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HOw many people were in that study and name the person who headed it up and what there agenda driven background consists of.

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You don't even have to research to know that is BS

Almost every company screens even the most menial of jobs, for back ground. It is notoriously hard for a convicted felon to land a job. If this were true there would be no black cops, bankers, Govt workers, No blacks in the military etc etc etc.

Such utter BS

What's sad is some people buy into this propaganda and it feeds their own anger and acceptance of the hobbled black theory

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Maybe one day we can judge people by the content of their heart and not their skin color, but as long as someone has it pounded in them from day one, that every time they fail it is someone else s fault, they will never succeed or learn from their mistakes.

That was "The dream" we all supported 2 decades ago.

"The Dream" is not right around the corner, in fact it is only by faith we see any evidence of it at all because things we now deem as "success" are so often props.

While many people of all races enjoy success it is only from a distance to reality can one believe the masses of Blacks for example are on the verge of breaking into the middle class.... in a color blind society.

To go to a the COLOR BLIND SOCIETY we believe in ....would lead to serious social unrest.

Imagine for five minutes if

-College entrance were "color blind."

-Government employment was "color Blind."

-Corporations did away with hiring/promotion goals based on race.

-Diversity Programs were actually based on diversity of individuals and not race.

-Housing loans, SB Loans, were not earmarked for targeted racial groups under race or de facto race categories. (Urban, underprivileged, Historically disadvantaged etc).

-How stark would the difference of school performance be if the billions spent on Busing dried up and kids when to school in their own neighborhoods?

-If the additional money going to minority schools under a wide range of code names and methods dried up and their funding was on par with other schools.

-If All Gov't contracts, Fed, State and Local were awarded on a color-blind basis.

-If "White or Euro-Culture" was as celebrated as Black Culture or Hispanic Culture or Asian Culture.

-If we did away with unique race based history days, weeks and months.

-If all job promotions and advancements were free of presenting a good corporate photo and instead strictly based on a color blind formula.

-If people actually picked their housing based on location rather than the color of the person who lives there or the composition of the student body at the schools their kids will attend.

-If CPI commercials showed the burglar as non-white just once :dancing:

The reality is we will NEVER have a color blind society... because race matters, if it doesn't matter to you, you need only look around to see it does matter to everyone else, especially minorities (naturally).

Yeah I know people get pissed off when I ask questions but let me ask, does anyone here think in their lifetime we would ever see a truly "color blind" society?

As I said before I think this goal of a "color blind" or a race neutral society only serves to set us up for failure as it is a unreasonable goal.

And who gets the blame when the goal is not met?

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As a multi racial country we need to have realist expectations or we doom ourselves to conflict.

As always, realistic expectations are much more complex and difficult than are "dreams" but we should not be afraid to have these conversations, to look at those groups falling behind and realize when they fail, we all are diminished.

The first thing we need to do is refrain from the blame game.

No nation ever found tranquility in that method.

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"Those people who will not be governed by God


will be ruled by tyrants."



William Penn

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Your statement about there are two types of Black families rubbed me the wrong way, coming from someone who is not Black. You don't know anything about Black people. You have no Black friends. You probably never grew up around Black people. You probably never lived with any Black families. SO like I said before please, share with us all your Black experience that entitles YOU to pontificate on how Black people should raise their kids. No because you can't. You're just like the rest of these idiots on here (about a handful most people are decent), who get on this forum and spew their racist BS and get mad when someone checks them.

I don't have faulty thinking. Everything I have said to you is in direct response to your own words. Shall I start quoting your arrogance ok lets do it:

1. "many blacks have bad credit (yes, generalization--sorry, I'm trying to make a point),"

2. "They didn't hang on the street all night smoking weed."

3. "until blacks stop feling sorry for themselves and stop blaming whites for their problems"

4. "I'm simply stating the well-known fact (one you seem to deny) that from birth, many black parents drill into their kids that they will be held down and oppressed by the "white man"

Now to me when I run into arrogant White people who start putting down Blacks, I take that as a sign of someone who feels as though they have some type "god" complex, or trying to demonstrate that they are better than another group. So like I said what gives you the authority to make such blanket statements? Saying

"many" Blacks have bad credit, so what many Whites don't have bad credit? Do you have any data to back that claim up? I know it doesn't apply to me i am about 4 or 5 points from a perfect credit score.

Hanging out all night smoking weed? That's funny because from my personal experience, growing up and even as an adult, the majority of people I knew who have done drugs were White people. Once again you are stereotyping an entire race of people with your blind statements. So are you saying that White people don't hang out all night smoking weed? I never hung out all night smoking weed or drinking or using any other drugs.

