87% of American women (18-64) claim to have been harassed on the street by men

[Teddy B 17,252]

After the marriage is consummated? Are men to be treated as nothing but drones, or food for the widow?

Who said anything about consumation?

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Who said anything about consumation?

What sort of marriage.....never mind.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

This whole thread has been eye-opening for me. I just can't imagine someone acting like that. If I got the gender wrong when talking to a woman; I would probably be so embarrassed that I'd try to disappear. For it to evolve into what it did is disgusting. I can't blame women for being cautious when a guy says something nice when it seems it has so many times turned into something else entirely. I really don't know what the answer is. I guess it's just more moral decay.

For me, you can only speak/act for yourself. If a woman were to respond to it negatively, I would apologize and keep it moving. I think if people acted more courteous it would be less of an issue, but as we say a few rotten apples can ruin a whole bunch.

Is it possible that the answer is to avoid any interaction with members of the opposite sex that are outside of your family or circle of close friends?

There are groups of society that believe this is the appropriate approach.

It shouldn't be, but if that's a choice you make, then knock yourself out.

[Karee 4,191]

I gave up attempting to have a level headed conversation with you about 6 pages ago. I have said repeatedly that I treat women with nothing but respect and class, you have chosen to ignore that.

6 pages? You're lucky. Some have been trying for 6 years.

Truth,

The few times I have complimented a stranger, I gotten a polite thank you and a smile. Maybe it's because I keep them to simple things. Like a nice pair of shoes, or earrings that accent her eye color or outfit. Maybe it's because when I do it, it's not because I was sexually attracted to them, but honestly was impressed with what I saw. Hell, I've talked to women in bad moods that said my compliment made their day. As a father, I wouldn't comment on a 16 year old, it's not appropriate. My sons are that age.

Maybe I've been lucky or maybe the women I've talked to knew off the bat I was being sincere and responded in kind.

You're lucky you didn't get a face full of CS gas, being black and all.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

6 pages? You're lucky. Some have been trying for 6 years.

You're lucky you didn't get a face full of CS gas, being black and all.

I can't stand you.

[Karee 4,191]

Is it possible that the answer is to avoid any interaction with members of the opposite sex that are outside of your family or circle of close friends?

There are groups of society that believe this is the appropriate approach.

I see what you did there.

[OnMyWayID 1,489]

Didn't bother to read 90% of the posts for this 20+ page thread so sorry if its mostly a repeat..

87% ?? I can't think of a single woman that doesn't have some story.. Sadly we have a percentage of morons and creeps who take advantage of those they perceive as vulnerable and they have coverage like a Rumba vacuum cleaner. Given enough time they get to everyone... I'll say 99% to account for the queen of England and the other few who have led a protected life from womb-to-adult.

Edited April 7, 2014 by OnMyWayID

[Peikko 1,575]

Truth,

The few times I have complimented a stranger, I gotten a polite thank you and a smile. Maybe it's because I keep them to simple things. Like a nice pair of shoes, or earrings that accent her eye color or outfit. Maybe it's because when I do it, it's not because I was sexually attracted to them, but honestly was impressed with what I saw. Hell, I've talked to women in bad moods that said my compliment made their day. As a father, I wouldn't comment on a 16 year old, it's not appropriate. My sons are that age.

Maybe I've been lucky or maybe the women I've talked to knew off the bat I was being sincere and responded in kind.

You want to 'compliment' women because you feel that is something you can contribute to an overall 'niceness' in society. However, what you continually fail to appreciate is that a) if you are complimenting women on how they are looking, that's objectification and b) you do not care if the object of your compliment wants to hear it or not. You have decided it's a good thing so it's a good thing regardless of how the recipient feels (presumably because some women have smiled at you) and you have decided that you are not doing it because of sexual attraction yet it's not appropriate if a older man compliments a teenager and you have failed to say whether you do this in mixed company or if you compliment strange men for looking good as well. Doesn't a man deserve to have his day made by you? It really doesn't matter if you are sincere or not, you are making huge assumptions that someone else is in the least bit interested in your opinion of them. Obviously, people you know are interested but strangers? Why should they care at all what you think? Why should they have to suffer from acute embarrassment or humiliation or fear or anger because of your inability to see what you are doing is unwarranted? I'll repeat it again, 87% of women think your type of 'compliment' is harassment. Do you simply not care what 87% of women think?

[Teddy B 17,252]

You want to 'compliment' women because you feel that is something you can contribute to an overall 'niceness' in society. However, what you continually fail to appreciate is that a) if you are complimenting women on how they are looking, that's objectification and b) you do not care if the object of your compliment wants to hear it or not. You have decided it's a good thing so it's a good thing regardless of how the recipient feels (presumably because some women have smiled at you) and you have decided that you are not doing it because of sexual attraction yet it's not appropriate if a older man compliments a teenager and you have failed to say whether you do this in mixed company or if you compliment strange men for looking good as well. Doesn't a man deserve to have his day made by you? It really doesn't matter if you are sincere or not, you are making huge assumptions that someone else is in the least bit interested in your opinion of them. Obviously, people you know are interested but strangers? Why should they care at all what you think? Why should they have to suffer from acute embarrassment or humiliation or fear or anger because of your inability to see what you are doing is unwarranted? I'll repeat it again, 87% of women think your type of 'compliment' is harassment. Do you simply not care what 87% of women think?

If 87% of women were like you, I'd lop it off.

[Peikko 1,575]

Is it possible that the answer is to avoid any interaction with members of the opposite sex that are outside of your family or circle of close friends?

There are groups of society that believe this is the appropriate approach.

No, the answer is very simple, just don't harass strangers and all will be well. People are not going to object if you simply walk down the street and ignore them, most people will be very happy to just get on with their day without interruption.

If 87% of women were like you, I'd lop it off.

That's one comment you should have held back. Feel free to put me on your ignore list. My feeling will not be in the least bit hurt, not by being ignored by you or by your stupid, pathetic attempt at being insulting.

[Peikko 1,575]

Oh, and for the record and the mathematically challenged, 87% of women are exactly like me when it comes to this issue. Perhaps you should call the surgeon?

[B_J 2,752]

I'll repeat it again, 87% of women think your type of 'compliment' is harassment. Do you simply not care what 87% of women think?

The OP did not say that 87% felt that a compliment was harassment - that's just you.

[Teddy B 17,252]

That's one comment you should have held back. Feel free to put me on your ignore list. My feeling will not be in the least bit hurt, not by being ignored by you or by your stupid, pathetic attempt at being insulting.

It's pretty obvious you only have one.

[Harpa Timsah 13,258]

Oh, come on, guys.

[mota bhai 2,675]

So who thinks I should have this thread shut down?

Upvote this post if you'd like this thread closed.

Edited April 7, 2014 by mota bhai