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Hello all,

This forum was super helpful in getting my wife (UK citizen) over here and settled, so I am back after a few years in need of further assistance.

I recently received a job offer in London that I have accepted, and we will be moving there most likely within the next few months. I will be entering the UK on a work visa as my wife is currently unemployed and we as such we don't satisfy the income requirements for a UK spouse visa. If things don't work out, we really want to have the option of coming back. After doing a lot of reading, I'm not sure what we should do. As I see it we have a few options.

1) Apply for a re-entry permit and we should be pretty much good to go if we decide to move back in less than two years. I see this as being a bit tough since we will have difficulties proving we were "domiciled" in the US while away. I don't think a US mailing address (my mother's house) qualifies for this requirement.

2) Just move and apply for a new spouse visa on return (not sure how income requirements work if I'm in another country but that's what Google is for!).

3) Have my wife apply for US citizenship (she qualifies as of this month) and not worry about it. This could be difficult, as one of the requirements of obtaining citizenship is proof of intention to settle permanently in the US, when in reality we aren't sure which country we want to settle in permanently. Not to mention the fact that would most likely be leaving the country well before the application would be processed (gotta love how long US immigration takes!).

I know that this sort of thing can be quite tricky so any advice/insight would be greatly appreciated.

P.S. Mods, if this isn't the correct forum, please feel free to move this thread as needed.

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
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Moved from What Visa Do I Need - Family Based Immigration to General Immigration-Related Discussion.

Our journey:

Spoiler

September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

December 18, 2023:  Filed I-90 to renew Green Card

December 21, 2023:  Production of new Green Card ordered - will be seeing USCIS again every 10 years for renewal

 

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Hungary
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"This could be difficult, as one of the requirements of obtaining citizenship is proof of intention to settle permanently in the US, when in reality we aren't sure which country we want to settle in permanently."

There is no such requirement for a citizenship application. On the contrary, often a beneficiary would obtain US citizenship prior to moving to another country, so there is no problem with coming back to the US in the future. As a US citizen, your wife may live in any country.

Edited by EM_Vandaveer

Entry on VWP to visit then-boyfriend 06/13/2011

Married 06/24/2011

Our first son was born 10/31/2012, our daughter was born 06/30/2014, our second son was born 06/20/2017

AOS Timeline

AOS package mailed 09/06/2011 (Chicago Lockbox)

AOS package signed for by R Mercado 09/07/2011

Priority date for I-485&I-130 09/08/2011

Biometrics done 10/03/2011

Interview letter received 11/18/2011

INTERVIEW DATE!!!! 12/20/2011

Approval e-mail 12/21/2011

Card production e-mail 12/27/2011

GREEN CARD ARRIVED 12/31/2011

Resident since 12/21/2011

ROC Timeline

ROC package mailed to VSC 11/22/2013

NOA1 date 11/26/2013

Biometrics date 12/26/2013

Transfer notice to CSC 03/14/2014

Change of address 03/27/2014

Card production ordered 04/30/2014

10-YEAR GREEN CARD ARRIVED 05/06/2014

N-400 Timeline

N-400 package mailed 09/30/2014

N-400 package delivered 10/01/2014

NOA1 date 10/20/2014

Biometrics date 11/14/2014

Early walk-in biometrics 11/12/2014

In-line for interview 11/23/2014

Interview letter 03/18/2015

Interview date 04/17/2015 ("Decision cannot yet be made.")

In-line for oath scheduling 05/04/2015

Oath ceremony letter dated 05/11/2015

Oath ceremony 06/02/2015

I am a United States citizen!

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There is no such requirement for a citizenship application. On the contrary, often a beneficiary would obtain US citizenship prior to moving to another country, so there is no problem with coming back to the US in the future. As a US citizen, your wife may live in any country.

I could have sworn that it was possible to lose the citizenship by moving out of the country within 6 months of being naturalized.

So the next question would be, is it possible to apply for naturalization and move before it's granted? If so, are there any pitfalls to watch out for?

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Mexico
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Depending on where you are filing from, it may be possible for the processing time to be as short as around 5 months. Granted, this varies depending on circumstances and on your location so search for your relevant USCIS field office: https://egov.uscis.gov/cris/processTimesDisplayInit.do

I don't know the details of your case (comment implying legal authority removed - VJ Moderation) Nevertheless, I would consider it a wiser move to seek naturalization before moving away rather than imperil both your spouse's residency and potential naturalization.

Edited by Kathryn41
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Depending on where you are filing from, it may be possible for the processing time to be as short as around 5 months. Granted, this varies depending on circumstances and on your location so search for your relevant USCIS field office: https://egov.uscis.gov/cris/processTimesDisplayInit.do

I don't know the details of your case (and therefore clearly this does not establish a lawyer-client relationship nor is this legal advice). Nevertheless, I would consider it a wiser move to seek naturalization before moving away rather than imperil both your spouse's residency and potential naturalization.

