CFO and the AOS

[Hank_ 9,174]

Hank, he is a USC so yes...but what if he were to leave and say get permanent resident status in the PI? She would have to help in this though

Reading the forum I hope not but googling 864 she may find it

Caryh, this is probably the best. "Lets go back and visit your parents and see how they are doing, help them out a bit and then we can look at land to build on and move your parents into one of the units". "When we return back to the states we can work on your removal of conditions",

"Pit Viper" = bad Filipina wife (not USC)

Psst ... don't bring up removal of conditions... out of sight .. out of mind.

Oh, and he also found in her browser history that she had been looking up family law issues, he does not have her password but when she left the computer unattended he took a looksy, Ding Ding Ding, wake up time

Yup... a pit viper for sure. Maybe even a cobra... play it some soft music... distract it ... then let the mongoose loose.

[Jeff @ Missy 9]

Psst ... don't bring up removal of conditions... out of sight .. out of mind.

Seems like I read something about the immigrant if they do not file tax returns they are in violation of the rules and can be deported. "Yes dear, I just filed our taxes" (married filing separate)

She has even mentioned the ROC date to him. They were already thinking of taking a trip back to the PI and she wanted to make sure she would be back in time to file for the removal

[Caryh 5,206]

Seems like I read something about the immigrant if they do not file tax returns they are in violation of the rules and can be deported. "Yes dear, I just filed our taxes" (married filing separate)

She has even mentioned the ROC date to him. They were already thinking of taking a trip back to the PI and she wanted to make sure she would be back in time to file for the removal

Get ROC done, return home and buy some property, return to USA, divorce husband and sue for alimony. Sometimes people just go bad, or are bad and the start and hid it well.

[novedsac 355]

Based on what I've read here, it seems the girl is determined and going through the process of learning. I'm not sure how sharp she is with figuring out the best course of action to achieve her ends, but it would be prudent to assume she is very capable and likely to succeed given the current situation.

Your friend really needs to put himself in adversarial mindset. I wouldn't take the risk that she's dumb enough to fall for returning to the PI and then missing her chance to return to the USA. Your friend also needs to assume that VAWA is an option she has considered and potentially is planning for. Your friend should focus on how to protect himself from potential abuse claims that would be supportive of a VAWA claim and pursue a divorce and remove himself from her as soon as possible.

Your friend shouldn't be fearful of a VAWA claim. The actual VAWA petitiion for adjustment of status will be blind to him and have absolutely no consequence to him. However, the accusations of abuse that she would need to support such a claim will be a problem for him, though for these he will have the opportunity to defend himself. If she's dumb enough to bring up false abuse in a divorce proceeding, again, he would have ample opportunity to debunk them in court.

Your friend should also not put much weigh in the I-864. Yes, as the beneficiary she would have the right to sue for support under the I-864. Yes, governmental agencies and beneficiaries have been successful in judgements against petitioner's who have signed these I-864s. However, the success rates are relatively few. It will be a long shot for her. In most cases, I believe it is most effective as a threat to get a petitioner to agree to a settlement. Tell your friend to play hard ball on this one and he'll likely succeed.

He needs to change his mindset. He needs to understand where he wants to be when this is through. He needs a sound strategy to get there. He needs to execute that strategy without second guessing himself.

[Hank_ 9,174]

Seems like I read something about the immigrant if they do not file tax returns they are in violation of the rules and can be deported. "Yes dear, I just filed our taxes" (married filing separate)

She has even mentioned the ROC date to him. They were already thinking of taking a trip back to the PI and she wanted to make sure she would be back in time to file for the removal

Ahhhh then yes play the loving/caring hubby... we will be back in plenty of time for ROC... let's go visit family and look at land... "poof" - he leaves back to the USA and files for divorce, never completing ROC, her GC dies and she is no longer able to enter the USA. One viper returned to the rock she crawled out from under.

[Caryh 5,206]

Your friend really needs to put himself in adversarial mindset. I wouldn't take the risk that she's dumb enough to fall for returning to the PI and then missing her chance to return to the USA. Your friend also needs to assume that VAWA is an option she has considered and potentially is planning for. Your friend should focus on how to protect himself from potential abuse claims that would be supportive of a VAWA claim and pursue a divorce and remove himself from her as soon as possible.

No VAWA required, she has a green card. Although false abuse charges are often used as leverage and control in divorce cases, even when immigration is not an issue in the divorce. A "pit viper" would not be immune from attempting this strategy.

[Jeff @ Missy 9]

Ahhhh then yes play the loving/caring hubby... we will be back in plenty of time for ROC... let's go visit family and look at land... "poof" - he leaves back to the USA and files for divorce, never completing ROC, her GC dies and she is no longer able to enter the USA. One viper returned to the rock she crawled out from under.

