ICE released 68,000 illegal aliens with criminal convictions in 2013

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

deportation is relatively cheap...an airline ticket...(or, in the case of Mexico, a bus ticket)...far cheaper than keeping these clowns in detention for weeks and months...just ship 'em home immediately....end all waivers....end all phony marriages by those about to get 'das boot'....hand 'em a box of Kleenex and wave 'em goodbye.

Das Boot? I guess that would work to get someone across the Rio Grande.

Sorry, got to do a triple poo poo on this little thread.

Overall Criminal Alien Removals

Overall, ICE conducted 216,810 removals of convicted criminals in FY 2013, the highest percentage of removals (59 percent) recorded for the previous five fiscal years. Convicted criminal removals, as a percentage of total removals, increased by four percent in FY 2013, and Level 1 removals, as a percentage of total removals, increased by one percent from FY 2012. Overall, 74,159 of the convicted criminals removed were Level 1 offenders, 47,198 were Level 2 offenders and 95,453 were Level 3 offenders.

The majority of Level 1 and Level 2 offenders – 65 percent – were apprehended in the interior of the U.S. Conversely, 68 percent of all Level 3 offenders were of individuals who were apprehended at the border and who also were previously convicted of a crime in the U.S., fulfilling two of ICE's stated priorities.

Guess TheHill.com wanted to turn a banner year for criminal deportations into a bit of a cry wolf piece to get their audience kerfluffled?

Don't tell me you're surprised...

[Peikko 1,575]

We only stop those who should not be voting in the first place.. how is this government suppression?

lets all put some thought into what we post instead of just regurgitating something we read on a blog somewhere.

Ah, genius at work. And how pray tell do you ensure that you only stop those who shouldn't be voting in the first place?

[lostinblue 1,989]

Ah, genius at work. And how pray tell do you ensure that you only stop those who shouldn't be voting in the first place?

Voter ID

[Peikko 1,575]

Voter ID

You do not think that demanding a voter ID might exclude some people who ARE eligible to vote? That it might make it possible for the government to preclude groups of people should they choose to? You don't think that, perhaps, there is a reason for not demanding that citizens provide specific government issued docs in order to vote? That doesn't strike you as perhaps a little draconian?

Personally, I think it's brilliant. The one thing that you guys demand the government does do is ensure that the government can preclude people from voting simply for not having the right government issued ID. That is pure genius.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

You do not think that demanding a voter ID might exclude some people who ARE eligible to vote? That it might make it possible for the government to preclude groups of people should they choose to? You don't think that, perhaps, there is a reason for not demanding that citizens provide specific government issued docs in order to vote? That doesn't strike you as perhaps a little draconian?

Personally, I think it's brilliant. The one thing that you guys demand the government does do is ensure that the government can preclude people from voting simply for not having the right government issued ID. That is pure genius.

Small gubmint and all.

[UncleBeer 244]

You do not think that demanding a voter ID might exclude some people who ARE eligible to vote?

If they care enough to vote (hopefully informing themselves on the issues, etc.), it's not unreasonable to think they'd avail themselves of the many programs aimed specifically at these individuals. (sorry for the blue squiggly bits that seem to flummox some forum readers), or simply vote absentee by mail. Not awfully difficult, eh?

That it might make it possible for the government to preclude groups of people should they choose to? You don't think that, perhaps, there is a reason for not demanding that citizens provide specific government issued docs in order to vote? That doesn't strike you as perhaps a little draconian?

Considering just how easy it is to vote, even with VoterID rules in place, your concerns seem paranoid. A more realistic fear than 'precluding' folks from voting are 'over-including'; the actual facts of voter fraud:

How Widespread is Voter Fraud? | 2012 Facts & Figures

Here are the facts:

• To date, 46 states have prosecuted or convicted cases of voter fraud.
• More than 24 million voter registrations are invalid, yet remain on the rolls nation-wide.
• There are over 1.8 million dead voters still eligible on the rolls across the country.
• More than 2.75 million Americans are registered to vote in more than one state.
• True The Vote recently found 99 cases of potential felony interstate voter fraud.
• Maryland affiliates of True The Vote uncovered cases of people registering and voting after their respective deaths.
• This year, True The Vote uncovered more than 348,000 dead people on the rolls in 27 states.
  • California: 49,000
  • Florida: 30,000
  • Texas: 28,500
  • Michigan: 25,000
  • Illinois: 24,000
• 12 Indiana counties have more registered voters than residents.
• The Ohio Secretary of State admitted that multiple Ohio counties have more registered voters than residents.
• Federal records showed 160 counties in 19 states have over 100 percent voter registration.
• The Florida New Majority Education Fund, Democratic Party of Florida and the National Council of La Raza are currently under investigation for alleged voter registration fraud.

Or the Obama campaign allowing foreign money to fund his 2008 and 2012 election campaigns.

Plus, VoterID has a popular mandate:

• 74 percent of Americans support, according to The Washington Post.
• 71 percent of Latinos support it, according to the PEW Research Center.

Surely you'd like the people to have their say ... ?

[UncleBeer 244]

More on voter fraud (I know: off the original topic, but I didn't start the VoterID tangent):

The North Carolina State Board of Elections has found thousands of instances of voter fraud in the state, thanks to a 28-state crosscheck of voter rolls. Initial findings suggest widespread election fraud.

• Initial findings from the Board presented to the Joint Legislative Elections Oversight Committee today show:
  • 765 voters with an exact match of first and last name, DOB and last four digits of SSN were registered in N.C. and another state and voted in N.C. and the other state in the 2012 general election.
  • 35,750 voters with the same first and last name and DOB were registered in N.C. and another state and voted in both states in the 2012 general election.
  • 155,692 voters with the same first and last name, DOB and last four digits of SSN were registered in N.C. and another state – and the latest date of registration or voter activity did not take place within N.C.
  These findings only take into account data from the 28 states who participated in the 2014 Interstate Crosscheck, leaving out potential voter error and fraud in the 22 states that do not participate in the consortium.
  
  Additionally, during an audit of death records from the Department of Health and Human Services, the Board discovered:
  
  • 50,000 new death records that had not previously been provided to the State Board of Elections.
  • 13,416 deceased voters on the voter rolls in October 2013.
  • 81 deceased voters that had voter activity after they died.

[JohnR! 5,495]

Small gubmint and all.

They only pontificate small gubmint in their own lives, not on others'. :rofl: