Obamacare enrollment tops six millionas deadline looms

[Robby999 1,024]

One month after he said that Obamacare horror stories were “lies,” Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.) now claims that he never said anything of the sort.

In a vain attempt to control reality, Reid took to the Senate floor yesterday and completely denied his previous statement that every Obamacare horror story in America was “untrue.”

“Mr. President [of the Senate], the junior Senator from Wyoming has come to the floor several times recently talking about the fact that examples that he and other Republicans have given, dealing with Obamacare, examples that they think are bad, I’ve called lies,” he stated. “Mr. President, that is simply untrue.”

“I have never come to the floor, to my recollection, and I never said a word about any of the examples that Republicans have given regarding Obamacare and how it’s not very good.”

Contast this to his statement one month prior:

Despite all that good news, there’s plenty of horror stories being told. All of them are untrue, but they’re being told all over America.

The leukemia patient whose insurance policy was canceled [and] could die without her medication, Mr. President, that’s an ad being paid for by two billionaire brothers. It’s absolutely false. Or the woman whose insurance policy went up $700 a month–ads paid for around America by the multibillionaire Koch brothers, and the ad is false.

We heard about the evils of Obamacare, about the lives it’s ruining in Republicans’ stump speeches and in ads paid for by oil magnates, the Koch brothers. But in those tales, turned out to be just that: tales, stories made up from whole cloth, lies distorted by the Republicans to grab headlines or make political advertisements.

It’s an extremely common strategy – one that dates back to antiquity – for corrupt politicians to constantly lie, lie, lie and then deny, deny, deny, giving them the illusion that they control reality.

And Reid is about as power hungry and corrupt as they come.

Yesterday it was reported that he gave his granddaughter $17,000 in campaign funds as a “holiday gift” and only admitted to it after intense scrutiny by the Federal Election Commission.

Reid announced that he would reimburse the money, but it’s obvious that he’s only doing so after being exposed.

And, going back to the horrors of Obamacare, the Senate’s top Democrat blamed Americans who weren’t “educated on how to use the Internet” for Obamacare’s abysmal enrollment numbers, not the faulty exchange web sites or the health law’s numerous other problems.

Apparently he discovered that not all the voters are stoners and can remember what was previously said. I personally think the dems will need to go all the way back to Jamestown burial records to get all the votes they will need to stay afloat in the mid-terms.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I will say this. I supported PPACA and still do, but my experience with trying to get enrolled in a state that joined in the expansion, creating a marketplace has been an exercise in total frustration. There are definite kinks to iron out and I'm uneasy about the partnership between state and fed in implementing this. For example, when applying for the federal tax rebate, a stepchild is counted as a dependent, but for the state's medicaid qualifications, they do not count stepchildren as dependents. It's crazy.

Like the kinks they had to work out when they implemented Medicare Part D? Remember when the President just extended the enrollment deadline by about a year? No, not this President. The guy before him. And remember how Republicans and FOX News were all up in arms about that executive power-grab? You don't? Well, neither do I. Why? Because it didn't happen. Oh, the deadline extension from May 15 to December 31, 2006 certainly did happen. Without an act from Congress. The administration did that all on their own. Republicans and their propaganda organ just weren't up in arms when their guy did it. And just to pre-empt that old hat, no, Democrats weren't screaming bloody murder then either.

[LibCampFireClub 635]

Republicans and their propaganda organ just weren't up in arms when their guy did it.

Like Hillary said: There is a vast right-wing conspiracy.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Like Hillary said: There is a vast right-wing conspiracy.

I'd have to disagree with Hillary on that one. It's not a conspiracy, it pure idiocy. The latter is all the right wing can muster.

[LibCampFireClub 635]

I'd have to disagree with Hillary on that one. It's not a conspiracy, it pure idiocy. The latter is all the right wing can muster.

