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Hi guys,

I got my approval for the I-130 from the USCIS last week, so I'm starting to prepare the two NVC packets.

I put a lot of proof of the relationship in my original I-130 packet, but I know that I really need it for the next few steps.

My question is where do I put that evidence for the upcoming processes (NVC and Interview)? Should I include it with the AOS or IV packets? Should I just bring it with me to the interview? All of the above?

Thanks!

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
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The evidence you submitted with the file does not need to be included again. However, if you choose to do so, it should go with the IV package.

Regardless of whether or not you decide to include relationship evidence with the IV package AND regardless of whether or not you frontloaded; all evidence should be brought to the interview, even though none of it may be looked at.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Greece
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It would be of help to know which US embassy you will be going through.

Sending additional relationship evidence at the NVC stage is highly reccomended, almost required for MENA countries. The reason why people going through an MENA country need to 'side-load' their IV package is because there are many instances where a consular office has made up their mind to deny or approval a petition before the actual interview.

For low-fraud countries e.g EU countries, don't really need any evidence to be sent, but brought with you to the embassy for the interview.

CR1 Visa

USCIS
08/13/2013 -- I130 Sent
08/14/2013 -- I130 NOA1 (email)

02/20/2014 -- I130 NOA2 (189 days - email)

NVC

02-28-2014 -- NVC received
04-03-2014 -- NVC case number assigned

05-22-2014 -- Case completed!!!!!!!
05-30-2014 -- Interview scheduled for July 16th 2014 08:30am

05-31-2014 -- Interview Letter received
Embassy
06-24-2014 -- Medical

07-16-2014 -- Interview Approved!!!!!
07-21-2014 -- Visa in hand
09-24-2014 -- POE

 

ROC
09-09-2016 -- I-751 sent
09-17-2016 -- NOA received

10-14-2016 -- Biometric appointment

08-07-2017 -- New card ordered
08-10-2017 -- New card mailed ( still no approval letter)

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Nigeria
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Well definitely I want to side load,but want to make sure is done correctly with the right and proper evidence

Well definitely I want to side load,but want to make sure is done correctly with the right and proper evidence

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Hi,

When we went through this process we didn't include additional evidence with aos or iv applications. my husband took everything (all evidences) with him to the interview at the embassy. The co didn't look at anything,but better to be prepared in case the co asked for it.

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The NVC doesn't make any kind of decision. They just process the paperwork. The embassy is the one you need to prove something to. Take all evidence to the interview.

IMO you don't want to weigh down your NVC packages because it may get lost and take them more time to weed through and pick out what they really need.

I only sent what they asked for. You can read the first post on the NVC thread . All the info is there.

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The NVC doesn't make any kind of decision. They just process the paperwork. The embassy is the one you need to prove something to. Take all evidence to the interview.

IMO you don't want to weigh down your NVC packages because it may get lost and take them more time to weed through and pick out what they really need.

I only sent what they asked for. You can read the first post on the NVC thread . All the info is there.

I think you're missing what the purpose of side-loading is. NVC certainly won't look through it and do any approval/denials based off of it, but the entire case is then shipped to the embassy for the CO to review before the beneficiary even walks through the door on their interview day. Since so many refuse to look at what the beneficiary has brought in with them, it's a handy tip for people in MENA countries to front-load with USCIS, then side-load with NVC.

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Link to the evidence I submitted. Be sure to send evidence spanning your entire marriage (especially for K-1) or as far back as you can. Just one or two bank statements will not cut it. I primarily focused on the two years of living here since I came in on a CR-1. If you don't have the fundamentals (i.e. joint accounts/policies), you can explain why in the covering letter. E.g. "While we do not have joint utilities, we both contribute to them from our joint bank account".

 

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September 28th 2016: Package delivered
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I see the suggestions of front and side loading for beneficiaries in MENA countries. What about other countries that may be high fraud such as the Dominican Republic or other Central America countries? Also I'm a bit confused when I see folks say "no decisions" are made at the NVC but at the same time I believe I have seen plenty of RFEs for bona fide marriage coming from this step. Am I wrong here? Does only the USCIS ask for bona fide marriage evidence?

I hope its okay to ask this here on this thread as this is the same topic of front and side loading.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Greece
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I see the suggestions of front and side loading for beneficiaries in MENA countries. What about other countries that may be high fraud such as the Dominican Republic or other Central America countries? Also I'm a bit confused when I see folks say "no decisions" are made at the NVC but at the same time I believe I have seen plenty of RFEs for bona fide marriage coming from this step. Am I wrong here? Does only the USCIS ask for bona fide marriage evidence?

I hope its okay to ask this here on this thread as this is the same topic of front and side loading.

NVC don't send RFEs, they send checklists that either are for the AOS form and paperwork or the DS-260 and the civil documents. You wont receive a checklist for bonafide relationship evidence as it is not something they require you to submit.

NVC is only there to collect fee payments and to make sure that you have all the civil documents you are required to have and that you have filled in the I-864 correctly.

Any RFEs for relationship evidence is requested at USCIS and then at the embassy if they require it.

As for side-loading for your embassy, it is better to ask your question at the regional forum to get a more precise answer. If you know that your embassy is high-fraud, by all means send in more relationship evidence with your IV package. Just make sure it is 'new' evidence, not something you have already included with your I-130.

CR1 Visa

USCIS
08/13/2013 -- I130 Sent
08/14/2013 -- I130 NOA1 (email)

02/20/2014 -- I130 NOA2 (189 days - email)

NVC

02-28-2014 -- NVC received
04-03-2014 -- NVC case number assigned

05-22-2014 -- Case completed!!!!!!!
05-30-2014 -- Interview scheduled for July 16th 2014 08:30am

05-31-2014 -- Interview Letter received
Embassy
06-24-2014 -- Medical

07-16-2014 -- Interview Approved!!!!!
07-21-2014 -- Visa in hand
09-24-2014 -- POE

 

ROC
09-09-2016 -- I-751 sent
09-17-2016 -- NOA received

10-14-2016 -- Biometric appointment

08-07-2017 -- New card ordered
08-10-2017 -- New card mailed ( still no approval letter)

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