1 is 2 many

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I thought for a minute that this could be a thread where everybody agreed that it was good.

What was I thinking.

This should be fairly non-controversial. And it would be had Obama not made an appearance in that clip.

[Janelle2002 3,865]

Of course it's a problem Let's raise awareness

The problem is that by the time the loony left is done, you will need 3 id's, a recorded consent on file with the DA to have consensual sex.

I say persecute the cases of real sexual assault to the fullest

There is also a huge problem in this country with women who falsely accuse men of sexual assault and abuse, when it just ain't so. I would like to also raise awareness about all the mens lives that have been ruined by this, and start a program to prosecute women that do it

Also there was no mention of men being sexually targeted. It happens. I have been the target of unwanted sexual advances from women many times. Biased video.

Some cases are easy when the woman's blood alcohol level was high enough to kill a moose. In this case, we know there was no way in he!! she said yet.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Some cases are easy when the woman's blood alcohol level was high enough to kill a moose. In this case, we know there was no way in he!! she said yet.

There are clear situations where consent cannot be given. The justice system is capable of handling this properly but it needs to make it to the justice system in the first place. That isn't happening as long as colleges are actively sweeping this stuff under the rug.

[Janelle2002 3,865]

There are clear situations where consent cannot be given. The justice system is capable of handling this properly but it needs to make it to the justice system in the first place. That isn't happening as long as colleges are actively sweeping this stuff under the rug.

Yes, you are right. Especially in cases involving prominent sports figures, faculty and kids of university staff.

[BatmanUSA 105]

I didn't think this had anything to do with Obama... its just a feel good PSA.. I don't think this, or any other PSA would prevent any crime..

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

and then there are cases like the Duke Lacrosse team, in which a false accusation is given, and draconin actions are taken against the accused with no evidence. Of course when proven it was all a big lie...Oh well

[decocker 7,198]

and then there are cases like the Duke Lacrosse team, in which a false accusation is given, and draconin actions are taken against the accused with no evidence. Of course when proven it was all a big lie...Oh well

if these flipside cases happened as frequently as you think, wouldn't you have a much more recent draconian/false accuser scenario to propose?

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

if these flipside cases happened as frequently as you think, wouldn't you have a much more recent draconian/false accuser scenario to propose?

http://jonathanturley.org/2013/08/20/virginia-woman-falsely-accuses-man-of-rape-and-sends-him-away-for-four-years-before-recanting-given-just-60-days-in-jail-to-be-served-on-weekends/

Virginia Woman Falsely Accuses Man Of Rape And Sends Him Away For Four Years Before Recanting . . . Given Just 60 Days In Jail To Be Served On Weekends

1, August 20, 2013 by jonathanturley

52118bc04b6a1-1.preview-300I have previously discussed the pattern of prosecutors in either not charging false rape victims or seeking relatively light sentences despite the incarceration of innocent men. (here, here, here, here, here, and here). While I would never recommend a prison sentence for a rape victim who simply identified the wrong man by mistake, the most disturbing cases are those involving false rape claims. For an example of this problem, you need to go no further than the case of Elizabeth Paige Coast.

Coast, 26, accused Johnathan C. Montgomery, a former neighbor of raping her in 2000 when she was 10 years old and he was 14. She later admitted that she made up the story and lied on the witness stand at his June 23, 2008, trial.

Montgomery’s life was ruined and he spent four years in jail. Coast however was sentenced by Hampton Circuit Court Judge Bonnie L. Jones to just two months in jail and ordered to make $90,000 in restitution for perjury. Jones suspended the rest of the five-year sentence and even allowed Coast to serve the remainder on weekends so not to disrupt her life.

Coast blamed her crimes on her reading adult material on the Internet by her mother. When her strict religious mother caught her, the mother (Coast claims) suggested that she was viewing the material because she had been sexually assaulted. She said that the jumped at the excuse to get out of trouble. She said she gave her mother the name of Montgomery when pressed to identify the assailant. Her lawyer insisted that, because she came forward, any jailing would send the wrong message to others who lie about crimes.

Hopewell Commonwealth’s Attorney Richard K. Newman asked for a 10-year sentence with six years suspended so she would serve the same length of time as Montgomery.

I certainly agree that Coast should be credited with coming forward. However, she is now 26. That means that this man went to jail when she was 22. She was 17 when he made the allegations.

Sixty days on weekends sends a message of a different kind: that false rape victims are not subject to the same punishment afforded others who file false police reports, ruin lives, or commit perjury.

Perhaps the most infamous refusal to charge such a case involved Crystal Gale Mangum, 33, the stripper who falsely accused members of the Duke lacrosse team. She became a national celebrity as activists warned that anything but long criminal sentences would be proof of racism by the prosecutors. Durham D.A. Mike Nifong joined this lynch mob atmosphere despite the absence of forensic evidence to support the claim of rape. When he was removed and the lie was exposed however North Carolina Attorney General Roy Cooper refused to prosecute Mangum, who ruined the lives of these students and triggered racial tensions in the region. Cooper simply let her walk in a disgraceful but politically expedient decision.

Notably, there is no published review of the original case and the evidence against Montgomery. There appears only the evidence of the accuser in the case and it makes me wonder about the prosecutor’s role in the case.

[decocker 7,198]

http://jonathanturley.org/2013/08/20/virginia-woman-falsely-accuses-man-of-rape-and-sends-him-away-for-four-years-before-recanting-given-just-60-days-in-jail-to-be-served-on-weekends/

i don't really know what you're trying to argue but no one is advocating for false accusers to walk free. the point is that many rape victims to not step forward and report because of people that believe that false accusations are the norm and not the exception.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

i don't really know what you're trying to argue but no one is advocating for false accusers to walk free. the point is that many rape victims to not step forward and report because of people that believe that false accusations are the norm and not the exception.

II think they would be better off wetting their pants, blowing a whistle of getting a Biden shotgun

[decocker 7,198]

II think they would be better off wetting their pants, blowing a whistle of getting a Biden shotgun

um, what?

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

um, what?

http://jezebel.com/5985902/university-of-colorado-told-women-to-avoid-rape-by-peeing-vomiting-and-menstruating-on-command

[decocker 7,198]

http://jezebel.com/5985902/university-of-colorado-told-women-to-avoid-rape-by-peeing-vomiting-and-menstruating-on-command

i hope you're joking.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

i hope you're joking.

Nope the college actually told girls to do this. Disgusting right?

[decocker 7,198]

Nope the college actually told girls to do this. Disgusting right?

i knew about the gawker link..i guess you were being sarcastic.