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Here you on get Girl Scout Cookies in Schools, this sounds much more lucrative.

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In hind sight, my words were to harsh as for the conditions of her arrival as a child.

I still maintain she is in the position she is because of her actions and those of her family.

Kick her out, I'm betting there are a lot of teens in he home country which would have been a credit to her adopted community and not a drag.

It should not be encumbered on us as a nation to "afford every opportunity" of forgiveness to the immigrant, legal or otherwise.

These folks should be on their BEST behavior when they get here, I know I would if it were me.

First thing you need to do is, loose your cultural-supremacy.... sending people back home is not an unreasonable thing.

Her home is not Mexico. When you leave a place at 5 years old, you are not being sent back to your 'home' you are being sent to a country you do not know at all. She broke the law, it was stupid, and of course she should be punished as any teen who does the same type of crime should be but deporting her is a harsh penalty for a teenager. It is possible that she has extended family in Mexico who might welcome her, but if not if she is deported she would be destitute. Personally I think that's pretty cruel and unusual as penalties for selling hash brownies go. I am certainly not excusing her behaviour, by any manner of means but the punishment should really fit the crime, This doesn't.

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Her home is not Mexico. When you leave a place at 5 years old, you are not being sent back to your 'home' you are being sent to a country you do not know at all. She broke the law, it was stupid, and of course she should be punished as any teen who does the same type of crime should be but deporting her is a harsh penalty for a teenager. It is possible that she has extended family in Mexico who might welcome her, but if not if she is deported she would be destitute. Personally I think that's pretty cruel and unusual as penalties for selling hash brownies go. I am certainly not excusing her behaviour, by any manner of means but the punishment should really fit the crime, This doesn't.

She is not a child, she is of an age when many fly the nest.

Home is a subjective term but not unreasonably used in these circumstances.

She does not have any status in the US, she was allowed to stay here temporarily, through Executive Action. That Action only applied to non criminals.

I would imagine that even if she had a GC, Drug Dealing would have led to her departure.

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Her home is not Mexico. When you leave a place at 5 years old, you are not being sent back to your 'home' you are being sent to a country you do not know at all. She broke the law, it was stupid, and of course she should be punished as any teen who does the same type of crime should be but deporting her is a harsh penalty for a teenager. It is possible that she has extended family in Mexico who might welcome her, but if not if she is deported she would be destitute. Personally I think that's pretty cruel and unusual as penalties for selling hash brownies go. I am certainly not excusing her behaviour, by any manner of means but the punishment should really fit the crime, This doesn't.

If she is deported, then her immediate family will be responsible for her state of affairs. They brought her to this country illegally. If they choose not to support her back in her country of citizenship - their country of citizenship - then fine. Just don't ask me to feel sorry for her or her family.

Breaking the law has consequences. Stay law-abiding, or deal with them. :angry:

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So many here want to excuse a felony committed against minors in a place that we as a nation have chosen to make a safe environment for our children. I guess she could not read the signs, they are written in both American and Mexican. "ZONA ESCOLAR LIBRE DE LAS DROGAS!"

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They have done that.

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If she is deported, then her immediate family will be responsible for her state of affairs. They brought her to this country illegally. If they choose not to support her back in her country of citizenship - their country of citizenship - then fine. Just don't ask me to feel sorry for her or her family.

Breaking the law has consequences. Stay law-abiding, or deal with them. :angry:

Being responsible and having the means to provide are clearly not the same. She stays in the US, she has family support and the chances of her making good, pretty high. Deported, she will probably end up in a lot more trouble than she's in now. Good to know how compassionate the average VJ'er is :thumbs: I knew you would understand the humanitarian angle, the one that says that the average rich American who sold a few hash brownies would probably not even get a prison sentence, but the messican illegal, who cares? Deport it, we do not need scum like that in the US. Excellent. I don't care who you do or do not feel sorry for. I don't feel sorry for her or her family but I do expect the US to uphold certain humanitarian standards. Silly me!

So, throw open the prisons! Let them all go free! Some here don't want to protect children from those that would do them harm.

Yes, a teenage girl who sells a few hash brownies clearly needs to be locked away from our children for many, many years (or better yet in this instance, booted out of the good 'ol US) That's the ticket! Love it, brilliant, exactly what the US stands for.

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So, throw open the prisons! Let them all go free! Some here don't want to protect children from those that would do them harm.

Throw open the prisons???

There are more criminals walking around on the streets free than what are in jail! Thanks to judges who have sympathy for rich people who cannot so called survive in jail!

The Dupont guy who raped and molested his kids! Probation!

The kid who killed 4, let me repeat this, 4 people drunk driving! Probation.

This kid is getting sent back to a country that isn't her home. She probably can't even speak Spanish. All for wanting money to buy a prom dress?

She could have tried robbing a bank, a corner store, other people, but she instead tried working at a restaurant and selling some hash brownies on the side.

