After the "more evidence required" embassy result

[Iyawo Ayodele 4]

our Interview was 19 March 2014

I didn't think anything would go wrong, how could it? nothing about us matched the scam profile, we are in our 40's! we have a long relationship, piles and piles of evidence,

I guess they had an issue with the fact that i'd been married before,

to a Nigerian

that I had to remove support from.

well, I can't blame them i guess. they deal with scams so much they are likely to make a lot of mistakes.

Well this one was costly. it is so expensive doing this, but what choice do I have?

I'd go live in Lagos if I could, in fact I wish I could, but my two boys here would NOT understand, I'd bring them along but their Dad would NOT understand...so my only choice is to bring Ayo here, so I have to keep fighting.

I got hold of the NVC today to see if the file had arrived back from the Embassy yet, it haddn't.

the lady wouldn't even give me a general guess for a time frame :-(

but she did say that they will follow the EMBASSY INSTRUCTIONS that they wrote on the file, and MOST TIMES they say to return the file to the USCIS for CLOSURE....... don't know if ours says that, but our advisor here at VJ said most of them do...

the NVC operator said to email the embassy to see when they mailed it or will mail it. so i'll bug them until they confirm it mailed then bug the NVC again.

our advisor here on VJ advised that i should have married him when i was still there, and I'm KICKING myself for not making my embassy report until I had gotten back here in the states! AAAUGH!!!!! I had both the TIME and MONEY when I was there this last time.

WELL, nothing for it but to go back!

because I have almost no hope at all that those instructions say anything different then "close the case"

But WHY did they give us a "more evidence required" letter if they want to just close the case?!?! why didn't they just say DENIED???

but i think DENIED would have been worse, then I'd have to tell the USCIS that we'd had a visa denied before, and as it is, now we don't, it wasn't denied, just returned, and may be closed, so

Step 1 save the money fastest possible to get my behind back to Lagos!

step 2 marry Ayo as I should have in March! ( or even to begin with!!)

step 3 apply for I-130 and let them deal with THAT!! I WILL bring my HUSBAND HOME!!!!

Morgan Ife Ayodele

Teresa Morgan

[His Glory 25]

our Interview was 19 March 2014

I didn't think anything would go wrong, how could it? nothing about us matched the scam profile, we are in our 40's! we have a long relationship, piles and piles of evidence,

I guess they had an issue with the fact that i'd been married before,

to a Nigerian

that I had to remove support from.

well, I can't blame them i guess. they deal with scams so much they are likely to make a lot of mistakes.

Well this one was costly. it is so expensive doing this, but what choice do I have?

I'd go live in Lagos if I could, in fact I wish I could, but my two boys here would NOT understand, I'd bring them along but their Dad would NOT understand...so my only choice is to bring Ayo here, so I have to keep fighting.

I got hold of the NVC today to see if the file had arrived back from the Embassy yet, it haddn't.

the lady wouldn't even give me a general guess for a time frame :-(

but she did say that they will follow the EMBASSY INSTRUCTIONS that they wrote on the file, and MOST TIMES they say to return the file to the USCIS for CLOSURE....... don't know if ours says that, but our advisor here at VJ said most of them do...

the NVC operator said to email the embassy to see when they mailed it or will mail it. so i'll bug them until they confirm it mailed then bug the NVC again.

our advisor here on VJ advised that i should have married him when i was still there, and I'm KICKING myself for not making my embassy report until I had gotten back here in the states! AAAUGH!!!!! I had both the TIME and MONEY when I was there this last time.

WELL, nothing for it but to go back!

because I have almost no hope at all that those instructions say anything different then "close the case"

But WHY did they give us a "more evidence required" letter if they want to just close the case?!?! why didn't they just say DENIED???

but i think DENIED would have been worse, then I'd have to tell the USCIS that we'd had a visa denied before, and as it is, now we don't, it wasn't denied, just returned, and may be closed, so

Step 1 save the money fastest possible to get my behind back to Lagos!

step 2 marry Ayo as I should have in March! ( or even to begin with!!)

step 3 apply for I-130 and let them deal with THAT!! I WILL bring my HUSBAND HOME!!!!

