Malaysia Airlines loses contact with jet carrying 239 people

[LibCampFireClub 635]

In the wake of MH307 the world has become aware as how little passengers and flight crew can do when faced with madmen in the cockpit. Currently, if they lock the door they can depressurize the cabin and kill everyone on board. The pilots union has successfully fought for years to prevent cameras, voice, and flight data recording that transmits in real time to an off-plane receiving station. This is why we have black boxes, because the paranoid pilots say that having cameras and voice recording during the flight will impede their ability to pilot. Yet, we have cameras in 7-11, and dash cams on police cars. At the very least, flight attendants should have the ability to send a distress signal to the ground, and even better have the ability to call the control tower. These are currently not allowed anywhere in the world, and if they are they can be disabled on the flight deck.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

http://www.straitstimes.com/breaking-news/se-asia/story/bomoh-threatens-sue-malaysian-minister-and-islamic-board-defamation-2014

http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2014/03/19/Missing-MH370-Bomoh-may-sue/

http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2014/03/12/Missing-MH370-arrest-bomoh-kj/

Thanks for the links. Witch craft is common there. I don't think it's a good idea to be in the open like that, considering the families.

[Karee 4,191]

We weren't asked! Air Force defends delayed radar blips report

The Royal Thai Air Force has defended itself against international media criticism that it delayed reporting radar blips that might have been the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370.

A combination photo shows various artwork and well-wishes put up by members of the public for the passengers and crew of the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 at a viewing gallery at Kuala Lumpur International Airport on Wednesday, March 19. ( REUTERS photo)

Air Marshal Monthol Satchukorn, an air force spokesman, explained that the tracking of Flight 370 using the air force’s radar was carried out on the request of Malaysian officials on Tuesday, March 11, after Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak told a press conference the previous Saturday — the day the plane disappeared with 239 people on aboard — there were two assumptions about the plane’s possible flight path: one heading to northern Thailand; and the other heading south to the Strait of Malacca.

The air force then made a thorough retrospective examination of its radar information and found an interesting piece of information.

After it turned from its regular course towards Beijing, Flight MH370 was seen on several military radars in Thailand, Malaysia and Indonesia.

The spokesman did not confirm whether the unidentified plane the military detected was Flight 370 but said its direction was consistent with Mr Najib's second assumption.

The information was sent for verification by Malaysia’s aeronautical radio communication authorities on Tuesday, AM Monthol said, describing it as a Thai-Malay military cooperative effort and part of ongoing joint efforts by the international community to discover the truth about the missing plane.

“The reason we did not raise this matter earlier was because the flight path of the detected plane was not clear and it did not fly past off-limits areas of the country, nor did it have any characteristics that would be a threat to Thailand. It was regarded as an unidentified aircraft of little significance,” the air force spokesman said.

“The retrospective check took time and the findings from the officials had to be summarised thoroughly before the air force chief could send the information to his Malaysian counterpart.

“There was no hidden agenda and [the air force] did not cooperate with Malaysia in covering up anything.”

He said Air force chief Prajin Juntong’s clarifications on the radar information issued on Tuesday were his answers to reporters’ questions and not an official media conference.

Flight 370 took off from Kuala Lumpur at 12:40am on March 8 and its transponder, which allows air traffic controllers to identify and track it, ceased communicating at 1:20am.

An earlier AP report quoted AM Monthol as saying that at 1.28am, the military radar "was able to detect a signal, which was not a normal signal, of a plane flying in the direction opposite from the MH370 plane", back toward Kuala Lumpur. The plane later turned right, toward Butterworth, a Malaysian city along the Strait of Malacca. The radar signal was infrequent and did not include data such as the flight number.

When asked why it took so long to release the information, he said, "Because we did not pay any attention to it. The Royal Thai Air Force only looks after any threats against our country.'' He said the plane never entered Thai airspace and that Malaysia's initial request for information in the early days of the search was not specific.

AP on Wednesday said Thailand's failure to quickly share possible information about the plane may not substantially change what Malaysian officials now know, but it raises questions about the degree to which some countries are sharing their defence data. At a minimum, safety experts said, the radar data could have saved time and effort that was initially spent searching the South China Sea, many miles from the Indian Ocean.

"It's tough to tell, but that is a material fact that I think would have mattered," said John Goglia, a former member of the US National Transportation Safety Board.