Unfortunately, I will be moving either way within the next 2 months. If we apply, would the application automatically be abandoned when we move?

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Mexico
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Unfortunately, I will be moving either way within the next 2 months. If we apply, would the application automatically be abandoned when we move?

To quote from one of the textbooks (comment edited -VJ Moderation), "The LPR may not be able to meet the continuous residence requirement if he or she has been outside of the U.S. for more than six months without interruption; absences of one year or more create an absolute bar to meeting this requirement, unless the LPR takes steps before the expiration of the year abroad to preserve continuity of residence [...] USCIS takes the position that absences occurring both prior and subsequent to the filing of the naturalization application may break the required continuity of residence for naturalization purposes. As a result, the agency will deny naturalization if the applicant is absent form the U.S. for more than one year between the date of his interview and the date of the oath ceremony."

In other words, while the wording is different, your caution regarding your move and its impact on the naturalization process would seem to be warranted. There are exceptions to the residency rules described above but those are really fact dependent and you would need to have a full consultation with an experienced immigration lawyer if you wanted to explore those options.

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Hello all,

This forum was super helpful in getting my wife (UK citizen) over here and settled, so I am back after a few years in need of further assistance.

I recently received a job offer in London that I have accepted, and we will be moving there most likely within the next few months. I will be entering the UK on a work visa as my wife is currently unemployed and we as such we don't satisfy the income requirements for a UK spouse visa. If things don't work out, we really want to have the option of coming back. After doing a lot of reading, I'm not sure what we should do. As I see it we have a few options.

1) Apply for a re-entry permit and we should be pretty much good to go if we decide to move back in less than two years. I see this as being a bit tough since we will have difficulties proving we were "domiciled" in the US while away. I don't think a US mailing address (my mother's house) qualifies for this requirement.

2) Just move and apply for a new spouse visa on return (not sure how income requirements work if I'm in another country but that's what Google is for!).

3) Have my wife apply for US citizenship (she qualifies as of this month) and not worry about it. This could be difficult, as one of the requirements of obtaining citizenship is proof of intention to settle permanently in the US, when in reality we aren't sure which country we want to settle in permanently. Not to mention the fact that would most likely be leaving the country well before the application would be processed (gotta love how long US immigration takes!).

I know that this sort of thing can be quite tricky so any advice/insight would be greatly appreciated.

P.S. Mods, if this isn't the correct forum, please feel free to move this thread as needed.

Hi I hope that this might be of some help, if your wife does go back to the UK with out getting her US citizenship, then as long as you can full fill the requirements you can always file a new application for another G/C with the Embassy in London it's called a DCF & I think that it takes about 3/4 months to get it done. So when you are ready to return to the US then just file in time before your return date & she will then enter as a resident.

Brian

Edited by blk

AOS

Feb 3rd 2014 sent AOS pack I-130, I-485, 
Feb 17th 2014 Received NOA1 x 3 NOA1 date 5th Feb 2014
Feb 22nd 2014 Received biometrics appointment for 7th March 2014 at 3pm
Feb 27th 2014 Did early walk in for Biometrics successfully
March 17th 2014 Received text & email with interview date on 22nd April 2014

March 18th 2014 Received interview letter in post with time & place, 2.15pm at Mt Laurel NJ
April 16th 2014 Received EAD card
April 22nd 2014 Had AOS interview at Mt Laurel NJ APPROVED
April 22nd 2014 Text & email Case Status: Card / Document Production
April 26th 2014 Received my Green Card today
Total time from Application to Approval 11 Weeks & 1 Day
ROC
Feb 9th 2016 I-751 package sent to Vermont Service Center
Feb 11th 2016 I-751 package received at VSC
Feb 17th 2016 Cheque for $590 cashed

Feb 19th 2016 Received I-797 NOA Dated 02/12/2016

March 8th 2016 Biometrics Appointment at 10am. (Done)

April 14th 2017  I-551 stamp in passport 

April 27th 2017 Received text & email Card/Document Production

May 3rd 2017 Received 10 year Green Card today   

N-400

March 7th 2017 N-400 sent to Dallas TX 

March 10th N-400 Application received

March 15th Cheque for $725 cashed

March 20th received NOA1 dated March 15th

March 24th received biometrics appointment for 04/05/17

March 28th did early walk in for biometrics 

October 10th received Citizenship Interview letter

November 13th Citizenship Interview at 10 am Mount Laurel NJ passed my interview.

November 13th Oath ceremony 3pm now a citizen

November 14th applied for my passport 

November 25th Received my passport 

November 27th Received my naturalization certificate back

November 28th Updated my social security records 

 

 

 

 

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