Morgan Ife Ayodele

Teresa Morgan

wish the best for you. hope all your new plans work out for you. sorry about the disappointment.

[NigeriaorBust 4,087]

You shouldn't listening to people here that pretend to practice immigration law without a proper licence . Second filing no matter the visa type are almost always successful.

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

our Interview was 19 March 2014

I didn't think anything would go wrong, how could it? nothing about us matched the scam profile, we are in our 40's! we have a long relationship, piles and piles of evidence,

I guess they had an issue with the fact that i'd been married before,

to a Nigerian

that I had to remove support from.

well, I can't blame them i guess. they deal with scams so much they are likely to make a lot of mistakes.

Well this one was costly. it is so expensive doing this, but what choice do I have?

I'd go live in Lagos if I could, in fact I wish I could, but my two boys here would NOT understand, I'd bring them along but their Dad would NOT understand...so my only choice is to bring Ayo here, so I have to keep fighting.

I got hold of the NVC today to see if the file had arrived back from the Embassy yet, it haddn't.

the lady wouldn't even give me a general guess for a time frame :-(

but she did say that they will follow the EMBASSY INSTRUCTIONS that they wrote on the file, and MOST TIMES they say to return the file to the USCIS for CLOSURE....... don't know if ours says that, but our advisor here at VJ said most of them do...

the NVC operator said to email the embassy to see when they mailed it or will mail it. so i'll bug them until they confirm it mailed then bug the NVC again.

our advisor here on VJ advised that i should have married him when i was still there, and I'm KICKING myself for not making my embassy report until I had gotten back here in the states! AAAUGH!!!!! I had both the TIME and MONEY when I was there this last time.

WELL, nothing for it but to go back!

because I have almost no hope at all that those instructions say anything different then "close the case"

But WHY did they give us a "more evidence required" letter if they want to just close the case?!?! why didn't they just say DENIED???

but i think DENIED would have been worse, then I'd have to tell the USCIS that we'd had a visa denied before, and as it is, now we don't, it wasn't denied, just returned, and may be closed, so

Step 1 save the money fastest possible to get my behind back to Lagos!

step 2 marry Ayo as I should have in March! ( or even to begin with!!)

step 3 apply for I-130 and let them deal with THAT!! I WILL bring my HUSBAND HOME!!!!

Morgan Ife Ayodele

Teresa Morgan

Having been married before to someone who seemed to have used you is a red flag and could be the problem.

Another problem could be that you have not visited enough, Lagos likes face to face time and lots of visits.

You had more than enough communication evidence and not enough visits is my guess and yes, they want to make absolutely sure you won't

be used again and are sure of your relationship.

It was good that you came along for the interview and I understand you can't attend the interview itself but why did you not

rattle their cages and inquired from the 'other side' of the embassy where you could have entered and asked to speak to the chief consul ?

You need to get a congressman a.s.a.p to get the diplomatic pouch number of the returned petition so it can be more easily tracked

when you make calls to ask questions down the road to USCIS.

A senator/congressman needs to inquire on your behalf and push for a second interview with 'more' evidence since that is what they requested.

Have him inquire exactly what kind of evidence they want to see since you presented stacks of proof already that wasn't looked at.

More than likely this will be a long shot and not bring desired results but it's worth a try. Since their wording is so off the normal return

process in the letter, explain to your congressman/senator exactly how to do the inquiry since the aid will not be enlightened

enough to catch that himself nor know which specific questions to ask.

Questions to ask are :

1. Why was presented evidence not looked at but a request letter for evidence given ? Contradiction !

2. Requesting a second interview, beneficiary has requested evidence of bona fide relationship (bring the kitchen sink).

3. NVC does not re approve a returned petition, USCIS does. CSC will not review so why the mentioning of NVC re approval ? Nonsense.

The above issues need to be pointed out like a laser beam by your representative. Their explanation is hog wash.( I read your review)

4. Diplomatic pouch number if case has been returned already.

The way they wrote up the return process is nuts.

Again....

NVC is only a short stop for the return to USCIS where it will be expired and dead after 6 months by your service center CSC.

NVC will not re approve a returned petition, they only route it to USCIS.

