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[rebeccajo 14]

Bradvicky and others - look at it this way.

Yes, CBP officers have the final say as to entry. However, barring contraband or suspicious on-site activity, it's the opening of the K1 packet and the contents therein that will normally cause them to question and possibly turnback a beneficiary.

That, and the unfortunate fact that entrants from certain regions are queried more than others. Unfortunate but true nonetheless.

This statement -

"If you are not present it will be much harder for her to get through immigration on a K1."

-when written as it was, a single sentence, can be alarming to readers.

I don't think you were jumped on Brad. I think your statement was merely corrected.

Edited January 6, 2007 by rebeccajo

[bradyvicky 0]

Bradvicky and others - look at it this way.

Yes, CBP officers have the final say as to entry. However, barring contraband or suspicious on-site activity, it's the opening of the K1 packet and the contents therein that will normally cause them to question and possibly turnback a beneficiary.

That, and the unfortunate fact that entrants from certain regions are queried more than others. Unfortunate but true nonetheless.

This statement -

"If you are not present it will be much harder for her to get through immigration on a K1."

-when written as it was, a single sentence, can be alarming to readers.

I don't think you were jumped on Brad. I think your statement was merely corrected.

Quit picking apart each sentence. I made it very clear what I meant with the COMPLETE CONTEXT of the whole post. Those of you who DO NOT agree with me, because you know it all, I wish you luck. Maybe you will be one of the next who gets denied entry think you had it "in the bag" when you picked up your visa.

By the way, "However, barring contraband or suspicious on-site activity, it's the opening of the K1 packet and the contents therein that will normally cause them to question and possibly turnback a beneficiary." Where in the world did you come up with this? There is SO MUCH more that can result in a denied entry...lol You need to do some more research, or quit shooting from the hip!

I wont be posting on this thread anymore (based on my factual knowledge of the K1 process), or about K1's anymore, because apparently everyone knows much more than me.

Take care.

[rebeccajo 14]

Oh for pity sake.

Simmer down.

It's a message board and people do pick apart sentences. Not in order to start fights but seeking information. Remember you don't have the voice to go along with the written word.

Edited January 6, 2007 by rebeccajo

[Killer_Clown_2009 0]

I read one article about a spouse to be being denied entry at the POE. the girl was about 21 and the husband to be was in his 70's. The POE officer decided he didn't believe that the relationship was valid. I'm sure this is not something that happens a lot.

[Kathryn41 3,205]

Bradvicky and others - look at it this way.

Yes, CBP officers have the final say as to entry. However, barring contraband or suspicious on-site activity, it's the opening of the K1 packet and the contents therein that will normally cause them to question and possibly turnback a beneficiary.

That, and the unfortunate fact that entrants from certain regions are queried more than others. Unfortunate but true nonetheless.

This statement -

"If you are not present it will be much harder for her to get through immigration on a K1."

-when written as it was, a single sentence, can be alarming to readers.

I don't think you were jumped on Brad. I think your statement was merely corrected.

Quit picking apart each sentence. I made it very clear what I meant with the COMPLETE CONTEXT of the whole post. Those of you who DO NOT agree with me, because you know it all, I wish you luck. Maybe you will be one of the next who gets denied entry think you had it "in the bag" when you picked up your visa.

By the way, "However, barring contraband or suspicious on-site activity, it's the opening of the K1 packet and the contents therein that will normally cause them to question and possibly turnback a beneficiary." Where in the world did you come up with this? There is SO MUCH more that can result in a denied entry...lol You need to do some more research, or quit shooting from the hip!

I wont be posting on this thread anymore (based on my factual knowledge of the K1 process), or about K1's anymore, because apparently everyone knows much more than me.

Take care.

Possibly something that is better left unsaid, but still I am saying it . . somehow these responses struck me along the lines of 'protesting too much". (and before you get your knickers in a knot, I was a K-1 visa holder - I drove across and activated my visa - it was the easiest part of the journey. My now husband waited outside - they had no way of knowing if he was with me or not.)

Edited January 7, 2007 by Kathryn41

[Ta Ta 1]

Brad, I am sure no one tried to offend you. If you felt insulted by my comment I apologize.

Reading your other post I have a better understanding of the meaning and agree with not treating the POE part as a done deal and also have heard of several denied entries.

Iwill treat it very seriously.

Please keep in mind that those that have NOT yet had the POE experience get very

anxious and anticipate yet more trouble in this visa process and were simply a little shook

up by your initial comment.

Hundreds of us genuine couples have to go through unfair treatment thanks to the frauds that went before us !

To me it was a matter of choosing your words that caused me to question it. You know what you meant, I didn't and that is why I asked for clarification.

Such are the dynamics of a message board.

Peace and we would like for you to advice us in the future so please do not be offended.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

....nothing to add

Edited January 7, 2007 by Steven_and_Jinky

[bora bora 1]

I created a poll a few days ago asking if the USC accompanies, or will accompany, his/her spouse for the interview.

As of now almost 79% said that they do NOT.

[Boiler 46,397]

Bradvicky and others - look at it this way.

Yes, CBP officers have the final say as to entry. However, barring contraband or suspicious on-site activity, it's the opening of the K1 packet and the contents therein that will normally cause them to question and possibly turnback a beneficiary.

That, and the unfortunate fact that entrants from certain regions are queried more than others. Unfortunate but true nonetheless.

This statement -

"If you are not present it will be much harder for her to get through immigration on a K1."

-when written as it was, a single sentence, can be alarming to readers.

I don't think you were jumped on Brad. I think your statement was merely corrected.