Wrong move but right idea!!! Work for what you want!

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she didn't just sell a few hash brownies, she also recruited 2 juveniles to assist her with her drug dealing enterprise..

You mean she is a Job Creator as well.

Throw open the prisons???

There are more criminals walking around on the streets free than what are in jail! Thanks to judges who have sympathy for rich people who cannot so called survive in jail!

The Dupont guy who raped and molested his kids! Probation!

The kid who killed 4, let me repeat this, 4 people drunk driving! Probation.

This kid is getting sent back to a country that isn't her home. She probably can't even speak Spanish. All for wanting money to buy a prom dress?

She could have tried robbing a bank, a corner store, other people, but she instead tried working at a restaurant and selling some hash brownies on the side.

Wrong move but right idea!!! Work for what you want!

She sold them at a School, well one at least.

Unfortunately the DuPont guy is not deportable.

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Teen immigrant faces deportation for selling pot brownies to buy fancy prom dress

A Mexican immigrant who entered the United States as a minor is facing the prospect of deportation because she was convicted for selling pot brownies at her high school to raise money for a prom dress she just had to have.

The immigrant, Saira Munoz, was busted a little over a year ago. She carried out her illicit bake sale on the campus of River Valley High School in Yuba City, Calif. (about 40 miles north of Sacramento).

Munoz, now 19, pleaded no contest to a felony charge of child endangerment and a misdemeanor charge of marijuana possession on school grounds in February of this year, reports the Appeal-Democrat.

Earlier this week, a judge sentenced Munoz to four years of probation and nine days in jail (with credit for time served).

When probation officers contacted Immigration Customs Enforcement prior to sentencing, they learned that Munoz has “temporary permission” to be in the United States. The pot-brownie conviction could cause that permission to be rescinded.

Munoz emigrated to the U.S. from Mexico in 2000—presumably with her family, as she was just 5 years old at the time.

At her sentencing hearing, the presiding judge told Munoz: “If you are departed, you must not return unless you do so legally. If you do return, you must check in with probation immediately.”

“I’m hoping you’ve learned your lesson,” he added, according to the Appeal-Democrat.

According to a probation report, Munoz admitted to selling the brownies when police arrested her. The entrepreneur said she had acquired the cannabis-laced treats from a friend, of course. She also said she hoped to sell enough of them to buy the perfect prom dress.

One of the students who consumed a brownie – allegedly just a small piece – ended up going to the hospital in an ambulance after saying her legs felt all tingly. The student worried that the brownies contained other, more nefarious illegal ingredients.

Munoz was 18 at the time of her arrest. Two minors received citations for assisting in the scheme. She had apparently hired those students to be part of her sales staff.

“It is unknown if the defendant will be deported,” a probation officer wrote in a report obtained by the Appeal-Democrat.

One of Munoz’s high school friends, Carlos Robles, told CBS News he thinks the possibility of deportation is way too harsh.

“People make mistakes,” Robles told CBS Sacramento. “She was just a very positive person.”

“There’s people that deserve to be deported, and she just wasn’t one of them,” Robles added. “There’s people that do way worse.”

Munoz currently works at a Yuba City area restaurant.

http://news.yahoo.com/teen-immigrant-faces-deportation-selling-pot-brownies-buy-193208226.html

That's a lot of pretty buzzwords, misused, in writing about an illegal alien.

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You mean she is a Job Creator as well.

She sold them at a School, well one at least.

Unfortunately the DuPont guy is not deportable.

I could be wrong, but I believe Janelle is pointing out that when there are stories of regular Americans that commit unspeakable crimes, the outrage here seems to be selective, to say the least. The same folks that are yelling deportation and criminal are strangely absent when it's just some joe the plumber type who rapes and murders someone.

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When probation officers contacted Immigration Customs Enforcement prior to sentencing, they learned that Munoz has “temporary permission” to be in the United States.

I know. Reading facts is not your thing. But, she understands the concept of working for what she wants, :rofl:

ya, all illegal alien children are given that, but usually no one chases after it.

it is given usually, in writing, at a BIA hearing. It's a 'given', otherwise.

It's supposed to stop at age 18.5, 6 months after the 18th birthday.

Still, this blows her DACA status, completely.

I wonder which tardo at ICE contacted which tardo at justice to get the skinny on what The Kenyan has recently promulgated inside of his administration.

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So she has DACA, not an Immigrant status.

And she is on top of Obama's must deport list.

If she is legal under DACA, prior,

well, she violated one of the things to re-apply for the next 2 year block,

but the slippery slope on her, is that she was arrested at age 18, and apparently treated as a minor in the courts.

IF she was treated as an adult in the courts she would be deportable, if the SENTENCE and RULING and CHARGE were not negotiated downward.

So because her parents brought her here illegally as a child it forgives the fact that she is here illegally and committing crimes?

No.

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