I wonder if a lost GC can be obtained by claiming it was lost? Of course she would have to pay for it and would have to get it from USEM.

So a "legal resident" you mentioned earlier. She has been here for well over a year and the state she is in has a 6 month residency requirement if that what you mentioned earlier.

Guam had divorces that could be done in one week, all you had to do is be there that long. It used to be that you did not have to even set foot on the island.

I don't think she would pull the abuse card but if backed into a corner you never know.

My friend is pretty naive. He says she has not said anything for a few days and he relaxes, then she brings it up again, the demands and all. She wants him to buy her a car now and he is not cash rich. Buy her a car and then she has more opportunities to begin her plan. Bad bad bad. How much sleep will he lose over this, needs to nip it in the bud and get on with it. Luckily there are no children invloved

[n and m 10]

This info is be good to know, especially for co-sponsors who could be on the hook for someone they do not even know. There are so many scammers in the PI and for someone who has not had significant time on the ground could be really duped by them, and they are experts at this. My friend had lots of time with her prior to starting the K1 process. I was the one who encouraged him to do it so and is why I am helping him with ideas. You nailed it on this one!

True, that's why, as Ive always said, know the woman very well....You need to be realistic....There are many post about Filipino scammers, but I still say, this is partly fault of the USC too. Be realistic, do not be blinded by your fantasy of getting "young cheap nookie"..

[Hank_ 9,174]

I agree... scammers are like fishermen... they just dangle the hook... ya have to bite to get caught.

[novedsac 355]

No VAWA required, she has a green card. Although false abuse charges are often used as leverage and control in divorce cases, even when immigration is not an issue in the divorce. A "pit viper" would not be immune from attempting this strategy.

Ah, another brain fart, I missed the part where she had her GC. With the green card she's free to work, travel, get a driver's license, etc., etc.

Okay, just divorce her and move on. The likelihood of her getting any traction with the I-864 is slim; I'd call her bluff and let her run with it.

I still don't think she'd be fool enough to fall for the 'lure her back to the rock she crawled out from under' scheme; sounds like a lot of trouble and expense for a proposition that will take time and probably doesn't have high odds of success.

[novedsac 355]

My friend is pretty naive. He says she has not said anything for a few days and he relaxes, then she brings it up again, the demands and all. She wants him to buy her a car now and he is not cash rich. Buy her a car and then she has more opportunities to begin her plan. Bad bad bad. How much sleep will he lose over this, needs to nip it in the bud and get on with it. Luckily there are no children invloved

She's playing him like a banjo. She doesn't want him anxious. She doesn't want him preparing for anything. She wants him to experience periods of calm where he thinks it's blown over and everything will be okay. It's classic manipulation.

From you've written, there's been plenty for him to see and experience to figure out what's going on here. He needs to prioritize getting his life in order and getting her out. He can play the same game of being nice to her while working on an offensive plan to end the marriage and protect his interests.

[Jeff @ Missy 9]

Ah, another brain fart, I missed the part where she had her GC. With the green card she's free to work, travel, get a driver's license, etc., etc.

Okay, just divorce her and move on. The likelihood of her getting any traction with the I-864 is slim; I'd call her bluff and let her run with it.

I still don't think she'd be fool enough to fall for the 'lure her back to the rock she crawled out from under' scheme; sounds like a lot of trouble and expense for a proposition that will take time and probably doesn't have high odds of success.

She does want land and the apartments though and playing along with this may work. She has a job though and does not want to quit it as she cannot take off enough time to do the trip. She has saved a significant amount of money from working as she does not contribute much to the household bills (sends for mom and auntie) and food, pretty much is saving it for her future, her life back in phils doing nothing is her dream,

I will do my best to help him make a rational plan. He wishes he would never had brought her over now, quite obvious, but to cut bait and get her out of his life will be a tough one. I am going over to the PI this summer and I will try and get them to 'visit me for awhile'.

[Caryh 5,206]

What actual state does this couple live in? His exposure is highly going to depend on the jurisdiction he lives in.

[Jeff @ Missy 9]

What actual state does this couple live in? His exposure is highly going to depend on the jurisdiction he lives in.

don't really want to say right now...but my guess is it would be more on her side. There have been some other local stories I have heard and they are not favorable to the man. A bit of legal advice before the chit hits the fan would be a good idea for sure

[Caryh 5,206]

don't really want to say right now...but my guess is it would be more on her side. There have been some other local stories I have heard and they are not favorable to the man. A bit of legal advice before the chit hits the fan would be a good idea for sure

I totally understand the desire for keeping that undisclosed right now. Too bad he lives in one of the less than fair states. A person can rest a lot easier when they live in a state that actually has fair laws in the event a marriage falls apart.