Quit picking apart each sentence. I made it very clear what I meant with the COMPLETE CONTEXT of the whole post. Those of you who DO NOT agree with me, because you know it all, I wish you luck. Maybe you will be one of the next who gets denied entry think you had it "in the bag" when you picked up your visa.

By the way, "However, barring contraband or suspicious on-site activity, it's the opening of the K1 packet and the contents therein that will normally cause them to question and possibly turnback a beneficiary." Where in the world did you come up with this? There is SO MUCH more that can result in a denied entry...lol You need to do some more research, or quit shooting from the hip!

I wont be posting on this thread anymore (based on my factual knowledge of the K1 process), or about K1's anymore, because apparently everyone knows much more than me.

Take care.

Your comments are at the best misleading.

I know of only one case posted on here in 3 years where a K1 was refused entry, and that involved a CIMT that the POE considered correctly needed a waiver.

I may of course have missed another.

I also frequent other boards and have never seen a case of a refused K1 there.

Now you can never say never but the chances are higher that the plane will crash en route.

By all means follow through in notifying them of your suspicions but from a practical point of view, do not hold your breath.

As far as staying here, well 20,000,000 or so manage quite nicely.

She may of course already be here.

Anyway move on, not a lot you can do about it.

Also a K1 entrant who did not need their hand held.

Edited January 7, 2007 by Boiler

[Mr and Mrs Bird 0]

ok then my question will be.

If I am approved after filing I-601

Will I then still have problems at POE?

What is the procedure when I go to POE with my K-1 after this?

I mean they have in the proces on I-601 already investigated me with background check, finger prints and everything.

What would the problem be at the POE?

[Boiler 46,397]

Well if you commit a Feloney for example, and tried to do a runner to the US on your K visa.

I think they would probably send you back.

[Mr and Mrs Bird 0]

Well if you commit a Feloney for example, and tried to do a runner to the US on your K visa.

I think they would probably send you back.

Ok it is not a felony

[ready4ONE 5,400]

The denial at POE discussion is a bit off the topic posted by the OP. I know that I won't be comfortable, or feel like we are home free until J actually gets her citizenship... Getting her past the POE and actually here will be far more comfortable than our current status of waiting for her interview, which is slightly better than awaiting approval of our original petition only in as much as our wait has an end date, the date of her interview.

But the original post regarded a petitioner's suspicion that his fiancé had gone through the entire process, passed the interview, now has a K-1 visa in hand, but is not yet here in the USA... The fiancé has said or done something not mentioned by the OP but he suspects he was duped and used, and that his fiancé no longer has any plans to use the visa to come here and marry him.

I am not an expert, but stick by my post that I would be writing immediately, perhaps by email to the embassy which approved the visa, and to the Department of State. Here is what I gathered from searching the DOS website:

N7 Termination of a K Visa Petition Approval

BCIS regulations, 8 CFR 214.2(k), provide that the death of a petitioner or written withdrawal of the petition prior to the arrival of the beneficiary in the United States automatically terminates the approval of the petition. The consular officer should return the petition to the approving BCIS office with an appropriate memorandum.

Obviously it is a bit more complicated in this case, since the beneficiary has apparently gotten the visa, but it does sound like she has NOT gotten into the US yet. So again, my advice is email the embassy ASAP and probably the Department of State, the USCIS service center you filed with, and NVC as well, and lay out everything that has occurred to cause you to feel the K-1 visa was issued to someone who's sole intent was to use it to get into the United States. And notify them you no longer support the petition, nor do you intend to marry her. The K-1 is a very specific visa, and requires the petitioner to be willing to marry the beneficiary at every step in the process. Then mail off certified letters to all of the above.

You have nothing to lose if you truly no longer believe you will marry this person, and should put your unwillingness to marry this person in writing. ASAP. Emailing would be the quickest way to get the ball rolling on preventing her from entering the country, and be WRITTEN notice you no longer intend to marry her.

IF this advice is wrong as to how to go about properly notification of your intent, or potential fraud on the part of your beneficiary, then one of the four agencies you notified will quickly direct you to the proper channels, and/or do so themselves.

I do not claim to be any sort of expert. I am merely someone who has had the good fortune to find a truly wonderful woman, who happens to be a citizen of another country so we are forced to go through this process... Every step of the way feels like it has the risk of problems, from minor bumps to major disaster. While there is, of course, some risk of a fiancé being turned away at POE, I think the likelihood is low enough that it should be just another of the lower level worries along this stressful journey. J and I are going through this because we love each other and greatly desire to spend the rest of our lives together.

I suggest everyone going through the fiancé visa process choose to always remain hopeful about the ultimate outcome. But be as careful as you can submitting the proper paperwork and documentation, knowing you can and will make some mistakes along the way. From there the whole thing is out of your hands. At every step the USCIS adjudicator, consular officer, and immigration officer at the point of entry, all possess sweeping powers to delay or prevent your dream from becoming reality. Still, your chances of success improve at every stage. Be hopeful!

Advice from other members here can be very helpful, but every case is different, and all suggestions from others, even based on their own personal experience should be taken with a grain of salt.

[Jersey Girl 2]

Ready4ONE, thanks for finding that information. Seems clear now what lampshade can do.

Beyond that, as bradyvicky tried to point out, it's probably best to abandon her physically. That is, do not meet or accompany her if she tries to enter. Not that the USC is required to accompany the entering foreigner, but that he can reinforce the message to her that he no longer supports the petition. If she's smart (as well as cunning), she'll get it: his withdrawal from the process makes it impossible for her to stay legally.