Marriage on tourist visa? Could US citizen be responsible/guilty? Marriage fraud.

[Possiblymaybe 371]

Just keep stalking the Facebook and let us know when he gets approved.

There is one big difference between the people on a public forum and attorneys. Only one of those groups is looking to profit from your situation.

[MacUK 983]

In reference to him planning to immigrate here on tourist visa, I have emails us talking about him coming here and marrying even though I changed my mind when he came here and he blackmailed me.

I also have a screenshot of facebook page where it says he is engaged to his girlfriend in his country, he got engaged to her right after the filing for divorce, he went there and got engaged.

I also have printouts of the phone number he texted of the other woman he cheated on me with here after 7 months of marriage, not the content of messages but just her number and nonstop texting.

I also have my email to him basically chasing him for divorce as he was trying to drag it out and he changed his number so I wouldn't be able to reach him, and I kept emailing him practically begging for divorce and he kept ignoring it until I mentioned in the email that I will report him.

I also have a friend's affidavit where it states that I wasn't happy when I got married, that he forced me, that he didn't wanna be affectionate towards me, etc.

Also I have witnesses when he hit me once and threw a burning cigarette at me.

He just didn't like me, he didn't wanna sleep with me, kiss me, etc.

He also moved out 7 months after marriage but he put down in divorce papers that he moved out the following year to make it appear that we lived longer. Well USCIS can check by address change.

I also wrote a detailed affidavit.

I also have a letter from my psychologist stating that I suffered emotional consequences as a result of this fraud and that I was on medications.

I hate to say it, and I'm far from being an expert but what you've written doesn't look to me like PROOF of fraud.

It looks like proof that he was a ####### husband and all round nasty individual but not proof of fraud.

If you have something that you can prove is from him that says something like 'You marry me so I can get my greencard or I'll do untold nastiness to you', that would be proof of fraud.

[Harpa Timsah 13,258]

I don't think anyone here can speculate on chance of approval, Aisha. They are just making guesses and no one here has all the facts. They are trying to say, though, that whatever the outcome, you can't be the decider. You have done your part by reporting it, and now you'll have to wait.

Best of luck to you. I think there is a good chance he will be denied I-751, but I am also just guessing.

[aussie_jason 195]

Even if his I-751 does get denied then ICE aren't just going to knock on his door and deport him, plus didn't I read that he is currently back in his home country?

Did he really just blackmail you on the basis of you corroborating with him to get married on the VWP? That seems like a very weak case for blackmail and surely you would have then researched the ramifications of that and came to the realization that intent alone can not be used to deny AOS? This case doesn't rally make much sense unless there was more to the blackmailing.

[QueenComley 295]

I hate to say it, and I'm far from being an expert but what you've written doesn't look to me like PROOF of fraud.

It looks like proof that he was a ####### husband and all round nasty individual but not proof of fraud.

If you have something that you can prove is from him that says something like 'You marry me so I can get my greencard or I'll do untold nastiness to you', that would be proof of fraud.

I think MacUK is correct.

OP, my heart breaks for you. You truly loved someone but, as MacUK stated... He was a ####### husband.

If this had happened to me, or anybody else, Im sure the first feeling we would all experience is pure rage and anger at the injustice of it all... as you are now experiencing. We would all want him out of the US and on the next plane home ASAP to teach him a lesson so we would never have to see him again...

However, you have done your bit, You have reported him and USCIS will conclude what (if anything) will be done about it.

Now..... Let it go... take time to lick your wounds and heal. He was a nasty individual who took advantage of you. Feel pity and sorrow for the poor girl he cheated on you with because now she has the terrible misfortune to have a liar, a cheat and a con artist for a partner.

You have a second chance to move on in life and find a WONDERFUL man... Lucky you... and you deserve it.

A little advice my mom told me that stuck with me... "if he doesn't make you the center of his universe, don't make him the center of yours".

Lean on friends and family to get you through the coming months and keep yourself busy. Cut all contact with this man. The best revenge you could serve him is to be happy and successful without him.