Blacks feel sorry for themselves and blame whites for their problems. Ok where? who? Have you happen to meet every Black person in this country who has a problem and interviewed them to see if they have blamed someone White for their problem? Where do you get this stuff from? Oh wait ITS A KNOWN FACT right?

Which brings me to your next idiotic statement about ITS A KNOWN FACT that from birth Black parents drill into their kids they are being held down by the "white man". Where do you get this? Seriously did you have sleep overs with Black kids when you were growing up and you happened to witness this?

So I call you on your arrogance...yes your "I'm White and high and mighty past judgement on Black people with blind sweeping statements" and you call me a racist?

Fine so be it.

Yours Truly, Jinx X

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I agree that you don't have a chip on your shoulder, you have a slab of concrete.

Funny how you put me down for making assumptions about blacks, yet you seem to have no problem making them about whites (specifically me). Even though I don't need to justify myself to you in any way, I'll tell you a little bit about myself, just for sh*ts and giggles. I know this will not change your opinion of me, nothing would, as long as I'm white. And I'm ok with that. Maybe I'll get some street cred. :thumbs:

You have no black friends. - WRONG. One of my best friends is black and so is his fiancee, and my wife and I are going to his wedding. They are getting married in a Baptist church in Harlem, and the reception is in Adam Clayton Powell Jr. State Office Building on 125th Street. It will be mostly black people. Geepers, I hope I can control my racism around all those blacks. :help:

You probably never grew up around black people- WRONG. Contrary to your belief that all whites grew up in gated communities in the suburbs, I grew up in downtown Brooklyn (NY), in a neighborhood made up of Puerto Ricans and blacks, and few Euro immigrants.

You never lived with black people - GUILTY AS CHARGED. I tried to move in with a black family in my neighborhood once but they called me "white boy" and told me to leave. :rofl: Every white person should have to live with a black family to give them credibility when it comes to discussing racial relations. :rolleyes:

As for the 4 statements of mine that you highlighted in red, none of them are false. You may not like them or agree with them, but that doesn't make them false. It doesn't make them true, just because I (whitey with "god" complex--that's funny btw) said it, either. I think people (all the idiots on this forum as you said, with the exception of a handful of decent people--are any of them white?) can decide for themselves. Or are they not allowed to and must agree with your assertion?

As for the weed comments, I don't know where you grew up, but in my neighborhood, most of the black late teens would play ball during the day, then hang on the stoop at night or in front of a bodega drinking 40's and smoking weed. That's not a streotype, that's what I saw with my 2 (albeit white) eyes.

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I know some one who owed money to the mob.. He so liked to gamble. He decided he would not pay his debt. They blew his car up. Next day he found the money. What will they do to an informant ... ?

:rofl: You have a lot of stories of people you "know"..

Is this the same as the "family owned" local grocery store you know of with over 1000 employees?

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I agree that you don't have a chip on your shoulder, you have a slab of concrete.

Funny how you put me down for making assumptions about blacks, yet you seem to have no problem making them about whites (specifically me). Even though I don't need to justify myself to you in any way, I'll tell you a little bit about myself, just for sh*ts and giggles. I know this will not change your opinion of me, nothing would, as long as I'm white. And I'm ok with that. Maybe I'll get some street cred. :thumbs:

You have no black friends. - WRONG. One of my best friends is black and so is his fiancee, and my wife and I are going to his wedding. They are getting married in a Baptist church in Harlem, and the reception is in Adam Clayton Powell Jr. State Office Building on 125th Street. It will be mostly black people. Geepers, I hope I can control my racism around all those blacks. :help:

You probably never grew up around black people- WRONG. Contrary to your belief that all whites grew up in gated communities in the suburbs, I grew up in downtown Brooklyn (NY), in a neighborhood made up of Puerto Ricans and blacks, and few Euro immigrants.

You never lived with black people - GUILTY AS CHARGED. I tried to move in with a black family in my neighborhood once but they called me "white boy" and told me to leave. :rofl: Every white person should have to live with a black family to give them credibility when it comes to discussing racial relations. :rolleyes:

As for the 4 statements of mine that you highlighted in red, none of them are false. You may not like them or agree with them, but that doesn't make them false. It doesn't make them true, just because I (whitey with "god" complex--that's funny btw) said it, either. I think people (all the idiots on this forum as you said, with the exception of a handful of decent people--are any of them white?) can decide for themselves. Or are they not allowed to and must agree with your assertion?

As for the weed comments, I don't know where you grew up, but in my neighborhood, most of the black late teens would play ball during the day, then hang on the stoop at night or in front of a bodega drinking 40's and smoking weed. That's not a streotype, that's what I saw with my 2 (albeit white) eyes.

You make as many assumptions about me as you claim I make about you. Your level of arrogance is amazing, so now you are trying to tell me what my beliefs are? I have lived, studied, traveled around the world and have met and shared experiences with diverse groups of people since I was a youth.

