Fort Hood gun store again linked to base rampage

[Sousuke 1,214]

So, do you think that arming everyone in Chicago, Baltimore and Oakland is the solution to violent crime?

No way! No one should arm anyone. It should be a persons choice, but people should be allowed to make it.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Yet, less and less people own guns.

Math is hard!

The thing is that less and less people hoard more and more guns. That is what makes them so foncused.

[LibCampFireClub 635]

And what about the kids? The 7 year old selling lemonade in front of her yard? The 2 year old shot through her front door while she's sleeping on the couch? The teenage kids being shot while taking out the trash?

Unfortunate things happen every day, even when people are being very careful, there are still accidents. But, the alternative of facing someone trying to kill you or your family and being unarmed while you watch them die isn't the only option. Yes, you can wring hands and look for other alternatives, but lets face it, there are crazy people out there who will kill without remorse. Owning a gun in today's America is by far the best option.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Unfortunate things happen every day, even when people are being very careful, there are still accidents. But, the alternative of facing someone trying to kill you or your family and being unarmed while you watch them die isn't the only option. Yes, you can wring hands and look for other alternatives, but lets face it, there are crazy people out there who will kill without remorse. Owning a gun in today's America is by far the best option.

And here's where we disagree. The best option is to create more jobs. To provide better education. To raise our children better so they're not choosing to live that type of life.

If you treat the disease, you win or lose. If you treat the patient, you win, no matter the outcome. Patch Adams.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

A = gun owner

B = violent crime committer

C = bullets

D = trigger

'A' inserts 'C' into clip on way to convenience store

'B' attempts to hold up convenience store at gunpoint with 'A' present and 'B' and 'C' in tow

'A' holds weapon with two-handed grip pointed center mass at 'B'

'B' quickly turns

'A' pulls 'D'

'B' falls to floor dead on arrival

Basic math

You fail to give me a source that directly relates gun ownership to a decrease in crime. If it's so basic and so accurate, surely you can dig something up.

[LibCampFireClub 635]

And here's where we disagree. The best option is to create more jobs. To provide better education. To raise our children better so they're not choosing to live that type of life.

If you treat the disease, you win or lose. If you treat the patient, you win, no matter the outcome. Patch Adams.

That's cool. While you wait for these things to happen, I will be armed, locked, and loaded, and continue to fully support those who also choose to legally do the same.

[JohnR! 5,495]

A = gun owner

B = violent crime committer

C = bullets

D = trigger

'A' inserts 'C' into clip on way to convenience store

'B' attempts to hold up convenience store at gunpoint with 'A' present and 'B' and 'C' in tow

'A' holds weapon with two-handed grip pointed center mass at 'B'

'B' quickly turns

'A' pulls 'D'

'B' falls to floor dead on arrival

Basic math

Your logic is flawed. In this equation 'B' is a variation of 'A'. therefore what you are trying to say is:

A1 = gun owner

A2 = violent crime committer

C = bullets

D = trigger

'A1' inserts 'C' into clip on way to convenience store

'A2' attempts to hold up convenience store at gunpoint with 'A1' present and 'A2' and 'C' in tow

'A'1 holds weapon with two-handed grip pointed center mass at 'A2'

'A2' quickly turns

'A1' or 'A2' pulls 'D'

'A1' or 'A2' falls to floor dead on arrival

However the above is still flawed in that 'A1' and 'A2' are the same, in firepower, essentially, so the corrected equation should look like:

A = gun owner or violent crime committer

C = bullets

D = trigger

'A' inserts 'C' into clip on way to convenience store

'A' attempts to hold up convenience store at gunpoint with 'A' present and 'A' and 'C' in tow

'A' holds weapon with two-handed grip pointed center mass at 'A'

'A' quickly turns

'A' or 'A' pulls 'D'

'A' or 'A' falls to floor dead on arrival

If therefore, follows that if we wanted to resolve the equation for X=0, the logical solution would be the removal of 'C', in which case neither A nor A would end up dead.

The logical conclusion is that the main factor in the equation is 'C'. Remove 'C' and you will eliminate the problem.

QED.

Edited April 4, 2014 by Gegel

[LibCampFireClub 635]

Your logic is flawed. In this equation 'B' is a variation of 'A'. therefore what you are trying to say is:

You're making it too complicated. It's no wonder you're a confused hippy. Very simple: Threat seen, threat verified, threat neutralized.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

[Sousuke 1,214]

Your logic is flawed. In this equation 'B' is a variation of 'A'. therefore what you are trying to say is:

A1 = gun owner

A2 = violent crime committer

C = bullets

D = trigger

'A1' inserts 'C' into clip on way to convenience store

'A2' attempts to hold up convenience store at gunpoint with 'A1' present and 'A2' and 'C' in tow

'A'1 holds weapon with two-handed grip pointed center mass at 'A2'

'A2' quickly turns

'A1' or 'A2' pulls 'D'

'A1' or 'A2' falls to floor dead on arrival

However the above is still flawed in that 'A1' and 'A2' are the same, in firepower, essentially, so the corrected equation should look like:

A = gun owner or violent crime committer

C = bullets

D = trigger

'A' inserts 'C' into clip on way to convenience store

'A' attempts to hold up convenience store at gunpoint with 'A' present and 'A' and 'C' in tow

'A' holds weapon with two-handed grip pointed center mass at 'A'

'A' quickly turns

'A' or 'A' pulls 'D'

'A' or 'A' falls to floor dead on arrival

If therefore, follows that if we wanted to resolve the equation for X=0, the logical solution would be the removal of 'C', in which case neither A nor A would end up dead.

The logical conclusion is that the main factor in the equation is 'C'. Remove 'C' and you will eliminate the problem.

QED.

This doesn't take into account concealment and surprise by A1.

[Harpa Timsah 13,258]

Like those pesky teenagers who play their music too loud. Threat seen, threat neutralized!

Edited April 4, 2014 by Harpa Timsah

[LibCampFireClub 635]

Like those pesky teenagers who play their music too loud. Threat seen, threat neutralized!

Pesky teens don't bother me. I used to be one once upon a time. Fortunately, the majority of lawful gun-owners are law abiding and responsible citizens. Hoorah for us!

[JohnR! 5,495]

You're making it too complicated. It's no wonder you're a confused hippy. Very simple: Threat seen, threat verified, threat neutralized.

Logic and rationale are oftentimes perceived as arcane by the unaware.

Like those pesky teenagers who play their music too loud. Threat seen, threat neutralized!

To be sure! Those loud-music-listening hippys [sic].... They deserve to be neutralized, a-go-go, 60's style by lethal fembots!

Edited April 4, 2014 by Gegel

[LibCampFireClub 635]

Logic and rationale are oftentimes perceived as arcane by the unaware.

To be sure! Those loud-music-listening hippys [sic]....

Yep. They are indeed. Thank God for the GOP for keeping focus on rational logic, which in turn helps keep people aware. Hippies need more work however.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

That's cool. While you wait for these things to happen, I will be armed, locked, and loaded, and continue to fully support those who also choose to legally do the same.

I guess it's easier to get a gun than raising children to do right, get an education and be good people.