Edited March 16, 2014 by QueenComley

[SingleDad2usc 71]

War does not determine who is right - only who is left.

[aishabay 2]

Replying to one of the questions-- was there more to blackmailing? SADLY, no, there was no more. I was in soo much fear that I would get in trouble so I married him. I was soo stupid, that should have been a huge red flag. I read online where it said that you can go to jail for 5 years and $250,000 so that scared me so much and I literally thought I was gonna get in trouble. He made it seem like that the way he talked. I also loved him so was hoping it would work out. See, he came here on a tourist visa for 2 reasons, 1-because fiancee visa takes a while he was afraid I was gonna change my mind, so timing. 2-he used it as blackmail in case I said no when he came here which was right, I said no because it felt so wrong, my gut feeling was telling me something bad is going to happen....

And to EVERYONE else here who is saying, he is likely to stay, will never get deported, etc.....

Are I-751 WAIVERS REALLY that easy? I heard they are tough to prove and you need a lot of evidence and the burden is on the applicant....

So Idk how he would get approved if I reported everything plus he moved out 2 months after conditional green card.

USCIS is not that dumb....

Maybe he may have a small chance of success with an expensive lawyer and a claim of that he married me out of love and would make up a story about me, etc...

[Boiler 45,852]

You have posted quite a bit about this.

You have consulted 3 Lawyers at least.

It never occurred to you to check out the validity of his claim before marrying?

Even in this posts you seem to imply it was not just the 'Blackmail' that caused you to marry.

[Me_Theo 25]

Do not worry,If he has conditional green card , also you have reported to USCIS about him, with/by documents or without / by document,USCIS will Not give him new green card ,his 1-751 will NOT work for him, he should find another way to stay in U.S. May be he is trying to find new girl from facebook or else to find a way to stay in U.S. Let he does every thing he wants. Do not try to be evil. go to church ask god help you and make you more strong to move on.

If you have a divorce now, just move on and try to find new thing for enjoy. If you do not have a divorce, go make it

Do not stir the again, If he leaved let goes Just let him to goes.

If you really scare he makes a problem for you change your home or go to your family home for a while.

Do not try to find a new boyfriend until your feel get back to normal.

Love yourself , forget the abuse man. JUST move on.

Edited March 17, 2014 by Me_Theo

[arnav 10]

Replying to one of the questions-- was there more to blackmailing? SADLY, no, there was no more. I was in soo much fear that I would get in trouble so I married him. I was soo stupid, that should have been a huge red flag. I read online where it said that you can go to jail for 5 years and $250,000 so that scared me so much and I literally thought I was gonna get in trouble. He made it seem like that the way he talked. I also loved him so was hoping it would work out. See, he came here on a tourist visa for 2 reasons, 1-because fiancee visa takes a while he was afraid I was gonna change my mind, so timing. 2-he used it as blackmail in case I said no when he came here which was right, I said no because it felt so wrong, my gut feeling was telling me something bad is going to happen....

And to EVERYONE else here who is saying, he is likely to stay, will never get deported, etc.....

Are I-751 WAIVERS REALLY that easy? I heard they are tough to prove and you need a lot of evidence and the burden is on the applicant....

So Idk how he would get approved if I reported everything plus he moved out 2 months after conditional green card.

USCIS is not that dumb....

Maybe he may have a small chance of success with an expensive lawyer and a claim of that he married me out of love and would make up a story about me, etc...[/quot

So I was right in my last post "you are scared now and try to save your self".

That's why you went to see 3 lawyer's.

On your safe side.

Well no one of us don't know the real truth. Wait n watch on his renewal.

If he is honest then nothing will stop him.

It's depend what reason he will give to uscis. But the way you scared it's look like you are hiding something too.

I don't understand he just came here on tourist visa and blackmail u for marriage how? What he has to blackmail u.

And when you know he is blackmailing you why u marry to him. Can't digest.

I am pretty sure some where money involved in this case.

[arnav 10]

So I was right in my last post "you are scared now and try to save your self".

That's why you went to see 3 lawyer's.

On your safe side.

