Black Toenails and Killer Chicken

[NikLR 13,232]

I do not see the point in baptisms. If a person chooses a religion when they are adults because that's what they want, then they should be able to. Whatever makes them feel fulfilled as a person.

I am not baptised. My daughter is not baptised. Last I checked, I get nothing but compliments on her behaviour when we're out with people. One does not need religion for right and wrong IMHO.

Edited April 13, 2014 by NLR

[N-o-l-a 7,168]

Confuse everyone - get the baby a silver st. alba cross on a silver chain.

It's morphed throughout the occupation and it's actually cool if'n you know the history behind it.

Plus it looks like an X, so other religions give it meaning also.

[that was my gift to my son, ages past, when he was babtised in the Church o England]

I was reading up on it. Interesting stuff.

Nola I have come to realize that ppl even here in the Bible Belt are weird beyond weird when it comes to Baptism. I decided I don't want Godparents for Lucas just to avoid more weirdness.

The thing is that the parents are in no ways religious at all but yet this is some kind of huge big deal. My mother was very Catholic, so my baptism was important, but I don't see the point when you aren't religious especially when people have already given you birth and Christmas gifts for the baby, know what I mean?

My mother, bless her heart, was upset that I wasn't baptizing my daughter but I'm not Christian, her father wasn't Christian, etc. Her friend, an intelligent scientist, told me that I ran the risk of the child going to hell. Tolerance doesn't run deep in our society apparently.

I guess I just approach things with too much of a conservative viewpoint for my husband.

[N-o-l-a 7,168]

I do not see the point in baptisms. If a person chooses a religion when they are adults because that's what they want, then they should be able to. Whatever makes them feel fulfilled as a person.

I am not baptised. My daughter is not baptised. Last I checked, I get nothing but compliments on her behaviour when we're out with people. One does not need religion for right and wrong IMHO.

Lutherans and Catholics baptize at birth, so I am totally understanding if the parents feel that that is an important part of their faith. What I don't get is parents who don't go to church and who don't live Christian lives needing to baptize. It doesn't make any sense to me. Their child, their choice, but I don't really want to be complicit in it.

For the record, I chose not to do a "paganing" or a naming ceremony for my daughter, because my religious beliefs strongly dictate that the father must be involved in such a ceremony. Modernists can sidestep that however they want, but without paternal acknowledgment the ceremony is meaningless in our faith.

[NikLR 13,232]

I guess I do understand for devout people who baptize, but so many people do it, like you said, who've never spent a day in church in their life. Just seems like a money/present grab to me.

Funny part is, I'm not religious but that doesn't mean I'm not spiritual. Doesn't mean I don't believe in a higher being (or beings) or that something happens after we die. But as soon as you tell someone you don't believe in God or that you're not religious, they instantly think you're atheist.

[Novembro 1,763]

who's having a little rugrat?

[N-o-l-a 7,168]

who's having a little rugrat?

Everyone except me apparently.

*all aboard the self pity train*

[Novembro 1,763]

Everyone except me apparently.

*all aboard the self pity train*

Me either.

One ticket, please!

[N-o-l-a 7,168]

I guess I do understand for devout people who baptize, but so many people do it, like you said, who've never spent a day in church in their life. Just seems like a money/present grab to me.

Funny part is, I'm not religious but that doesn't mean I'm not spiritual. Doesn't mean I don't believe in a higher being (or beings) or that something happens after we die. But as soon as you tell someone you don't believe in God or that you're not religious, they instantly think you're atheist.

Or an attention thing.

That might be a location thing, because here in liberal land, there are a lot of spiritual, not religious folks. Maybe it is just me, but I never assume that just because someone isn't into a mainstream faith that they aren't feeling some sort of connection to the divine. Plus, for a lot of people it ebbs and flows, beliefs aren't this forever and always thing.

What I always find interesting is the people who already into really symbol heavy faiths, maybe based a little on some Roman paganism, who have difficulty relating to my also symbol and ritual heavy faith. God bless the Jews for getting it though. If not for paganism, I would have definitely been a Jew.

[N-o-l-a 7,168]

Me either.

One ticket, please!

Yeah, well if I'm not knocked up by year's end, the Dane can ship his ### back home. Too much #######, not enough good right now.

[Novembro 1,763]

Yeah, well if I'm not knocked up by year's end, the Dane can ship his #### back home. Too much #######, not enough good right now.

Hugs.

[NikLR 13,232]

omg check out an app called SMULE - Magic piano. I wish my tablet was working. Taking it to get it fixed this week!!!

[N-o-l-a 7,168]

omg check out an app called SMULE - Magic piano. I wish my tablet was working. Taking it to get it fixed this week!!!

That looks like fun!

Hugs.

Well, TBH, I've been ready to give up all along, but has just held on and held on. He is a good man, but things just don't work between us most of the time. It seems to be more strained lately. He wants to wait and see if moving into our own house again will help, but I'm not convinced.

Seriously, I've just made the thread all somber.

[Novembro 1,763]

That looks like fun!

Well, TBH, I've been ready to give up all along, but has just held on and held on. He is a good man, but things just don't work between us most of the time. It seems to be more strained lately. He wants to wait and see if moving into our own house again will help, but I'm not convinced.

Seriously, I've just made the thread all somber.

Aren't you then locked in for the future with a house? I'm sorry lady. Sounds really shitty. Have you tried counseling? I know that's not an answer for everyone, so feel free not to answer.

[NikLR 13,232]

Considering how much of an issue it was living with your mother. I think trying in your own place would be a good idea. I also agree with counselling. Sometimes you need a 3rd person, but that only works if everyone wants it to.

[N-o-l-a 7,168]

Aren't you then locked in for the future with a house? I'm sorry lady. Sounds really shitty. Have you tried counseling? I know that's not an answer for everyone, so feel free not to answer.

Well our post-nuptial dictates the house is mine and only my name will be on the deed, so I have some freedom with that.

Counseling I don't think will work for us, actually statistically it rarely works for anyone.

Nah, we just had a deal and expectations when we got married. Neither of us is really holding up our end of the deal. It isn't a particularly bad marriage, 'cuz I've had one of those, but it is sort of neither of us getting what we need. I'm not sure that is divorce worthy, but I certainly could do with a long break.

Honestly, we should have both waited until we were done with school before we got married. He's slightly resentful he didn't get to finish his education and the many hours I spent talking to him caused me to waste about 2 years of school. There is also just a lot of resentment on my part over his infertility. Also, this whole thing with his nightmare of a sister has ###### with our relationship ever since, still is.