Yeah, you're a terrorist.

[Peikko 1,575]

Look. We are pretty much a police state now. To have to see citizens get riled up enough to bring arms to make sure that peaceful protesters are protected is insane. When citizens do come to protect peaceful protesters against a Federal armed force and they are called terrorists shows me that we are past the point of no return.

The US a police state? That's a new definition of police state that I was previously unaware of. This hyperbole over what was essentially a petty row about a guy who refuses to pay the proper grazing fees because he does not 'recognise' the Bureau of Land Management is just ridiculous. No, it was not self defense, it was intimidation, to what purpose, only the nuts who came out to play with their guns know the answer to that but intimidating government employees going about their lawful purposes is indefensible if you believe in the rule of law, which incidentally, I do. If you think that's a good excuse to go start a civil war I feel very sorry for you.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

You are the one making a false statement. Where did they obstruct justice? They were not obstructing justice when they crossed state lines. In fact nothing they did was illegal. You are just grandstanding. Now show the proof they did as you said.

They did not obstruct justice? They threatened federal officers that were in the process of enforcing a lawful court order at gunpoint. Only in the mind of the thoroughly deranged is that lawful behavior.

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I agree F that dude. Obama should have called a drone strike on him and his cattle and served up steaks to the BLM.

You think these loony toons would have learned their lesson after Ruby Ridge and Waco.

If you don't like that the State owns a lot of land well guess what? There is a legal way to go about changing that. This ain't Afghanistan or Somalia, you can't just make up your own rules and as long as you bring more guns you win. He lost in court twice. He's a thief. He's not paid his dues and he has made profit off of our (meaning you and me the People) land.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I agree F that dude. Obama should have called a drone strike on him and his cattle and served up steaks to the BLM.

You think these loony toons would have learned their lesson after Ruby Ridge and Waco.

If you don't like that the State owns a lot of land well guess what? There is a legal way to go about changing that. This ain't Afghanistan or Somalia, you can't just make up your own rules and as long as you bring more guns you win. He lost in court twice. He's a thief. He's not paid his dues and he has made profit off of our (meaning you and me the People) land.

That's the long and short of it. Cliven Bundy is thief. He stole about a million dollars from the American people. And that somehow makes him a cause célèbre among the deranged and gun nutters.

[luckytxn 2,265]

They were protecting the peaceful demonstrators. They started marching toward the Fed operation. The Feds had sharpshooters and armed men ready to stop the marchers. The militia took up positions to return fire to protect them. They are not afraid to confront and die for their rights.

They did not obstruct justice? They threatened federal officers that were in the process of enforcing a lawful court order at gunpoint. Only in the mind of the thoroughly deranged is that lawful behavior.

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He's the worse kind of thief too. He's stolen and profited for so long he thinks it's his.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

They were protecting the peaceful demonstrators. They started marching toward the Fed operation. The Feds had sharpshooters and armed men ready to stop the marchers. The militia took up positions to return fire to protect them. They are not afraid to confront and die for their rights.

Bullshite. The federal officers were carrying out a lawful court order. Any interference with that is a felony. The armed thugs threatened these officers at gunpoint. That's obstruction of justice at a minimum. That's a felony any thus most certainly not lawful conduct. Plain and simple. In a society based on the rule of law, that's how it works. In right wing moonbat la-la-land it is alright to live outside the law and pizz on the courts. These people ought to be brought up on charges and sent up the river. Best if they would just have been shot for their crimes right then and there.

[Peikko 1,575]

They were protecting the peaceful demonstrators. They started marching toward the Fed operation. The Feds had sharpshooters and armed men ready to stop the marchers. The militia took up positions to return fire to protect them. They are not afraid to confront and die for their rights.

That's a completely deluded view of what happened. Peaceful demonstrators do not need armed protection, no one was going to attack them, they did not need to be defended. If your version of reality had been true, there would have been a massacre, as it was the Feds made the smart move and decided to wait it out. Sad though, that people like you should defend the actions of lawless thugs, I guess if a lawless thug is white and carries a gun he's a hero, weird that.

[luckytxn 2,265]

The Feds stopped as some of them were going to die if they if they continued. They didn't have the stomache to kill citizens who were demonstrating peaceful.

