Statue Of A Homeless Jesus Startles A Wealthy Community

[Danno 1,228]

Really? That's interesting. It's a long time since I did any bible study but from what I remember, his adult life was spent wandering around Galilee talking to folks, mostly poor folks, but anyone who cared to listen really. He didn't work and relied on charitable contributions for bed and succour. Not sure how that isn't to all intents and purposes (as the article says) homeless. I am not sure why it matters to suggest he wasn't. I can't see why it's a problem that he was.

There is a difference between being a bum and being in route...or camping. Bums basically live off the scraps of society and produce nothing. We see nothing in scripture which associates Jesus and his disciples with this. I might be wrong, but I don't recall them seeking handouts from strangers. We do know the Apostles were all skilled persons in various trades which suggested they might have worked along the way. I do recall the events of them casting nets for fish which might have been for food or to sell.

Anyone who is familiar with Bums know they almost always have mental or substance abuse problems, there is a third group which, typically younger, which just wants to hang out and not work.

There is no connection.

If shock value was the goal.. to make people think I guess they scored. I think it would have been more realistic to portray Jesus as the party caring for the bum, not being one.

For some reason, many of us in the modern culture have a need or desire to Make Christ more like us, more human and more imperfect.....

I suppose that take less effort than to make ourselves more like him.

As a side note Davidson is a Beautiful small college town, growing rapidly though.

[Peikko 1,575]

There is a difference between being a bum and being in route...or camping. Bums basically live off the scraps of society and produce nothing. We see nothing in scripture which associates Jesus and his disciples with this. I might be wrong, but I don't recall them seeking handouts from strangers. We do know the Apostles were all skilled persons in various trades which suggested they might have worked along the way. I do recall the events of them casting nets for fish which might have been for food or to sell.

Anyone who is familiar with Bums know they almost always have mental or substance abuse problems, there is a third group which, typically younger, which just wants to hang out and not work.

There is no connection.

If shock value was the goal.. to make people think I guess they scored. I think it would have been more realistic to portray Jesus as the party caring for the bum, not being one.

For some reason, many of us in the modern culture have a need or desire to Make Christ more like us, more human and more imperfect.....

I suppose that take less effort than to make ourselves more like him.

As a side note Davidson is a Beautiful small college town, growing rapidly though.

Jesus was camping? I see. Well, whatever you want Danno, he's your son of god, not mine. Clearly, you think it is some kind of party Political statement. While I agree the message is political, that would be with a small p, not a big D.

FYI, the point about christ was indeed that he lived on the earth as a man, with man's imperfections, not as a god. I don't know what you study, but it's a funny type of christian message that you practice.

[Danno 1,228]

Jesus was camping? I see. Well, whatever you want Danno, he's your son of god, not mine. Clearly, you think it is some kind of party Political statement. While I agree the message is political, that would be with a small p, not a big D.

FYI, the point about christ was indeed that he lived on the earth as a man, with man's imperfections, not as a god. I don't know what you study, but it's a funny type of christian message that you practice.

I appreciate your approach to theology, I would get more from your lesson if you gave us something from which you base it on.

For instance, where did jesus routinely sleep in public places or take up collections from strangers?

The "imperfections" you mentioned, what were they?

[Peikko 1,575]

I appreciate your approach to theology, I would get more from your lesson if you gave us something from which you base it on.

For instance, where did jesus routinely sleep in public places or take up collections from strangers?

The "imperfections" you mentioned, what were they?

Seriously Danno, just go read the bible and see for yourself what's in it. I have no idea where you get your ideology from, but it's not the new testament.

[Danno 1,228]

Seriously Danno, just go read the bible and see for yourself what's in it. I have no idea where you get your ideology from, but it's not the new testament.

I expect a more serious effort than that.

You claim my understanding of the New testament is off, thats fair enough, now give me one example of Jesus sinning.

Where did He pass the hat to buy his supper?

[ready4ONE 5,400]

The only thing that is "shocking" is the notion that Jesus would be a shiftless bum in the land of opportunity.

I think the Casting would have been more accurate to have had a bum on the bench and Christ before him with his arm around him.

As opposed to Jesus being a crazy person who fancied himself the son of a mythical God and thought that after his death he would return during the lives of his audience?

Edited April 16, 2014 by ready4ONE

[JohnR! 5,495]

As opposed to Jesus being a crazy person who fancied himself the son of a mythical God and thought that after his death he would return during the lives of his audience?

I don't think for a second any of the swill dispensed at church bears any truth. Jesus could not even be bothered to write his own gospel, which pretty much tells us all that he couldn't care less about leaving a legacy. The books that were picked and chosen to be a part of the new testament are fabrications of years later and quite possibly were edited to suit the emerging christian church at the time. They are as real as any of the Greek gospels of gods atop mount Olympus.

Edited April 16, 2014 by Gegel

[B_J 2,752]

I don't think for a second any of the swill dispensed at church bears any truth. Jesus could not even be bothered to write his own gospel, which pretty much tells us all that he couldn't care less about leaving a legacy. The books that were picked and chosen to be a part of the new testament are fabrications of years later and quite possibly were edited to suit the emerging christian church at the time. They are as real as any of the Greek gospels of gods atop mount Olympus.

What's your opinion of Socrates?

[JohnR! 5,495]

What's your opinion of Socrates?

I support the scientific method derived from his works.

[B_J 2,752]

I support the scientific method derived from his works.

But, if I remember correctly, he didn't write anything either. Does that mean he couldn't care less about his legacy? I just didn't understand your focus on Jesus not writing.

[JohnR! 5,495]

But, if I remember correctly, he didn't write anything either. Does that mean he couldn't care less about his legacy? I just didn't understand your focus on Jesus not writing.

I hardly believe Socrates fancied himself nearly as important as what the apocrypha wishes to convey Jesus did.

[Danno 1,228]

I hardly believe Socrates fancied himself nearly as important as what the apocrypha wishes to convey Jesus did.

BUt do you stand by your point that not caring enough to write your own legacy..........

I believe you are taking over the roll of VJ contortionist.

[JohnR! 5,495]

BUt do you stand by your point that not caring enough to write your own legacy..........

I believe you are taking over the roll of VJ contortionist.

But I do stand on the point that Jesus did not care enough to leave anything in writing, what with him being son of some god and having an important mission and all... Which is pretty indicative that the entire NT is just another compilation of fairy tales. (As if the content of the stories were not enough evidence to that.)

I believe Socrates never fancied himself in that same role, however.

Edited April 16, 2014 by Gegel

[Danno 1,228]

But I do stand on the point that Jesus did not care enough to leave anything in writing, what with him being son of some god and having an important mission and all... Which is pretty indicative that the entire NT is just another compilation of fairy tales. (As if the content of the stories were not enough evidence to that.)

It would seem we both have a hankering for fairytales no?

Or do you need me to dredge up your old posts concerning All things Obama-care?

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I don't think for a second any of the swill dispensed at church bears any truth. Jesus could not even be bothered to write his own gospel, which pretty much tells us all that he couldn't care less about leaving a legacy. The books that were picked and chosen to be a part of the new testament are fabrications of years later and quite possibly were edited to suit the emerging christian church at the time. They are as real as any of the Greek gospels of gods atop mount Olympus.

Believers of Christianity would say that Jesus was the living word. Before then, the word became sterile and hardened. He preached that the law is written in our hearts and that law is quite simple - to love. His purpose was not to come up with writings like an edict. He instead used parables to help people understand how to love. It was completely radical then and even now. You don't need the Bible to tell you what to do, but the Gospels can offer us a better understanding of what it means to love.