Black preschoolers more likely to face suspension

[Danno 1,228]

The SAT is a biased exam aimed at a certain wealthier white demographic.

What tests are unbiased?

IS the military test bias?

How about 100 years of IQ tests?

Police academy?

Fire fighters test?

Is the whole system rigged?

[Peikko 1,575]

What tests are unbiased?

IS the military test bias?

How about 100 years of IQ tests?

Police academy?

Fire fighters test?

Is the whole system rigged?

Bias is not necessarily a proof of someone deliberately rigging a test. It might be, or it might be a result of historical and cultural factors that have influenced the development of a test. Who knew? It would seem, not you

[Golden Gate 530]

What tests are unbiased?

IS the military test bias?

How about 100 years of IQ tests?

Police academy?

Fire fighters test?

Is the whole system rigged?

"What tests are unbiased?"

Hmmm, well maybe none, so don't see how that is an argument. So it doesn't matter that all tests are biased?

Why is this the case? Because the people in positions of power here for the last 100 years don't understand other racial and ethnic groups well enough to create a more just test.

http://www.apa.org/monitor/feb03/intelligence.aspx

[Danno 1,228]

Bias is not necessarily a proof of someone deliberately rigging a test. It might be, or it might be a result of historical and cultural factors that have influenced the development of a test. Who knew? It would seem, not you

You don't scratch your head and wonder why foreigners seem to do rather well?

So, there is not a test you know of which is not biased?

[Peikko 1,575]

You don't scratch your head and wonder why foreigners seem to do rather well?

So, there is not a test you know of which is not biased?

No, I do not scratch my head and wonder at these things that you find so troubling and yes, I do not know of a single test that could be without bias. That being said, testing can be useful despite the bias. So what?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

It's funny how you left out the next sentence, which denies the assertion. But, let me guess you believe him over the others?

You cannot expect Danno to post that here. That portion is absolutely devastating to Danno's bigoted worldview. So let me post it.

Academy leaders say the school has diversified with no loss of scholarship. Incoming freshmen of every race ranked near the top of their senior class in grade-point average and test scores, according to academy records. The academy admitted fewer than 10 percent of the African Americans and Hispanics who applied for admission to the Class of 2013 and a similar share of whites.

"This class we inducted yesterday may be the most talented overall that we have ever brought into the Naval Academy," said William Miller, academic dean and provost of the academy. "We have increased the standards, rather than dumbing them down."

Facts are the darndest thing, aren't they?

[Danno 1,228]

You cannot expect Danno to post that here. That portion is absolutely devastating to Danno's bigoted worldview. So let me post it.

Facts are the darndest thing, aren't they?

They sure are my friend..... if you are astute enough to see them.

<<<Academy leaders (RAther than independent) say the school has diversified with no loss of scholarship. Incoming freshmen of every race ranked near the top of their senior class in grade-point average and test scores, according to academy records. The academy admitted fewer than 10 percent of the African Americans and Hispanics who applied for admission to the Class of 2013 and a similar share of whites.>>>>>

You see, when you fish in low performing schools you can proudly say "We got the best" the school had to offer."

What they didn't say was all candidates competed on an equal field to be admitted and to graduate.

They couldn't say that.

​NOw that being said, no one goes through the academy as a dummy or gets a totally free ride.

My objection is.... another "more deserving" candidate was turned away in order to meet the diversity goal.

I think diversity should be a natural consequence not a contrived formula with all this pressue from the top brass.

Someone in my family applied for the Naval academy and this was an honor roll student...... and was not accepted, does anyone not think that this same candidate if Black would have been turned away?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

They sure are my friend..... if you are astute enough to see them.

<<<Academy leaders (RAther than independent) say the school has diversified with no loss of scholarship. Incoming freshmen of every race ranked near the top of their senior class in grade-point average and test scores, according to academy records. The academy admitted fewer than 10 percent of the African Americans and Hispanics who applied for admission to the Class of 2013 and a similar share of whites.>>>>>

You see, when you fish in low performing schools you can proudly say "We got the best" the school had to offer."

What they didn't say was all candidates competed on an equal field to be admitted and to graduate.

They couldn't say that.

​NOw that being said, no one goes through the academy as a dummy or gets a totally free ride.

My objection is.... another "more deserving" candidate was turned away in order to meet the diversity goal.

I think diversity should be a natural consequence not a contrived formula with all this pressue from the top brass.

Someone in my family applied for the Naval academy and this was an honor roll student...... and was not accepted, does anyone not think that this same candidate if Black would have been turned away?

There's no cure to your bigotry.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

What others? He is the one who would know.... and speak up the others dare not.

Come on Marv, you have a shortage of Black recruits, their failure rate is high, how do you suddenly get them

-in the door

then

-qualified?

