CFO and the AOS

[Hank_ 9,174]

So you say "she" has to do the ROC, does he need to sign anything? That would make him feel relieved for the time being. Yes the spousal abuse thing I have heard about, too many times actually and the sponsor getting shut out of their home and other really bad things.

Hmm, OK thanks for that. Maybe getting the info from her friend. My wife BTW seemed to know about this also...yikes!

Lots of things go on for ROC, including a new I-864, they must provide evidence of a genuine marriage (co-mingling of funds, assets and such) and without the husband's cooperation it will not happen (this is where he has to watch out for the pit viper stuff - spousal abuse claims)

I would suggest, as was already suggested, that he quietly and with a smile - CHA (cover his azz), file for divorce and get her ... "G-O-N-E"

Edited April 23, 2014 by Hank_

[Jeff @ Missy 9]

I really think she is, and this other group of Filipinas, are counting their fortune way before they cashed their checks. Gather evidence, build the case, file for divorce, and kick her to the curb.

This has to all be done with a SMILE on his face. He has to be gracious until he has what he needs and is not placed into a situation such as Hank has mentioned. That would completely destroy his case in all ways.

Revenge is best served cold...he needs to be showing his attempting to HELP her get established and out of the relationship. She is going to try to sabotage it to her advantage at any cost to him.

She has shown her colors and now he has to be much smarter than her about it.

Exactly what I have been telling him, think this through and do not set off any alarms so that she may think he is planning his counterattack. I have also mentioned that he should take that trip back to the PI and even go to the point of purchasing some land for her so she can feel like she is getting what she wants. Her ultimate goal is to build rental properties so she does not have to work. When back there he can leave quietly, alone.

[xchaos777 0]

Yes, it is not emotional now...logical steps now...keep the emotions far from his actions.

He could buy a cheap little apartment there for her 'to rent' (he won't have rights to property there unless he is a Filipino citizen by the way, another way for her to run with his money). Snag her green card and run from the country...hehe.

He sells his home here and buys property there in her name he will be finished.

[Jeff @ Missy 9]

You said 'you advised against' her meeting other Filipinas. What was the option, locking her up in the house and forbidding her to make friends? Because there is no legal or ethical way of stopping another human being from making whatever friends they want. The fact that she moved here from abroad doesn't change that.

Too often I hear about guys (occasionally women too) getting taken in by scammers from abroad. It is my feeling that people who get taken in are poor judges of character, and/or blinded by loneliness and/or lust. I still believe this is the exception, not the rule.

Actually on their first Fil-Am get togethers one of the ladies started in on her about what will you do if your husband dies. When he told me this I advised against this contact, which he did not, and now he regrets it. The two ladies now work together and have all plenty of time to scheme.

The two of them actually stayed with me for an extended time in the Philippines, I thought she was ok but of course I do not know her like he does. She was trying to stir things up with my wife the other day too, not going to be welcome in my home anymore.

I have a pretty good grip on the Filipino culture and one thing for sure is they are VERY social. Living in the PI for years I got to meet a good cross section of them. I am actually planning on returning due to this, she misses family and I get along with all of them and all in all life is pretty good there minus dealing with the gov. This is another topic though...

[Jon and Krissy 452]

Actually on their first Fil-Am get togethers one of the ladies started in on her about what will you do if your husband dies. When he told me this I advised against this contact, which he did not, and now he regrets it. The two ladies now work together and have all plenty of time to scheme.

Holy mackerel! That's really messed up. Wow.

[Boiler 45,482]

There is not much a single person can claim in the way of means tested benefits. Obamacare might be a new issue but she does not qualify for Medicaid yet.

I know of no cases where the Government has gone against an individual, there must be some, surprised they have not been mentioned.

I recollect one case which involved a sponsored person seeking monies from their sponsor, that was many years ago, it was tied up in Divorce so not really clear cut as to the basis, I think it was something a Lawyer threw into the pot.

One thing was that the person had to mitigate their loss, ie get a job. so any potential loss would be the difference between the income and the sponsored amount.

If it was that easy it would be a sticky in some of the sub forums.

[Jeff @ Missy 9]

Yes, it is not emotional now...logical steps now...keep the emotions far from his actions.

He could buy a cheap little apartment there for her 'to rent' (he won't have rights to property there unless he is a Filipino citizen by the way, another way for her to run with his money). Snag her green card and run from the country...hehe.

He sells his home here and buys property there in her name he will be finished.

Well, he could buy her a small lot, then she has something after he leaves. I know the laws of ownership there and have seen many friends who thought they knew their wives well only to be taken after they got what they consider enough to be self sufficient.

