Crimea votes to secede from Ukraine and join Russia

[Asia 2,499]

Again so what. That's not a resignation. Just like skipping a cabinet meeting to play golf isn't a resignation. Unfortunate but a fact of life.

I imagine the reason you don't give links, is because you're pulling that out of a place no one wants to see.

If you compare leaving and playing golf to running away in the middle of the night from the sinking ship you put into that sinking, then I guess we have nothing to talk about anymore.

Here are the links:

https://news.pn/en/politics/99434

http://nypost.com/2014/03/17/us-imposes-sanctions-on-russian-officials-after-crimea-vote/

http://www.dailydot.com/politics/crimea-referendum-123-percent-sevastopol/

My bad, I confused Sevastopol with the whole Crimea. Sorry.

They told about the voting yesterday on the TV and I guess I didn't pay enough attention.

[Dakine10 5,452]

If you compare leaving and playing golf to running away in the middle of the night from the sinking ship you put into that sinking, then I guess we have nothing to talk about anymore.

Here are the links:

https://news.pn/en/politics/99434

http://nypost.com/2014/03/17/us-imposes-sanctions-on-russian-officials-after-crimea-vote/

http://www.dailydot.com/politics/crimea-referendum-123-percent-sevastopol/

My bad, I confused Sevastopol with the whole Crimea. Sorry.

They told about the voting yesterday on the TV and I guess I didn't pay enough attention.

1,274,096 people voted in the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, giving the plebiscite an 83.1% turnout in that region.^[c][1]

In the evening of 16 March 2014, Mikhail Malyshev, the Crimean election Spokesman, reported that as of 20:00, 1,250,427 people or 81.36% voted in the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, 274,136 or 89.50% in Sevastopol, and 1,524,563 or 82.71% in total.^[91]ITAR-TASS incorrectly^{[citation needed]} reported this as 1,724,563 voters in total,^[92][93] but corrected it later.^[94] The error lead some people to report a 123% turnout in Sevastopol.^{[95][96][97][98]}

According to the Central Election Commission of Ukraine on February 28, 2014 there were 1,534,815 registered voters in the autonomous republic of Crimea and 309,774 in the city of Sevastopol, which totals to 1,844,589 voters in the both Ukrainian regions.^[99]

Edited March 20, 2014 by Dakine10

[BatmanUSA 105]

And can you believe that there were a few thousand votes more than the actual population in Crimea?

Add that to the fact that most Ukrainian an Tatars haven't voted at all.

Fraud as usual in Russia.

and Fraud as usual is the USA... What ever happened to the Black Panthers who were armed with bats and nightsticks while standing outside of polling locations during Obama's Presidential election day.??

What was Obama's response when the Egyptian military overthrew its president.??

This whole Crimea/Russia situation is only an issue because it involves Russia..

[BatmanUSA 105]

Who said what?

There was a video footage of his bodyguards (or something) packing all his valuables during night.

He was supposed to sign the documents.

But instead he decided to run away. Like a coward. Instead of facing the issues in his own country. The issues he and his buddies created.

He was chased out by a group of armed Pro-EU thugs... Where was Obama when this group overthrew the elected government in Ukraine.?

Obama supported those demonstrations and he supported the terrorists who overthrew the Pro-Russian Ukraine Government...

Obama also is helping the terrorists who are attempting to overthrow the Syrian government..

Obama quotes the UN charter that says all people have a right to decide their destiny... But that must not apply to Russians.

people talk about the cold war as never ending, and that's probable more due to western policies than by Russian policies..