USCIS is the only agency that can DENY or EXPIRE your petition. The embassy can not deny, that is why they did not say they denied it.

Technically the embassy can only REFUSE to issue the visa.

You have to deal with USCIC which is fruitless, CSC does not reaffirm petitions for a K1.

I would make plans to marry in Nigeria and file a CR1. That is pretty much your only option, besides the long shot through a

congressman like yesterday if it's not too late already. If it already left the post then it's dead.

[Princess Z 0]

Hi Morgan,

My fiance had his K-1 interview on March 19th also. He said you and your fiance were standing in front of him. He got approved. It was our second K-1 application. The first one was denied, (no bonafide relationship according to the embassy). Last year June we sent out another I-129F application and was approved in October. Just be strong, it will be over soon. Don't give up. God bless.

[Princess Z 0]

Morgan,

I think the reason why our first K-1 visa was denied was because I visited Nigeria once before filing and the first visit was not even up to a week. After our first K-1 visa was denied in January 2012, I visited Nigeria again about two to three times before sending out another application last year June. We included all our pictures from my four visits to Nigeria- pictures with family and friends in the application we sent in June. The CO did not even ask for any additional evidence at the interview. Honestly, I give all glory to God. Put your trust in Him and He will do the same for you.

[Iyawo Ayodele 4]

Having been married before to someone who seemed to have used you is a red flag and could be the problem.

Another problem could be that you have not visited enough, Lagos likes face to face time and lots of visits.

You had more than enough communication evidence and not enough visits is my guess and yes, they want to make absolutely sure you won't

be used again and are sure of your relationship.

It was good that you came along for the interview and I understand you can't attend the interview itself but why did you not

rattle their cages and inquired from the 'other side' of the embassy where you could have entered and asked to speak to the chief consul ?

You need to get a congressman a.s.a.p to get the diplomatic pouch number of the returned petition so it can be more easily tracked

when you make calls to ask questions down the road to USCIS.

A senator/congressman needs to inquire on your behalf and push for a second interview with 'more' evidence since that is what they requested.

Have him inquire exactly what kind of evidence they want to see since you presented stacks of proof already that wasn't looked at.

More than likely this will be a long shot and not bring desired results but it's worth a try. Since their wording is so off the normal return

process in the letter, explain to your congressman/senator exactly how to do the inquiry since the aid will not be enlightened

enough to catch that himself nor know which specific questions to ask.

Questions to ask are :

1. Why was presented evidence not looked at but a request letter for evidence given ? Contradiction !

2. Requesting a second interview, beneficiary has requested evidence of bona fide relationship (bring the kitchen sink).

3. NVC does not re approve a returned petition, USCIS does. CSC will not review so why the mentioning of NVC re approval ? Nonsense.

The above issues need to be pointed out like a laser beam by your representative. Their explanation is hog wash.( I read your review)

4. Diplomatic pouch number if case has been returned already.

The way they wrote up the return process is nuts.

Again....

NVC is only a short stop for the return to USCIS where it will be expired and dead after 6 months by your service center CSC.

NVC will not re approve a returned petition, they only route it to USCIS.

USCIS is the only agency that can DENY or EXPIRE your petition. The embassy can not deny, that is why they did not say they denied it.

Technically the embassy can only REFUSE to issue the visa.

You have to deal with USCIC which is fruitless, CSC does not reaffirm petitions for a K1.

I would make plans to marry in Nigeria and file a CR1. That is pretty much your only option, besides the long shot through a

congressman like yesterday if it's not too late already. If it already left the post then it's dead.

I didn't know that was possible! I wanted SOOOO much to STOMP in there, and rattle a LOT of cages! but my Husband (Fiance) always the calm cool collected guy, hugged and petted and shuushed me till i calmed down, he's getting very good at calming my Irish temper. he said i'd only get in trouble, but neither of us knew it was possible to go arround anywhere to get in,

I know NOW, and next time I will go there when he's inside and make myself SEEN and HEARD so they know i'm there for my husband! I just pray the next person who reads this kknows to do what i didn't konw!

Thank you so much for your insight, I am planning my trip back as soon as Humanly possible.

I'll let everyone know when i'm going back just in case there are VJ members there to attend it!