I feel for ya man. It's like watching a giant wrecking ball roll over the entire dem-party while you thought everything was working just fine. There may be a provision in 0-care for bactine and bandaids for your comrades.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Go ahead and keep counting your chickens before they hatch.

[Danno 1,228]

When you put all the hype on both side away and think about your subject line.... it says it all.

In a country of over 300 million people, it has been a struggle to get even 6 or 7 million people to raise their hand and say "Yes" I want your subsidized gift.

We had a hole in the roof and they tore down the house to fix it.

[Not a Tailor 1,370]

When you put all the hype on both side away and think about your subject line.... it says it all.

In a country of over 300 million people, it has been a struggle to get even 6 or 7 million people to raise their hand and say "Yes" I want your subsidized gift.

We had a hole in the roof and they tore down the house to fix it.

US healthcare didn't just have a hole in the roof. That's the most visible issue, but the sills have rotted out and the ridgepole is cracked and on the verge of flat-out breaking. And still they didn't tear it down.

No, this is just propping it up. Putting a few extra pieces of wood on, in the hopes that they can keep it going as it is a little bit longer.

Tearing down the house would be going to a single payer system that's not a giant for-profit nightmare where a hospital charges whatever they want and gets away with it because people don't have choices.

I'm worried, though, that they won't tear down the house until it entirely collapses. The US has the highest or some of the highest healthcare costs in the world, but still has higher levels of in-hospital infection and has a higher mother and infant mortality rate than most, if not all, other developed nations in what used to be known as the 'first world.' There's something seriously wrong with that.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

When you put all the hype on both side away and think about your subject line.... it says it all.

In a country of over 300 million people, it has been a struggle to get even 6 or 7 million people to raise their hand and say "Yes" I want your subsidized gift.

We had a hole in the roof and they tore down the house to fix it.

Thank you for impressively demonstrating that have absolutely no clue what the ACA actually is. The right wing echo chamber wanted to keep you ignorant and misinformed. And they have succeeded.

[Operator 1,927]

As the "DEADLINE LOOMS"...

Sounds rather dark. Maybe those 6 million people felt pressure by the LOOMING DEADLINE.

[Danno 1,228]

US healthcare didn't just have a hole in the roof. That's the most visible issue, but the sills have rotted out and the ridgepole is cracked and on the verge of flat-out breaking. And still they didn't tear it down.

No, this is just propping it up. Putting a few extra pieces of wood on, in the hopes that they can keep it going as it is a little bit longer.

Tearing down the house would be going to a single payer system that's not a giant for-profit nightmare where a hospital charges whatever they want and gets away with it because people don't have choices.

I'm worried, though, that they won't tear down the house until it entirely collapses. The US has the highest or some of the highest healthcare costs in the world, but still has higher levels of in-hospital infection and has a higher mother and infant mortality rate than most, if not all, other developed nations in what used to be known as the 'first world.' There's something seriously wrong with that.

Fear not my friend, the system you believe in will be realized, we just have to expereince a lot more gov't involvement and more failure and when we feel "it can't get worse" we will yield to the promises…. again.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Obamacare: The Metrics In The News Are Mostly Wrong

The six million number is an estimate made by the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) for year one enrollment in the new insurance marketplaces. They downgraded their estimate from seven million after the website woes slowed early enrollment. CBO estimates are made to gauge impact on the federal budget. Their purpose is not to judge the success or failure of the program. While it is true that the greater the number of enrollees the higher the likelihood of a balanced risk pool, six million is not a magic number.

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The current focus on national enrollment numbers and signups by young adults doesn’t tell us a great deal about the answers to these questions, and they are not a good metric by which to judge year one success.

The problem is that it will take time to learn if the mix of enrollees is healthier or sicker, and how premium increases vary around the country, and how people feel about their coverage. Meanwhile Republican politicians will lambast the law and Democratic ones will offer lukewarm support and overall popularity of the ACA probably won’t change very much. Anybody willing to wait for a judgment based on the right metrics?

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