NOw the goal of having a force that matches a certain look might be more important than enforcing every standard.

I just wish we could all agree..... either skin color matters or it doesn't.

It is either has some added value or it is just pigment... because I was all on-board when we were considering character and skill.

So automatically I'm not qualified to be in? It doesn't matter, but it does to you because you have a problem with black people.

[Danno 1,228]

So automatically I'm not qualified to be in? It doesn't matter, but it does to you because you have a problem with black people.

Go ahead and finish the sentence.

Here, I will help you.

"So automatically I'm not qualified to be in? It doesn't matter, but it does to you because you have a problem with black people"..... who are treated differently because of the color of their skin.

One thing they never explain is - What specifically IS the diversity Blacks (or anyone else) adds?

What is is that blacks do or have that is so unique that by simply adding a black guy in the room, this specific diversifying trait is there?

Everyone whats to know.. what is it?

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Go ahead and finish the sentence.

Here, I will help you.

"So automatically I'm not qualified to be in? It doesn't matter, but it does to you because you have a problem with black people"..... who are treated differently because of the color of their skin.

One thing they never explain is - What specifically IS the diversity Blacks (or anyone else) adds?

What is is that blacks do or have that is so unique that by simply adding a black guy in the room, this specific diversifying trait is there?

Everyone whats to know.. what is it?

I'll try to explain this without hurting you, but I know you won't understand it. There are other people in the US living here, not just white people. What they're trying to do is make thing accessible to all races, since you know about 40 years ago, you couldn't apply based on the color of your skin.

[Golden Gate 530]

Go ahead and finish the sentence.

Here, I will help you.

"So automatically I'm not qualified to be in? It doesn't matter, but it does to you because you have a problem with black people"..... who are treated differently because of the color of their skin.

One thing they never explain is - What specifically IS the diversity Blacks (or anyone else) adds?

What is is that blacks do or have that is so unique that by simply adding a black guy in the room, this specific diversifying trait is there?

Everyone whats to know.. what is it?

I am sorry but sheeesh, I am going to be matter of fact. Maybe if you spent more time really being friends with people of other backgrounds, you would begin to understand them. Being friends means treating them as equals and realizing that they come from a completely different perspective than you and just accepting that and not putting them down because they aren't like you. Also, having some empathy and compassion for others would help.

Then maybe you wouldn't be asking these inane and insensitive questions.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

I am sorry but sheeesh, I am going to be matter of fact. Maybe if you spent more time really being friends with people of other backgrounds, you would begin to understand them. Being friends means treating them as equals and realizing that they come from a completely different perspective than you and just accepting that and not putting them down because they aren't like you. Also, having some empathy and compassion for others would help.

Then maybe you wouldn't be asking these inane and insensitive questions.

You're wasting your time. Danno is obsessed with black people, but refuses to be friends with any of us. In his own words he serves as a counterbalance on this site when it comes to black people. Which begs the question.

If black people have a negative image in the media and IRL, why do you only post negative stories about us? How do you counterbalance something negative with more negativity?

[Golden Gate 530]

You're wasting your time. Danno is obsessed with black people, but refuses to be friends with any of us. In his own words he serves as a counterbalance on this site when it comes to black people. Which begs the question.

If black people have a negative image in the media and IRL, why do you only post negative stories about us? How do you counterbalance something negative with more negativity?

Well, it just amazes me that someone who insists that you should have two heterosexual parents, never learned any of the things from them that parents are supposed to teach a child. I am sure glad my parents did and at least I have the capacity to self-reflect.

Another thing, I was raised Catholic, although I don't practice it now, and as far as I can recall, the church teaches love for others, not hatred.

Edited March 29, 2014 by Golden Gate

[Danno 1,228]

That's it, that's your story of redemption as a result of the special powers of fathers? I have news for you Danno, hold on to your hat, but girls can be thieves as well. So, how did your father stop you from turning into a career criminal thief? Moreover how is that related to teaching a boy to be a man. Finally what exactly about a woman/mother makes it impossible for her to teach a boy to be a useful male member of society? You are lacking any specifics whatsoever. Your response is totally meaningless, and while I admit I am a mere woman, I feel certain that they do not provide any proof whatsoever of your assertions.

You are focusing way too much on me and missing the story.

Here I will make it easy on you.

Name for me just one statistic where children of unmarried mothers do as well as kids that have their mom and dad raising them

Pick anyone one you want.....

Suicide

Teen pregnancy

Drug use

school drop out

criminal activity

need for metal professional

Rates of STDs

sexual abuse

physical abuse

raised in poverty

Alcohol abuse

Name any one you want I will show you that on average that children born without the benefit of committed parents does worse. 2-3-sometimes 4 times as bad.

Play ball.