Marriage on tourist visa? Could US citizen be responsible/guilty? Marriage fraud.

[arnav 10]

It's look like Paper marriage to me for money. We heard from you here , but didn't heard from him.

I don't think so any foreigner came here and they are that much bold to start blackmail to a USC specially living in NYC .

And if he blackmailed you for marriage why you go for interview with him. I think you are scared now and want to make sure nothing will happen to you , if money involve in it. you said he start cheat on you. May be you cheat on him too .

Why he said he will pay you $4000 , why not 5000, 10000. May be you asking for more and he can't afford and you blackmailed for money since get marry and now he get tired of this and tell you do whatever you want to do.

Anyway if he is honest he can prove on his next interview not a big problem for him.

enjoy your life.

[Anulife 1]

I don't know what ICE will say, but I don't see you as a victim, sorry. Choices have consequences. Going the "easy" route (fraud/tourist visa) comes with consequences. In your case it was a relationship that wasn't real, psychological issues, and becoming bitter and broken. I know it is the hardest thing to do, but let this man go on with his life. How can you try and push fraud on him when you were an equal party?

If I was you I would continue with my psychologist, work on myself, and defining my definition of love (you say you loved him but how can you love someone who is blackmailing you and won't touch you??)

Once upon a time I had an ex that left me at the alter and married someone else. I was bitter and wanted revenge. Eventually a friend told me that HE (my ex) was not the problem, I was because I wouldn't accept it and do what I needed to do to restructure my life. I'm telling you the same.

[aishabay 2]

I don't know what ICE will say, but I don't see you as a victim, sorry. Choices have consequences. Going the "easy" route (fraud/tourist visa) comes with consequences. In your case it was a relationship that wasn't real, psychological issues, and becoming bitter and broken. I know it is the hardest thing to do, but let this man go on with his life. How can you try and push fraud on him when you were an equal party?

If I was you I would continue with my psychologist, work on myself, and defining my definition of love (you say you loved him but how can you love someone who is blackmailing you and won't touch you??)

Once upon a time I had an ex that left me at the alter and married someone else. I was bitter and wanted revenge. Eventually a friend told me that HE (my ex) was not the problem, I was because I wouldn't accept it and do what I needed to do to restructure my life. I'm telling you the same.

I thought this was a real marriage. He forced me into marriage by saying that I promised him, etc and I loved him also so was hoping it would work.

Yes he came here on tourist visa and used that against me, but I married under DURESS, how is that fraud? Thanks.

[Anulife 1]

What I meant was that (in my opinion) you were an equal part of the fraud because you helped him plan to come here by tourist visa for purposes of marriage instead of doing things the right way and going through K1. You should have looked at his character. If he stood up and took an oath to be honest, but lied, did you not think he was capable of lying to you?

But fraud aside, my intent is not to bash you but to be supportive. Think about your statements as if you were hearing them from an outsider. You said when he got here, you no longer wanted to marry him. You saw things about him that you didn't lie. You say he threatened and blackmailed you. No one can blackmail you unless you think you have did something wrong (fraud.) How could you have thought the marriage was real if it was based on threats and blackmail??

You can't serve two masters. It can't be duress and love. This makes no sense, its not going to make sense to the authorities either.

I think what you want is for people to agree with you, to feel sorry for you (and I do in a way because you seem lost and confused) but I really think what you need is to let go. There are no guarantees in love. You've reported it, let go. He wants to be with someone else, let go.

Edited March 15, 2014 by Anulife

[aishabay 2]

What I meant was that (in my opinion) you were an equal part of the fraud because you helped him plan to come here by tourist visa for purposes of marriage instead of doing things the right way and going through K1. You should have looked at his character. If he stood up and took an oath to be honest, but lied, did you not think he was capable of lying to you?

But fraud aside, my intent is not to bash you but to be supportive. Think about your statements as if you were hearing them from an outsider. You said when he got here, you no longer wanted to marry him. You saw things about him that you didn't lie. You say he threatened and blackmailed you. No one can blackmail you unless you think you have did something wrong (fraud.) How could you have thought the marriage was real if it was based on threats and blackmail??

