Yeah, you're a terrorist.

[JohnR! 5,495]

Did anybody point a firearm at them?

Of course not. Nobody was shot by the police or otherwise... But it is always good to get all excited about nothing...

[Danno 1,228]

Did anybody point a firearm at them?

Wait, are you talking about "this time" or similar over reaches by the gov't where people were gunned down by their own Gov't?

There is a reason they withdrew and gave the cattle back..... it wasn't because they were on solid ground with the operation....just the opposite.

Q: The only thing I wonder is.... how far up the chain was the person who saw this developing and got on the horn, called down there and asked "What the F are you doing?"

"Shut this thing down before every gun nut in the country has a cause to assemble themselves by."

"Ok Mr president"

For once Obama showing leadership.

[JohnR! 5,495]

Wait, are you talking about "this time" or similar over reaches by the gov't where people were gunned down by their own Gov't?

Ah, yes... the terrorist police state in action at Kent State and Selma...

Edited April 22, 2014 by Gegel

[Danno 1,228]

Ah, yes... the terrorist police state in action at Kent State and Selma...

Make up your mind (again) are you for the police dealing with violent protesters or not?

Is bombing campuses and throwing rocks and bottles at security ok or not?

When you turn off the hippy music and watch a little more of the edited footage you realize, they were doing a lot more than putting flowers in the muzzles of the rifles.

But what did we learn from these upper middle class spoiled suburbanite sissies?

A: You don't go to a gun fight with just a poster.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Make up your mind (again) are you for the police dealing with violent protesters or not?

Is bombing campuses and throwing rocks and bottles at security ok or not?

When you turn off the hippy music and watch a little more of the edited footage you realize, they were doing a lot more than putting flowers in the muzzles of the rifles.

But what did we learn from these upper middle class spoiled suburbanite sissies?

A: You don't go to a gun fight with just a poster.

Instead they break the law carrying firearms across state lines to be used committing a felony. Lawless scum.

[Danno 1,228]

Instead they break the law carrying firearms across state lines to be used committing a felony. Lawless scum.

Wnat should the charges be and why is Obama not man enough to charge them?

[slim 1,533]

Since when is carrying a firearm across state lines a crime?

Also, it's important to note, providing overwatch for citizens engaged in lawful protest and security for families in danger are both defensive actions. As Americans, we've been authorized to use firearms for our own self defense since before we even had a country of our own.

[luckytxn 2,265]

We are not allowed to defend ourselves against the Feds.

Since when is carrying a firearm across state lines a crime?

Also, it's important to note, providing overwatch for citizens engaged in lawful protest and security for families in danger are both defensive actions. As Americans, we've been authorized to use firearms for our own self defense since before we even had a country of our own.

[Peikko 1,575]

We are not allowed to defend ourselves against the Feds.

That is a new definition of defense that I am not aware of apparently.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Wnat should the charges be and why is Obama not man enough to charge them?

They went to Nevada to obstruct justice. Obstructing justice is a felony. Carrying firearms across state lines to commit a felony is a federal crime. Why weren't they charged? Because the order of the day was to diffuse the situation. Cooler heads - that would be the federal government - prevailed.

Edited April 23, 2014 by Mr. Big Dog

[luckytxn 2,265]

Look. We are pretty much a police state now. To have to see citizens get riled up enough to bring arms to make sure that peaceful protesters are protected is insane. When citizens do come to protect peaceful protesters against a Federal armed force and they are called terrorists shows me that we are past the point of no return.

That is a new definition of defense that I am not aware of apparently.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Since when is carrying a firearm across state lines a crime?

Also, it's important to note, providing overwatch for citizens engaged in lawful protest and security for families in danger are both defensive actions. As Americans, we've been authorized to use firearms for our own self defense since before we even had a country of our own.

It isn't when it is done for lawful purposes. However, it is when it is done for unlawful purposes such as the obstruction of justice that these criminals planned with the guns they carried across state lines. They should be identified and brought up on federal charges. Every last one of them.

[luckytxn 2,265]

You are guessing. Now post some links to back your statement up.

They went to Nevada to obstruct justice. Obstructing justice is a felony. Carrying firearms across state lines to commit a felony is a federal crime. Why weren't they charged? Because the order of the day was to diffuse the situation. Cooler heads - that would be the federal government - prevailed.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

You are guessing. Now post some links to back your statement up.

I am not. What did they go to Nevada for? More importantly, what did they do in Nevada? That's right, they obstructed justice. That's not lawful. And they brought their firearms for that specific purpose. That's a felony under federal law.

Edited April 23, 2014 by Mr. Big Dog

[luckytxn 2,265]

You are the one making a false statement. Where did they obstruct justice? They were not obstructing justice when they crossed state lines. In fact nothing they did was illegal. You are just grandstanding. Now show the proof they did as you said.

I am not. What did they go to Nevada for? More importantly, what did they do in Nevada? That's right, they obstructed justice. That's not lawful.