"It's just bizarre they didn't come forward before," Scott Hamilton, managing director of aviation consultancy Leeham Co, said of Thai authorities. "It may be too late to help the search ... but maybe them and the Malaysian military should do joint military exercises in incompetence."

The search area for the plane initially focused on the South China Sea. Pings that a satellite detected from the plane hours after its communications went down eventually led authorities to concentrate instead on two vast arcs -- one into Central Asia and the other into the Indian Ocean.

Source: http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/400695/air-force-defends-delayed-radar-blips-report

[Pooky 3,840]

And now they're looking closer to Australia?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/18/mh370-search-indian-ocean-weeks-australia-admits

[luckytxn 2,265]

They haven't a clue.

And now they're looking closer to Australia?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/18/mh370-search-indian-ocean-weeks-australia-admits

[luckytxn 2,265]

Yay Aussies.

KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia (AP) — Australia's prime minister said Thursday two objects possibly related to the missing Malaysia Airlines flight have been spotted on satellite imagery and an air force aircraft was diverted to the area to try to locate them.

The Orion aircraft was expected to arrive in the area Thursday afternoon, Prime Minister Tony Abott told Parliament in Canberra. Three additional aircraft are expected to follow for a more intensive search, he said.

Abbott cautioned, however, that the task of locating these objects will be extremely difficult and "it may turn out that they are not related to the search for flight MH370."

And now they're looking closer to Australia?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/18/mh370-search-indian-ocean-weeks-australia-admits

[natty bumppo 297]

They haven't a clue.

or maybe they do and just aren't publicizing ...

how's your stock of tin foil doin?

[luckytxn 2,265]

Oh man. I read that too. smh

or maybe they do and just aren't publicizing ...

how's your stock of tin foil doin?

[natty bumppo 297]

Oh man. I read that too. smh

so guess your house needs tin foil for more than cooking ...

darn .. this is seriously cutting into the cooking tools ... gotta go to HEB and stock up

[Merrytooth 5,748]

Australia reports possible debris from Malaysian plane in Indian Ocean

(Reuters) - Search aircraft are investigating two objects spotted by satellite floating in the southern Indian Ocean off Australia that could be debris from a Malaysian jetliner missing for 12 days with 239 people on board.

Australian officials said the objects, the largest of which measured up to 24 meters (78 ft), were around 2,500 km (1,500 miles) southwest of Perth, and appeared to be awash over water several thousand meters deep.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/20/us-malaysiaairlines-flight-idUSBREA2701720140320

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

1. The Malaysian government failed to contact the aircraft to find out why it switched OFF it's transponder.

2. The Malaysian government failed to seek out why the aircraft diverted it's planned course, and did nothing to follow up.

3. The Malaysian government failed to contact Beijing to inform them of details about what they saw and what they did.

4. After it became aparant the aircraft was missing, the Malaysian government stonewalled the international community and failed to divulge important information.

5. The Malaysian government failed to search the homes of the pilots until receiving an outcry from the international community.

The Malaysian government had nothing to do with, and probably no knowledge of 1, 2, 3 until a good while after the airplane was determined to be MIA. That would be their ATC.

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

And it didn't disappear from radar. After the transponder was turned off, it was spotted on radar at 45,000 feet, above the published service ceiling for a 777-200. It also showed the plane down around 23,000 feet at some point.

But the data transmitted by the plane back to home on the rapid descent... pretty much not possible. 40,000 foot descent in a minute? That would be like the airplane pointing it's nose straight down and flying 454 mph. Ain't gonna happen. Wouldn't be able to pull out of that dive without ripping something off in only 5,000 feet (assuming it dove from 45k). Something has to be wrong with that data, for sure.

Actually, I think this guy offers the best conclusion of what happened thus far.... http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03/mh370-electrical-fire/%C2'>

It accounts for everything minus the two stolen passports, which don't necessarily indicate a terrorist plot, though they do introduce the possibility of foul play.

[Crashed~N2~Me 970]

What was on that plane besides people? Any1? Any1?

[JohnR! 5,495]

What was on that plane besides people? Any1? Any1?

Obama's alleged illegal aunt and brother. The kenyan [sic] is tying up loose ends...

No kidding, somehow Obama will be blamed for the MH370 kerfuffle...

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Obama's alleged illegal aunt and brother. The kenyan [sic] is tying up loose ends...

No kidding, somehow Obama will be blamed for the MH370 kerfuffle...

You're late to the party, there's a thread on it already.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/486333-fox-has-begun-blaming-president-obama-for-missing-malaysian-airplane-mystery/