You can't serve two masters. It can't be duress and love. This makes no sense, its not going to make sense to the authorities either.

I think what you want is for people to agree with you, to feel sorry for you (and I do in a way because you seem lost and confused) but I really think what you need is to let go. There are no guarantees in love. You've reported it, let go. He wants to be with someone else, let go.

Thank you for replying to me. I SWEAR to God I thought it was a real marriage even though there was blackmail involved. I lived with the guy and loved him.

But even though I did not wanna marry him I was hoping it would work. Yes it is hard to believe someone was that stupid but I was. I was only 20 and was not mature/smart enough to realize that and there was no one to guide me. I just wish people would believe me this is how it was. I was so scared of him.But I also loved him. Even my mom was scared thinking that he would get me in trouble for something.

And I talked to a lawyer and they said that I wouldn't be responsible since I am a US citizen and they don't go after US citizens, especially since I did it under duress. I reported him and if he really removes conditions after everything then I have no faith anymore.

And I can't just move on, in order to move on I would have to forgive or he would need to be deported.....I can't just forget it...

[Boiler 45,837]

He will also be saying it was a real marriage.

[christeen 966]

Yes, the fact you say it was a real marriage and he will say it was a real marriage is probably why he will get to stay... I stand by that you can't marry for love AND duress at the same time... And yes, your naivety and the fact you knew what he was doing was not the correct way to immigrate (using a tourist visa for immigration) does put some fault on you for the situation... If you only see yourself as an innocent victim, I think you are missing a valuable life lesson...

[SingleDad2usc 71]

OP may have too much time on her hands; but USCIS doesn't. Why does every USC, once abandoned by spouse, chooses to petition USCIS for the second time - now claiming that bona-fide marriage was NOT??

[NikLR 13,231]

IMHO, move on. Forget about it. You're on the hook for the I-864. Do not talk to him. To not keep in contact. Leave him alone. Revenge never helps.

You are divorced. When my husband divorced his ex, the last thing he got from her was the divorce papers. He has had no contact with her since he divorced her. It's quite possible to do that. I have no contact with 99% of my ex boyfriends. The only one I even talk to is because we have a child together.

Walk away, look up and forward and stop looking back. Forgiveness to him, to yourself, only comes from you. Go to church. Find a counselor. Move on with your life.

Edited March 15, 2014 by NLR

[novedsac 355]

And I can't just move on, in order to move on I would have to forgive or he would need to be deported.....I can't just forget it...

Well, at least you've identified an alternative … start working on the forgiveness part, because the probability of deportation is exceedingly small.

Even if it were to happen, his right to due process would drag it on for years.

[Boiler 45,837]

Well, at least you've identified an alternative … start working on the forgiveness part, because the probability of deportation is exceedingly small.

Even if it were to happen, his right to due process would drag it on for years.

Immigration Reform seems unlikely for this year, but no doubt it will be back on the agenda for next year. So where is his downside?

[NikLR 13,231]

please inform me how this relates to the subject?

OP, seek a counselor.

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Edited March 15, 2014 by NLR

[Ontarkie 14,345]

~~Posts removed for not staying on topic with the OP, please stick to the topic~~

[aishabay 2]

Thank you all for responding

Most responses here say that he will probably get to stay, etc...

Well I have spoken to 3 attorneys who all have said he most likely, like 90% sure, won't get removal of conditions approved with all my reports. They said that they ask for A LOT of into in I-751 WAIVERS, because they are suspicious about it and the immigrant has to prove bona fide marriage.

He does not have a lot of evidence, and with all my info submitted, his case is not strong at all....

The way you guys are talking, to me it seems that all people who deceive citizens for green card will get away with it, just because they "lived:" for a certain period of time with the citizen spouse and have collected enough "evidence" of that.....and if they CLAIM that it was a real marriage, then it will get approved?

In my opinion, I don't think it's that easy.....that's why they have the conditional period in place as well as the waiver..

[Boiler 45,837]

Does it matter? If it is 90% or 9%.

He is staying anyway.

Edited March 16, 2014 by Boiler