[Asia 2,499]

1,274,096 people voted in the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, giving the plebiscite an 83.1% turnout in that region.^[c][1]

In the evening of 16 March 2014, Mikhail Malyshev, the Crimean election Spokesman, reported that as of 20:00, 1,250,427 people or 81.36% voted in the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, 274,136 or 89.50% in Sevastopol, and 1,524,563 or 82.71% in total.^[91]ITAR-TASS incorrectly^{[citation needed]} reported this as 1,724,563 voters in total,^[92][93] but corrected it later.^[94] The error lead some people to report a 123% turnout in Sevastopol.^{[95][96][97][98]}

According to the Central Election Commission of Ukraine on February 28, 2014 there were 1,534,815 registered voters in the autonomous republic of Crimea and 309,774 in the city of Sevastopol, which totals to 1,844,589 voters in the both Ukrainian regions.

So it seems that all those links I posted were wrong. OK.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

and Fraud as usual is the USA... What ever happened to the Black Panthers who were armed with bats and nightsticks while standing outside of polling locations during Obama's Presidential election day.??

What was Obama's response when the Egyptian military overthrew its president.??

This whole Crimea/Russia situation is only an issue because it involves Russia..

Are you talking about the 2 dudes standing outside the voting office? How is that fraud? How many complaints came in that they deterred people from voting? If they stopped one person from voting for the other party or had there been any type of incident, they'd be in jail.

Same thing happened in 2004, when boatloads of black people were basically scared out of their wits to vote:

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/16/opinion/16herbert.html

He was chased out by a group of armed Pro-EU thugs... Where was Obama when this group overthrew the elected government in Ukraine.?

Obama supported those demonstrations and he supported the terrorists who overthrew the Pro-Russian Ukraine Government...

Obama also is helping the terrorists who are attempting to overthrow the Syrian government..

Obama quotes the UN charter that says all people have a right to decide their destiny... But that must not apply to Russians.

people talk about the cold war as never ending, and that's probable more due to western policies than by Russian policies..

Please post the links saying he is supporting terrorists.

[Asia 2,499]

He was chased out by a group of armed Pro-EU thugs... Where was Obama when this group overthrew the elected government in Ukraine.?

Seriously? It's Obama fault?

It was Ukrainian issue.

Between people who are looking into west and their President, who's looking into east and his big, great bother.

It was Ukrainian internal conflict.

Until Yanukovych decided to involve Russia.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Seriously? It's Obama fault?

It was Ukrainian issue.

Between people who are looking into west and their President, who's looking into east and his big, great bother.

It was Ukrainian internal conflict.

Until Yanukovych decided to involve Russia.

Don't waste your breath.

[Crashed~N2~Me 970]

What should he do then? Military is the only option outside of sanctions.

1st) Sorry slow reply BFF. Didn't have a choice. There is a new modder amongst us = he dishes but can't take = he likes to belittle in response to a challenge but if he is fed his own medicine = I get a 48 hour time out. (it was worth it but.. I have been reminded it's better to fight the argument - not the poster. Which is the smarter thing to do )

2nd) Difficult to summarize but something like this = Come out for PC dressed in a NASCAR style Jumper - covered in corporate sponsor patches....& state something along the lines of = If the Crimean vote is legit (shrug - I can't think of a Cochran style rhyme to finish sentence)...(wait..I got 1)....The Ukraine must split. 40+ million consumers in that country ready to consume & we got most of 'em - pop a cork & celebrate. Not a perfect coup (with a sing song voice) but still a smashing success! God Bless America!

[BatmanUSA 105]

I didn't say it was Obama's fault... Please take off your King Obama tee-shirt and read what I wrote...

I said where was Obama when the protesters where ousting a legitimate government.? as of now, he is involved in the Crimean vote because he says that vote was illegal and went against the current government in Ukraine, and the current government in Ukraine was not elected.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

I didn't say it was Obama's fault... Please take off your King Obama tee-shirt and read what I wrote...

I said where was Obama when the protesters where ousting a legitimate government.? as of now, he is involved in the Crimean vote because he says that vote was illegal and went against the current government in Ukraine, and the current government in Ukraine was not elected.

You do realize, you and folks on the right are the ONLY folks that call him that? God, King, Dictator. These are your words, not those on the left. I'm starting to think the right loves him more than the left.

