Toyota Is Moving Its US Headquarters From California To Texas

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Texas has room.

In the part where nobody but the crazies live.

[GandD 5,966]

[luckytxn 2,265]

Not even including the jobs the plant brings that services the facility. Lot more jobs than the employees of the plant itself.

Is $10,000 per job really too much?

Every job brings with it an entire family. These aren't families that will draw benefits. These are families that will pay taxes and contribute. Net net, they pay $10k for a job but get back a lot more over the long haul.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Not even including the jobs the plant brings that services the facility. Lot more jobs than the employees of the plant itself.

Is $10,000 per job really too much?

Every job brings with it an entire family. These aren't families that will draw benefits. These are families that will pay taxes and contribute. Net net, they pay $10k for a job but get back a lot more over the long haul.

What's the difference between the family of a Toyota worker and the family of someone working at Walmart besides probably having more disposable income? Both families have to buy groceries, pay rent (mortgage), clothes, gas, car payments, etc.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Texas has room.

Yeah but judging from my recent visit to Dallas, they're filling that room much faster than they can connect it. The infrastructure is nowhere near keeping pace with the seemingly exploding population. You can't get from here to there around Dallas, you only get from this traffic jam to that traffic jam. And there's not much in terms of alternate means of transport. Not at all appealing. They may eventually figure that out but right now it's rather hideous.

What's the difference between the family of a Toyota worker and the family of someone working at Walmart besides probably having more disposable income? Both families have to buy groceries, pay rent (mortgage), clothes, gas, car payments, etc.

The difference is that the family working at Toyota can afford these things.

Edited April 29, 2014 by Mr. Big Dog

[B_J 2,752]

Texans need better math teachers.

Reported!

[one...two...tree 2,762]

The difference is that the family working at Toyota can afford these things.

But technically, the state is giving those Toyota workers a big fat $10,000 tax rebate. If Texas likes finagling with taxes to encourage economic growth, it would make sense to at least raise the minimum wage.

[mota bhai 2,675]

Yeah but judging from my recent visit to Dallas, they're filling that room much faster than they can connect it.

I have no doubt that they will repeat the mistakes of greater Atlanta or even greater Raleigh.

[GandD 5,966]

I have no doubt that they will repeat the mistakes of greater Atlanta or even greater Raleigh.

What mistakes?

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Reported!

Sorry, but hopefully Rick Perry and his economic advisors weren't students of yours.

[mota bhai 2,675]

What mistakes?

Not building infrastructure fast enough.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I have no doubt that they will repeat the mistakes of greater Atlanta or even greater Raleigh.

They're working on that diligently. Atlanta would be an improvement at this point.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

But technically, the state is giving those Toyota workers a big fat $10,000 tax rebate. If Texas likes finagling with taxes to encourage economic growth, it would make sense to at least raise the minimum wage.

Texas does it better than Floriduh. Here, we hand out million dollar packages for retailers to set up shop. Not only do they not really create any jobs but rather relocate them from other retailers, but what we're talking about are by and large part-time minimum wage jobs that would exist one way or the other. No need to pizz millions of dollars of taxpayer money into corporate HQs for that. But hey, they teach worse math here than almost anywhere else in the world. Leave it to Republicans and no means of corporate welfare will ever be left underutilized.

Edited April 29, 2014 by Mr. Big Dog

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

But technically, the state is giving those Toyota workers a big fat $10,000 tax rebate. If Texas likes finagling with taxes to encourage economic growth, it would make sense to at least raise the minimum wage.

Texas likes finagling with taxes to grow the bottom lines of corporations. The Toyota workers get jack. The corporation gets a $10K wage subsidy per employee. What you're proposing would be doing the opposite. It would cost the corporation money.

[mota bhai 2,675]

Texas likes finagling with taxes to grow the bottom lines of corporations. The Toyota workers get jack. The corporation gets a $10K wage subsidy per employee. What you're proposing would be doing the opposite. It would cost the corporation money.

I'm thinking about this and it sounds good to me.

The employee gets an automatic raise due to the lower cost of living.

The employer gets an infusion of cash from the Texas taxpayer; combine that with the lower cost of living in Texas and the employer gets a nice raise too.

Texas taxpayers will undoubtedly gain tax revenues from these employees in the long run, well in excess of the 10K the taxpayer spent to bring them there.

Who loses here?

Besides California.