Well no one of us don't know the real truth. Wait n watch on his renewal.

If he is honest then nothing will stop him.

It's depend what reason he will give to uscis. But the way you scared it's look like you are hiding something too.

I don't understand he just came here on tourist visa and blackmail u for marriage how? What he has to blackmail u.

And when you know he is blackmailing you why u marry to him. Can't digest.

I am pretty sure some where money involved in this case.

Edited March 17, 2014 by arnav

[David & Diana R 1,005]

Thanks for replying. What do you mean I will be granted my wish as soon as I figure it out? My wish is that he be deported or lose green card. There, is it gonna be granted now.

I am so disappointed that almost no one here believes me and says "your evidence doesn't look good", you look like a bitter spouse, etc. The marriage lasted 7 month. That alone should appear suspicious. I am on antidepressants. This guy ruined me in more than one way. First guy I loved and was intimate with scammed me for a green card.

What you are not getting is you HAVE TO PROVE THESE THINGS. You are refusing to listen to those that are trying to help you. You are angry because they are not giving you the answers you wanted or expected to hear. The reality is: Your psychologist is useless, he or she can only report what you told her. That IS NOT evidence at all. Antidepressants, mean nothing. Everyone and their cousin is on antidepressants, even illigeal aliens. Look get over it. This is just going to eat you up and your spouse will win. Let it go...move on...don't waste your time trying to get him deported. You CANNOT and will not get him deported, no matter how hard you try.

Talk to your psychologist, I bet you will get the same answers. But then you will have to find a new psychologist because you won't agree.

Give up! Let it go! Let GOD! Good Luck

[SingleDad2usc 71]

Not only that, but look at the entire "Effects of Major Family Changes on Immigration Benefits" subforum. As pointed out above, OP bears equal responsibility for this "fraud's" original marriage-based petition. Lo'n'behold, OP runs a parallel topic to encourage more "marriage fraud" posts. All these posts presently fill up over 50% of the subforum. Not due to a foreign network's elaborate marriage scam. Very simply: estranged USC spouses assert their "civic rights". They pay zero recognition to the fact that by hastily consummating unequal marriage and petitioning USCIS together as "bona-fide" marriage - they entrap the immigrant into position of unequal power. The moment a marriage breaks (which is not at all unusual in the country of over-50% divorce rate), they petition the USCIS the second time: with accusation of their (till death do us apart) spouses of no less than fraud. Unless a foreign fraud network is operating, why waste USCIS's resources on this second petition? Because, per OP above, she can't live with her ex-spouse happiness... Is there anything else in a life of a US citizen to live for? Family, friends, community, arts, sciences, world unification, China's credit contraction (which is soon to impact world and US economy), travel to marvel uniqueness of nature, learn languages, get a life... Have others proud of you not for whistle-blowing and making other person/their family miserable, but for making people happy for goodness sake

[Avery Cates 1,141]

I am pretty sure some where money involved in this case.

Likely. There's a few thing not adding up.

I think someone didn't get their green card payout.

[BirdyGirl85 23]

I was in soo much fear that I would get in trouble so I married him. I was soo stupid, that should have been a huge red flag. I read online where it said that you can go to jail for 5 years and $250,000 so that scared me so much and I literally thought I was gonna get in trouble.

I don't understand why you thought him coming on a tourist visa you would get in this kind of trouble for NOT marrying him? What the heck? Yeah maybe if you filed for the K-1 Visa and you both knew it was fraud from the beginning. But in your situation? If anything I would be afraid of getting in trouble for marrying him because I didn't want to marry him after all and I was marrying him on a tourist visa, with intent of marrying before he got here.

I mean even if you file K-1 visa and the person gets here and you decide after all you don't want to get married, you don't have to go through with the marriage in the end if you don't want to. I really don't understand why you thought you would get in trouble for not marrying him, unless you thought he was going to hurt you if you didn't because of all of his threats... Maybe you should of called the police because of the threats and made him leave your home... Although I know you still loved him and wanted it to work, but that was not the right way, marrying when you were not ready.

Sorry you are going through this though.