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Clearly that's the case, since you didn't actually answer any of the questions I posited.

Last I checked, Gretchen Carlson isn't law enforcement.

His citizenship is germane to a reporter who is reporting a story for their audience. An illegal alien in America is not entitled to the same rights as a legal permanent resident, or a US citizen.

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His citizenship is germane to a reporter who is reporting a story for their audience. An illegal alien in America is not entitled to the same rights as a legal permanent resident, or a US citizen.

Undocumented persons are not prevented from pursuing legal actions, even though they are not entitled to the exact same rights of LPRs or citizens. However, citizenship is not germane in this matter. If he were a citizen, he'd just be an idiot. If he were a LPR, he'd just be an idiot. As a tourist on a valid visa, he'd just be an idiot. As an H1B, J1, F1, he'd just be an idiot. The question is not "does a person's immigration status make his claims sufficient to be pursued at trial?" but rather "do the facts as presented make his claims sufficient to be pursued at trial?"

And again, I find it highly doubtful that anyone not of Hispanic origin (or seeming to be so) would have had their status even questioned.

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Won't go anywhere. USSCOTUS has held that police and social services departments are not responsible for the protection of citizens; even if the rescue unit did botch the rescue (which there is absolutely nothing to suggest that they did - opening a submerged vehicle is necessarily going to be an extended extrication) there's no reason that EMS/Rescue should have any greater level of protective responsibility - if anything they should have LESS, as they have very little means for proactively controlling these situations.

BTW, good luck proving that the extrication was the cause of ANY of the injuries...

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Can he do that if he was not supposed to be in the country to begin with? Also, how can he prove he is having bad dreams? Or that the bad dreams are the result of the "inappropriate" response from the EMT? dry.png

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hyperbole

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06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

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Can he do that if he was not supposed to be in the country to begin with? Also, how can he prove he is having bad dreams? Or that the bad dreams are the result of the "inappropriate" response from the EMT? dry.png

Status is no bar to initiating an action.

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Regardless of whether he is illegal or not, they still did the best they could in the situation. I'm not sure of the laws in Colorado, but I would hope there is a Good Samaritan law in place. The other option for this guy would have been death. I think he is better off in the position he is now and should be thankful for being alive. These first responders risked their own lives to save this guy. So they didn't realize he was in the vehicle at first. It doesn't look to me as though they have any equipment to be able to go underwater to investigate. I think they did the right thing. Once they started towing the car out of the water, they discovered he was in the vehicle, and they took appropriate action. It was probably easier for them to get him out this way, than for them to go under the water themselves anyway!

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Interesting... According to the op-ed, this person 'is thinking about suing', which means IF he decides to sue, he will need to get a lawyer who would be willing to represent him in court, before a justice who would have to find enough reason to grant him motion for a trial.

Since nobody really knows his immigration status - which is immaterial, according the USC, for this particular matter - the only thing this person can be accused at the moment is thoughtcrime.

Indeed, hyperbole is the bestest thing in the universe! rofl.gifrofl.gifrofl.gif

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Regardless of whether he is illegal or not, they still did the best they could in the situation. I'm not sure of the laws in Colorado, but I would hope there is a Good Samaritan law in place. The other option for this guy would have been death. I think he is better off in the position he is now and should be thankful for being alive. These first responders risked their own lives to save this guy. So they didn't realize he was in the vehicle at first. It doesn't look to me as though they have any equipment to be able to go underwater to investigate. I think they did the right thing. Once they started towing the car out of the water, they discovered he was in the vehicle, and they took appropriate action. It was probably easier for them to get him out this way, than for them to go under the water themselves anyway!

They put divers in the water, and were unable to identify any other occupants of the vehicle (NB: they were checking multiple vehicles in a flooded river).

Interesting... According to the op-ed, this person 'is thinking about suing', which means IF he decides to sue, he will need to get a lawyer who would be willing to represent him in court, before a justice who would have to find enough reason to grant him motion for a trial.

Since nobody really knows his immigration status - which is immaterial, according the USC, for this particular matter - the only thing this person can be accused at the moment is thoughtcrime.

Indeed, hyperbole is the bestest thing in the universe! rofl.gifrofl.gifrofl.gif

Well, he's at least hired an attorney (Ed Ferszt, whoever the hell that is) who has filed pre-lawsuit paperwork (IANAL, but it goes further than just thinking about it).

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Will you just stop with the silly soundbites.

It's all they know.

They listen to sensationalist media, eat it all up, and regurgitate it back as if it's an independent thought.

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They put divers in the water, and were unable to identify any other occupants of the vehicle (NB: they were checking multiple vehicles in a flooded river).

Well, he's at least hired an attorney (Ed Ferszt, whoever the hell that is) who has filed pre-lawsuit paperwork (IANAL, but it goes further than just thinking about it).

Still, so far he is only guilty of thoughcrime

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