Now what Hank has said about the ROC is good info. I will have him read into this in detail. i deal't with the IR status so do not have knowledge of this

[Jeff @ Missy 9]

There is not much a single person can claim in the way of means tested benefits. Obamacare might be a new issue but she does not qualify for Medicaid yet.

I know of no cases where the Government has gone against an individual, there must be some, surprised they have not been mentioned.

I recollect one case which involved a sponsored person seeking monies from their sponsor, that was many years ago, it was tied up in Divorce so not really clear cut as to the basis, I think it was something a Lawyer threw into the pot.

One thing was that the person had to mitigate their loss, ie get a job. so any potential loss would be the difference between the income and the sponsored amount.

If it was that easy it would be a sticky in some of the sub forums.

He is not really concerned about the gov suing, he is getting tax subsidies with Obamacare though but that is chump change in the scheme of things. He is terrified about her suing though as his house was used as his income requirements and if he had to sell it to pay her he would not be in a good situation.

VJ being about getting your visa is not about undoing it so maybe not much here. I looked at many of the past threads but not really what I was looking for

[Caryh 5,206]

Yes, it is not emotional now...logical steps now...keep the emotions far from his actions.

He could buy a cheap little apartment there for her 'to rent' (he won't have rights to property there unless he is a Filipino citizen by the way, another way for her to run with his money). Snag her green card and run from the country...hehe.

He sells his home here and buys property there in her name he will be finished.

Yep, take on a trip back to the Philippines in order to look at property to buy. While she's out, catch a plane back to the USA, with her passport and green card in hand. When he's back, get divorced.

But first, document the threats to sue for 125% of poverty unless he sells his home and hands all his assets to her, so she can put them into her sole possession in the Philippines.

[Jeff @ Missy 9]

Lots of things go on for ROC, including a new I-864, they must provide evidence of a genuine marriage (co-mingling of funds, assets and such) and without the husband's cooperation it will not happen (this is where he has to watch out for the pit viper stuff - spousal abuse claims)

I would suggest, as was already suggested, that he quietly and with a smile - CHA (cover his azz), file for divorce and get her ... "G-O-N-E"

This info is be good to know, especially for co-sponsors who could be on the hook for someone they do not even know. There are so many scammers in the PI and for someone who has not had significant time on the ground could be really duped by them, and they are experts at this. My friend had lots of time with her prior to starting the K1 process. I was the one who encouraged him to do it so and is why I am helping him with ideas. You nailed it on this one!

[Caryh 5,206]

This info is be good to know, especially for co-sponsors who could be on the hook for someone they do not even know. There are so many scammers in the PI and for someone who has not had significant time on the ground could be really duped by them, and they are experts at this. My friend had lots of time with her prior to starting the K1 process. I was the one who encouraged him to do it so and is why I am helping him with ideas. You nailed it on this one!

There is no new I-864 when applying to remove conditions. He cannot get off the hook that easily.

[Hank_ 9,174]

There is no new I-864 when applying to remove conditions. He cannot get off the hook that easily.

My oops.... but there is a barb-less hook hiding in there just the same; one requirement is the beneficiary has to have legal residence status.

This is where the "pit viper" has to be watched carefully. (hmm I wonder if she is reading this forum ... ? )

[Caryh 5,206]

My oops.... but there is a barb-less hook hiding in there just the same; one requirement is the beneficiary has to have legal residence status.

This is where the "pit viper" has to be watched carefully. (hmm I wonder if she is reading this forum ... ? )

I'd definitely be making a trip home with the "pit viper". Not many would have the resources to return without their passport and green card. Even more so if you're on one of the further out islands.

[Jeff @ Missy 9]

My oops.... but there is a barb-less hook hiding in there just the same; one requirement is the beneficiary has to have legal residence status.

This is where the "pit viper" has to be watched carefully. (hmm I wonder if she is reading this forum ... ? )

Hank, he is a USC so yes...but what if he were to leave and say get permanent resident status in the PI? She would have to help in this though

Reading the forum I hope not but googling 864 she may find it

Caryh, this is probably the best. "Lets go back and visit your parents and see how they are doing, help them out a bit and then we can look at land to build on and move your parents into one of the units". "When we return back to the states we can work on your removal of conditions",

Edited April 23, 2014 by Jeff @ Missy

[Jeff @ Missy 9]

This is where the "pit viper" has to be watched carefully. (hmm I wonder if she is reading this forum ... ? )

Oh, and he also found in her browser history that she had been looking up family law issues, he does not have her password but when she left the computer unattended he took a looksy, Ding Ding Ding, wake up time