You make the assumption of an entire race of people who you know nothing about. Don't care if you have a token Black friend. Good for you. Based on your stereotyping it is evident to me you need to get out of your environment and do some traveling.

Maybe if you met Black people who are affluent and didn't grow up playing basketball, smoking weed, drinking 40s on the stoop you would have a greater appreciation when you come across someone like me. Instead you attack me and lump me in with your close minded view of the world.

You've done nothing but try to throw your aversions of Blacks onto me. I have no problem with any group of people based on their racial, cultural identity. I do have a problem with people who think their chit don't stink and try to tell me what is wrong with Black people in this case. Whatever issues there are in the Black community that need to be addressed they are will be addressed, don't need you or Danno or lostinblue to tell us what is wrong. Like I said before, clean up your own house first before trying to come to mine and tell me how to clean.......

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You make as many assumptions about me as you claim I make about you. Your level of arrogance is amazing, so now you are trying to tell me what my beliefs are? I have lived, studied, traveled around the world and have met and shared experiences with diverse groups of people since I was a youth.

You make the assumption of an entire race of people who you know nothing about. Don't care if you have a token Black friend. Good for you. Based on your stereotyping it is evident to me you need to get out of your environment and do some traveling.

Maybe if you met Black people who are affluent and didn't grow up playing basketball, smoking weed, drinking 40s on the stoop you would have a greater appreciation when you come across someone like me. Instead you attack me and lump me in with your close minded view of the world.

You've done nothing but try to throw your aversions of Blacks onto me. I have no problem with any group of people based on their racial, cultural identity. I do have a problem with people who think their chit don't stink and try to tell me what is wrong with Black people in this case. Whatever issues there are in the Black community that need to be addressed they are will be addressed, don't need you or Danno or lostinblue to tell us what is wrong. Like I said before, clean up your own house first before trying to come to mine and tell me how to clean.......

Ah, I think I get it now. So now that we established that I do know black people, I don't know the right black people. I need to go out and meet so affluent black people. I'll try to set a meet with Bill Cosby or somebody.

By the way, "my token black friend" (we whites all have that one black friend to prove we're not racist right?-- what if I have two? is one of them a token? :rofl: ) makes more than your whole affluent family combined. He's one of the top evaluators on wall street.

You are very good at choosing your words... you have no problem with any group of people based on their racial/cultural identity, but you have a problem with people whose "chit don't stink" ... and since you think ALL whites think this way, you have a problem with white people. :wow:

"you would have a greater appreciation when you come across someone like me"--- who's got the 'god' complex now? :rolleyes:

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Ah, I think I get it now. So now that we established that I do know black people, I don't know the right black people. I need to go out and meet so affluent black people. I'll try to set a meet with Bill Cosby or somebody.

By the way, "my token black friend" (we whites all have that one black friend to prove we're not racist right?-- what if I have two? is one of them a token? :rofl: ) makes more than your whole affluent family combined. He's one of the top evaluators on wall street.

You are very good at choosing your words... you have no problem with any group of people based on their racial/cultural identity, but you have a problem with people whose "chit don't stink" ... and since you think ALL whites think this way, you have a problem with white people. :wow:

"you would have a greater appreciation when you come across someone like me"--- who's got the 'god' complex now? :rolleyes:

Man I don't know where you keep getting these notions I have something against White people as a whole - I have people in my family that are White and or Bi-racial. I'm like 1/4th Irish, my mothers maiden name is distinctly an Irish last name. I will admit I may come off as heavy handed with some of my language but put yourself in my shoes. There are only what 2 other Black people who post on this sub-forum frequently (Marvin & Janelle) Half the posts on here are "Black people....this" "Black people...that" So yeah I do get defensive when I read a bunch of stereotypical BS. There are a handful of loud mouths on here that love to fuel that fire. We're usually "Always outnumbered, Always outgunned"

But back to your message - so we're either basketball playing, 40 drinking weed smokers or Bill Cosby? How about you just don't "judge" an entire race of people based on your own (admittedly) limited experiences. Here is a clue, <insert race> people are all different. Not all Asians are good in math and science, I have known plenty that sucked at it. Not all Black people know how to dance (like me). Not all White people are racists. So when you say things like "its a known fact that Blacks...." is ignorant and stereotypical. Based on the examples you gave, you still have no idea what Black parents teach their kids to enumerate two distinct beliefs that they are passing down. How can you even begin to rationalize that statement? You can believe whatever you want to believe, doesn't mean it's true.

And all your bragging about working on wall street and your friend having more money than my family, I really don't care. If you're that insecure you have to get on a forum and talk about how much bank your "friend" has then you got bigger issues than worrying about what Black people teach their kids...just my opinion.

 

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