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[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

And what's with all this "innocent until proven guilty" BS?

Courts. Presumption ends with a guilty verdict.

I wonder what it would be like if people could legally sell their non-essential organs.

You can. People do.

[GandD 5,966]

I thought more of you.

Voltaire, actually.

You said kill them the day after conviction. Then you mentioned numbers like that matters when it comes to an American's life. So we'll get a few wrong here and there, to me, that's unacceptable. People are not trash to be disposed of.

[Novembro 1,763]

And make sure people get to watch right?

Hell, why don't we just go Game of Thrones on everyone and chop offenders head's off in front of a crowd!

[SMOKE 1,426]

Innocent vs. the not innocent. Not that hard a concept to follow. What crime did an unborn child commit?

FOUL. the use of common sense is not allowed here.

[Robby999 1,024]

I wonder what it would be like if people could legally sell their non-essential organs.

They already do in some countries.

[GandD 5,966]

Hell, why don't we just go Game of Thrones on everyone and chop offenders head's off in front of a crowd!

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

People are not trash to be disposed of.

Some are, and that is the point.

[GandD 5,966]

FOUL. the use of common sense is not allowed here.

I think that argument is more in the context of when cells form a human. From what I hear there's some disagreement to that transition or even its existence.

Some are, and that is the point.

Even if they're wrongfully convicted?

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[decocker 7,198]

Some are, and that is the point.

who gets to decide who is trash? and what about when they're wrong?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/28/death-penalty-study-4-percent-defendants-innocent

[Robby999 1,024]

You said kill them the day after conviction. Then you mentioned numbers like that matters when it comes to an American's life. So we'll get a few wrong here and there, to me, that's unacceptable. People are not trash to be disposed of.

What difference does it make at this point!

Hillary Clinton

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

I think that argument is more in the context of when cells for a human. From what I hear there's some disagreement to that transition or even its existence.

Then life itself lacks any significance, when it is in the womb, but when it takes the life of another, its own life is sacrosanct. How stupid is that?

Edited April 30, 2014 by The Postmaster

[SMOKE 1,426]

I think that argument is more in the context of when cells for a human. From what I hear there's some disagreement to that transition or even its existence.

the gestation process begins the second the egg is fertilized.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

who gets to decide who is trash? and what about when they're wrong?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/28/death-penalty-study-4-percent-defendants-innocent

Circular logic will only make you dizzy.

[GandD 5,966]

Then life itself lacks any significance, when it is in the womb, but when it takes the life of another, its own life is sacrosanct. How stupid is that?

Well, I would contest that there are levels of "life" At conception, "life" is no more a constitutionally protected individual than my dis-guarded fingernails.

the gestation process begins the second the egg is fertilized.

That's true, but its not really a human in any sense of the word. You're even assuming that fertilized egg is always going to become a human, which many times isn't the case.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Even if they're wrongfully convicted?

So, courts have no validity, because they might get it wrong? Well, I guess there is no sense in even holding trials. Maybe suspects can just say they were sorry and go on their way.