[BatmanUSA 105]

Are you talking about the 2 dudes standing outside the voting office? How is that fraud? How many complaints came in that they deterred people from voting? If they stopped one person from voting for the other party or had there been any type of incident, they'd be in jail.

Same thing happened in 2004, when boatloads of black people were basically scared out of their wits to vote:

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/16/opinion/16herbert.html

Please post the links saying he is supporting terrorists.

Its a know fact that Obama is supplying aid to the Syrian "freedom fighters" ...

and it has been reported in many news outlets....

you go look it up yourself..

You must watch Al Sharpton and MSNBC, there were more than 2 dudes, and there were complaints of harassment however Eric Holder refused to prosecute even though a justice department investigation showed there was enough evidence to support the filing of charges and convictions... But Obviously Al Sharpton didn't tell you that... You should watch more CNN and BBC... Fox is obviously slanted republican and MSNBC is obviously slanted democratic so you never get the full story there... and Rush and Hannity don't wear tin foil hats, they have F'ing tin foil body wraps.!

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Its a know fact that Obama is supplying aid to the Syrian "freedom fighters" ...

and it has been reported in many news outlets....

you go look it up yourself..

You must watch Al Sharpton and MSNBC, there were more than 2 dudes, and there were complaints of harassment however Eric Holder refused to prosecute even though a justice department investigation showed there was enough evidence to support the filing of charges and convictions... But Obviously Al Sharpton didn't tell you that... You should watch more CNN and BBC... Fox is obviously slanted republican and MSNBC is obviously slanted democratic so you never get the full story there... and Rush and Hannity don't wear tin foil hats, they have F'ing tin foil body wraps.!

What's wrong? You made the claim. You should provide the proof. It's that simple.

I watch CNN and BBC. I saw the video with the two guys, and the police asked them to leave. I didn't know I had Al's direct phone line. Tell him to give me a call, I'm trying to get in.

[BatmanUSA 105]

You do realize, you and folks on the right are the ONLY folks that call him that? God, King, Dictator. These are your words, not those on the left. I'm starting to think the right loves him more than the left.

You don't know me and you have no business throwing me in with the folks on the right.

Obama got those nicknames because he continually ignores federal laws, he does not uphold the law and he does not believe he must Preside within the constraints of the US Constitution. He has demonstrated this time and time again by refusing to enforce laws he disagrees with, and he illegally issues executive orders which change laws which have been ratified by congress..

The people on the left do not call him those names because I believe they agree and support him 100%, and they also have no regard for the laws and the constitution of the United States of America... Obama has been quotes as saying, the constitution is a flawed document... well fine, that is his opinion, and he is welcome to work within the legal framework to change it.. However he has several times issued executive orders which contrast the constitution and the bottom line is, the majority of Americans really do not care...

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

You don't know me and you have no business throwing me in with the folks on the right.

Obama got those nicknames because he continually ignores federal laws, he does not uphold the law and he does not believe he must Preside within the constraints of the US Constitution. He has demonstrated this time and time again by refusing to enforce laws he disagrees with, and he illegally issues executive orders which change laws which have been ratified by congress..

The people on the left do not call him those names because I believe they agree and support him 100%, and they also have no regard for the laws and the constitution of the United States of America... Obama has been quotes as saying, the constitution is a flawed document... well fine, that is his opinion, and he is welcome to work within the legal framework to change it.. However he has several times issued executive orders which contrast the constitution and the bottom line is, the majority of Americans really do not care...

You mean like the way you judge all liberals?

You also assume that I watch MSNBC. Do you know what I watch on TV? Or are you making a blanket judgement since I don't loathe Obama. It's like you have to love him or hate him. There is no in between. There are a lot of folks that don't agree with what he does on the left, but they don't cry and call him names like a spoiled child.

Edited March 20, 2014 by Su and Marvin