Wall Street Republicans' dark secret: Hillary Clinton 2016

[mota bhai 2,675]

By BEN WHITE and MAGGIE HABERMAN | 4/28/14 5:04 AM EDT

Two dozen interviews about the 2016 race with unaligned GOP donors, financial executives and their Washington lobbyists turned up a consistent — and unusual — consolation candidate if Bush demurs, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie doesn’t recover politically and no other establishment favorite gets nominated: Hillary Clinton.

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The darkest secret in the big money world of the Republican coastal elite is that the most palatable alternative to a nominee such as Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas or Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky would be Clinton, a familiar face on Wall Street following her tenure as a New York senator with relatively moderate views on taxation and financial regulation.

“If it turns out to be Jeb versus Hillary we would love that and either outcome would be fine,” one top Republican-leaning Wall Street lawyer said over lunch in midtown Manhattan last week. “We could live with either one. Jeb versus Joe Biden would also be fine. It’s Rand Paul or Ted Cruz versus someone like Elizabeth Warren that would be everybody’s worst nightmare.”

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There are, of course, other GOP candidates who could emerge as favorites of the financial industry after making their case over the next few months.

Rubio, even with his rocky start on immigration, has impressed many on Wall Street, including the Blackstone Group’s Steve Schwarzman, during his forays to the city.

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Kasich, a former Lehman Brothers managing director, is viewed as a candidate who might fit the consensus, center-right mold favored by Wall Street. But multiple GOP operatives and donors said they see few signs Kasich, who is in the midst of a reelection fight, is currently organizing for a run.

Instead, the donors, financial executives and Washington representatives offered a consistent refrain: If we can’t nominate someone like Bush or Christie from the pro-business wing of the party, and if the GOP nominee is from the far right, then we will hold our noses and tolerate Clinton.

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Ted Cruz ... is viewed negatively by many in the industry for his support of last year’s government shutdown and scorched earth approach to political battle. Cruz fired up an activist gathering in New Hampshire earlier this month with the kind of provocative populist message that makes bankers very nervous. “The rich and powerful, those who walk the corridors of power, are getting fat and happy,” Cruz thundered. At the same event, Paul argued that the GOP “cannot be the party of fat cats, rich people and Wall Street.”

That kind of talk leaves some rich people contemplating the notion of supporting Clinton in what would amount to a reversion to 2008, when Wall Street money went nearly 2 to 1 for then-Sen. Barack Obama over Sen. John McCain.

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/04/wall-street-republicans-hillary-clinton-2016-106070.html

[GandD 5,966]

Ted Cruz vs Hillary may be the first presidential election I would either vote for a third party, write my own name in, or just not go stand in line. I hate being around civic gatherings anyway, its like Walmart.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Ted Cruz is a smart man. He just looks like a hillbilly. He is one politician in need of a makeover and a style coach.

[GandD 5,966]

Ted Cruz is a smart man. He just looks like a hillbilly. He is one politician in need of a makeover and a style coach.

He could be Albert Einstein for all I care. What matters is how he portrays himself which is not overly intelligent. A government shutdown is not a responsible way to negotiate.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

A government shutdown is not a responsible way to negotiate.

Why not?

[GandD 5,966]

Why not?

Because the expensive parts of the government can't be shut down so you basically end up shutting down parks and putting civic bureaucrats on furlough. A dog and pony show, nothing more.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Because the expensive parts of the government can't be shut down so you basically end up shutting down parks and putting civic bureaucrats on furlough. A dog and pony show, nothing more.

Again, why not? Why continue to spend the fortunes of generations yet to come, just so some hippies can form a drum circle?

From anybody can edit this Wikipedia:

Cruz graduated cum laude from Princeton University with a Bachelor of Arts from the Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs in 1992.[2][7] While at Princeton, he competed for the American Whig-Cliosophic Society's Debate Panel and won the top speaker award at both the 1992 U.S. National Debating Championship and the 1992 North American Debating Championship.[33] In 1992, he was named U.S. National Speaker of the Year and Team of the Year (with his debate partner, David Panton).[33] Cruz was also a semi-finalist at the 1995 World Universities Debating Championship, making him Princeton’s highest-ranked debater at the championship.[34][35] Princeton's debate team later named their annual novice championship after Cruz.[34]

Cruz's senior thesis on the separation of powers, titled "Clipping the Wings of Angels," draws its inspiration from a passage attributed to President James Madison: "If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary." Cruz argued that the drafters of the Constitution intended to protect the rights of their constituents, and the last two items in the Bill of Rights offered an explicit stop against an all-powerful state. Cruz wrote: "They simply do so from different directions. The Tenth stops new powers, and the Ninth fortifies all other rights, or non-powers."[31][36]

After graduating from Princeton, Cruz attended Harvard Law School, graduating magna cum laude in 1995 with a Juris Doctor.[2][37] While at Harvard Law, Cruz was a primary editor of the Harvard Law Review, and executive editor of the Harvard Journal of Law and Public Policy, and a founding editor of the Harvard Latino Law Review.[7] Referring to Cruz's time as a student at Harvard Law, Professor Alan Dershowitz said, "Cruz was off-the-charts brilliant."[19][38][39][40][41][42] At Harvard Law, Cruz was a John M. Olin Fellow in Law and Economics.[43]

Edited April 29, 2014 by The Postmaster

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

The "government shut-down" he forced to allegedly negotiate stricter spending control actually ended up costing the American taxpayer more money. It was a silly play that no intelligent person would have gone for. He ain't as smart as some old guys think is.

[GandD 5,966]

Again, why not? Why continue to spend the fortunes of generations yet to come, just some hippies can form a drum circle?

Overall, it didn't save anything. The last numbers I saw showed the whole shindig actually cost more in the long run. it wasn't used to save money but if it was, it failed.

It was used to negotiate and also failed. I refer to it as the kid that takes his ball and goes home.

[decocker 7,198]

i'd vote ted cruz over clinton, anything to push along our impending doom.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

i'd vote ted cruz over clinton, anything to push along our impending doom.

That's one way to look at it. Hillary would just drag out the inevitable collapse of this country while Ted would probably accomplish it in his first term in office.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Overall, it didn't save anything. The last numbers I saw showed the whole shindig actually cost more in the long run. it wasn't used to save money but if it was, it failed.

It was used to negotiate and also failed. I refer to it as the kid that takes his ball and goes home.

One battle does not make a war. Let us see the Democrats pass another tax and spend budget after they lose the Senate at the end of this year. Republicans will love the new rules Harry forced on the Senate, Obama, not so much.

[GandD 5,966]

One battle does not make a war. Let us see the Democrats pass another tax and spend budget after they lose the Senate at the end of this year. Republicans will love the new rules Harry forced on the Senate, Obama, not so much.

Prob. I still think the shut down was a dumb idea and I think Cruz was a ####### for orchestrating it.

[JohnR! 5,495]

Ted Cruz is a smart man. He just looks like a hillbilly. He is one politician in need of a makeover and a style coach.

He does not stand a chance. Although it will be interesting to watch Palin ask for his birth certificate...

Edited April 29, 2014 by Gegel

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

He does not stand a chance.

Probably right. Senators should not be President.