy B 17,252]

Spoken like a true Bostonian.

There's a razz in there somewhere, I just haven't figured it out yet.

[spookyturtle 9,465]

There's a razz in there somewhere, I just haven't figured it out yet.

No razz, we tell it like it is. Everyone forgets that The Revolution started here when the Colonists dressed up like Indians and threw the tea into Boston Harbor and the dumb Brits didn't know it was them. See, this country was founded on racism.

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are you offended by the state name Oklahoma? Oklahoma means red people.

Well I'm sure when Natives were being slaughtered by Whites they weren't calling them Oklahomans.

You may not think the word is offensive but the historical context in which it was applied to Native Americans in a derogatory way is fact. Along with savages and other terms often used to describe indigenous people.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

I always thought redskins referred to angry Irishmen.

[spookyturtle 9,465]

Well I'm sure when Natives were being slaughtered by Whites they weren't calling them Oklahomans.

You may not think the word is offensive but the historical context in which it was applied to Native Americans in a derogatory way is fact. Along with savages and other terms often used to describe indigenous people.

Savages was the one that always got me. Foreign people came here and took an entire continent away from the native people, yet called them blood thirsty savages because they fought back and defended themselves. An idiotic use of the word. What would people do today if China invaded the US, surrender or fight back?

I always thought redskins referred to angry Irishmen.

Only if they were drunk and had red faces.

[SMOKE 1,426]

Well I'm sure when Natives were being slaughtered by Whites they weren't calling them Oklahomans.

You may not think the word is offensive but the historical context in which it was applied to Native Americans in a derogatory way is fact. Along with savages and other terms often used to describe indigenous people.

stuff you make up in your head is NOT fact.

you've been told where the name redskin came from. Oklahoma is a Choctaw word it was suggested by a Choctaw chief during treaty negotiations with the feds in 1866.