That's a completely deluded view of what happened. Peaceful demonstrators do not need armed protection, no one was going to attack them, they did not need to be defended. If your version of reality had been true, there would have been a massacre, as it was the Feds made the smart move and decided to wait it out. Sad though, that people like you should defend the actions of lawless thugs, I guess if a lawless thug is white and carries a gun he's a hero, weird that.

Smh

I expected you to pull a Gary.

Bullshite. The federal officers were carrying out a lawful court order. Any interference with that is a felony. The armed thugs threatened these officers at gunpoint. That's obstruction of justice at a minimum. That's a felony any thus most certainly not lawful conduct. Plain and simple. In a society based on the rule of law, that's how it works. In right wing moonbat la-la-land it is alright to live outside the law and pizz on the courts. These people ought to be brought up on charges and sent up the river. Best if they would just have been shot for their crimes right then and there.

[ready4ONE 5,400]

They were protecting the peaceful demonstrators. They started marching toward the Fed operation. The Feds had sharpshooters and armed men ready to stop the marchers. The militia took up positions to return fire to protect them. They are not afraid to confront and die for their rights.

In your world, defending a lying theif is a right to die for?

[Danno 1,228]

You think these loony toons would have learned their lesson after Ruby Ridge and Waco.

Obviously they did..... their firepower has increased quite a bit to good effect.

Thankfully, team Obama has also learned and backed down.

[TBoneTX 46,226]

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Yes, these terrorists are actually the peace corps that Obama was talking about in that clip. Jeez.

[Peikko 1,575]

The Feds stopped as some of them were going to die if they if they continued. They didn't have the stomache to kill citizens who were demonstrating peaceful.

Smh

I expected you to pull a Gary.

As I said, if it really was the government employees going after peaceful demonstrators blood would have spilled. As it was, the government employees decided rightly that confrontation with armed and agitated nitwits was best avoided. Good call, but stupid, stupid idea by the wanna be freedom fighters.

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[Danno 1,228]

As I said, if it really was the government employees going after peaceful demonstrators blood would have spilled. As it was, the government employees decided rightly that confrontation with armed and agitated nitwits was best avoided. Good call, but stupid, stupid idea by the wanna be freedom fighters.

Hold up, how do you know it was Gov't employees who decided... it seemed quite obvious the hirelings were brought back from the edge by someone a bit farther up the chain, I'm betting someone elected or appointed.

To be honest, this thing has all the hashtags of the last great citizen vs Gov't slaughter ...... back when we trusted another Democrat with power (clinton).

You remember what happened to all those women and children?

No one had the good sense to deescalate the events then, I am glad they backed down this time because while the Gov't might have had a case for legal action they dayum sure over stepped their authority with the SHOCK AND AWE tactic they were using.

The Left is starting to learn why that word "necessary" is in that amendment.

Without guns in the hands of citizens, Big gov would have steam rolled on.

Why?

Q: The nature of Gov't is to consume more and more power.

When our constitution was ratified we had the smallest gov't in the civilized world, we now have the largest and there is no close second.

[ready4ONE 5,400]

Hold up, how do you know it was Gov't employees who decided... it seemed quite obvious the hirelings were brought back from the edge by someone a bit farther up the chain, I'm betting someone elected or appointed.

To be honest, this thing has all the hashtags of the last great citizen vs Gov't slaughter ...... back when we trusted another Democrat with power (clinton).

You remember what happened to all those women and children?

No one had the good sense to deescalate the events then, I am glad they backed down this time because while the Gov't might have had a case for legal action they dayum sure over stepped their authority with the SHOCK AND AWE tactic they were using.

The Left is starting to learn why that word "necessary" is in that amendment.

Without guns in the hands of citizens, Big gov would have steam rolled on.

Why?

Q: The nature of Gov't is to consume more and more power.

When our constitution was ratified we had the smallest gov't in the civilized world, we now have the largest and there is no close second.

Get a grip Danno. The decision to back down was most definitely NOT because the nut jobs were so heavily armed. Nor were the nut jobs a 'well regulated militia.' Nor was their actions necessary or justified given the gentleman the nut jobs were supporting (not really an adequate or accurate description of their actions but I am sure that any further clarification would escape your cognitive grasp) has now been shown to have lied about the tenuous right to graze his cattle on public lands by purposely distorting how long he has been there, and his family, to begin with.

The man is a squatter and is both a lier and a scoff law leach. No grand and glorious stand by a few good men took place.