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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Thailand
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Thanks for the input everyone. I'm a little weary at the moment because it's the consulate in Cambodia which is a country that is deemed a high risk for fraud. I went to a lawyer's office that specializes in Cambodian K-1 and saw the approval rate going from 96% in 2007 (1340 processed cases) to 63% in 2013 (361 processed cases).

My evidence that I have so far are:

  • Daily text messages - we usually talk for an hour from 9am to 10am
  • Skype - we skype every Saturday and Sunday for an hour a day

I plan on sending her a post card and a stuff animal to her. Hopefully these will help for evidence.

And finally, I plan on having a engagment ceremony with lots pictures along with pictures of us being doing other activities together when I visit her for 2 weeks in May.

I can't say i'm very confident due to the plummeting approval rate and thinking about steps to take if it does get denied. dry.png

STOP, STOP STOP. The Engagement ceremony. You will put yourself under additional scrutiny if you come in with photos of a ceremony. Marriage ceremonies look just like the engagement. Get advise from your portal, but my advise. Absolutely do not have a engagement ceremony.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Portugal
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I agree that this might be a tough one to get by regarding your particular embassy. Some countries are much more relaxed about this - others, not so much. Why the rush in getting the visa right after your visit? That would be a red flag, in my opinion.

The K1 journey:                                                                                                                             The AOS journey:

11/09/2013 - I-129F Packet mailed to Dallas Lockbox                                                                                         06/22/2015 - AOS packet mailed to Chicago Lockbox

02/14/2014 - Case shipped to Embassy, where it waited for over a year at my request                                 11/07/2015 - AOS approved (EAD and AP had already been approved) - there was no interview

05/21/2015 - Interview - Approved

06/19/2015 - Wedding (L) 

                                                                                                                                                                      

The ROC journey:                                                                                                                         

10/12/2017 - ROC packet mailed to VSC

01/21/2019 - ROC Approved - there was no interview

 

The N-400 journey:

02/16/2020 - N-400 application filed online

02/21/2020 - Paper NOA received in the mail

03/13/2020 - Biometrics

02/02/2021 - Interview & test - Approved

02/05/2021 - Oath Ceremony

 

 

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Thailand
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Does anyone know if a short relationship duration will have a negative impact for applying for K1? I'm began talk to my fiance beganing Feb 1st through Skype (every weekend) and text messages (daily) and plan on going to Cambodia for 2 weeks (in May) to see her and have a engagement ceremony. I plan on filing shortly thereafter in June for the K1 visa. Would the span of 4 months (Feb, Mar, Apr, May) be suffiient to obstain a visa? Is a longer better and is there a "sweet spot"?

I appreciate any help! Thanks!

There is no sweet spot. You need to convince the consulate you have a real and honest relationship. Can you meet that burden having met one time and known each other only 4 months?

Unrelated to your question, but the K-1 should not be viewed as a test drive. The process is more difficult and more expensive then you can possibly imagine. You both need to be really sure before you start the process. Spend some time here on VJ and you'll see many relationships that ended half way though the process or shortly after arrival in the US.

If you are really sure and want the most bullet proof path to the US. Marry her when you visit and file for the CR-1 spouse visa.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Cambodia
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STOP, STOP STOP. The Engagement ceremony. You will put yourself under additional scrutiny if you come in with photos of a ceremony. Marriage ceremonies look just like the engagement. Get advise from your portal, but my advise. Absolutely do not have a engagement ceremony.

This is contrary to what i've been told. What's your reasoning? Engagement ceremonies are customary in Cambodia, so I doubt it will have a negative conotation. In fact, probably the opposite if I provide evidence without a engagement ceremony pictures.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Thailand
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This is contrary to what i've been told. What's your reasoning? Engagement ceremonies are customary in Cambodia, so I doubt it will have a negative conotation. In fact, probably the opposite if I provide evidence without a engagement ceremony pictures.

Your call, You seem to have experience with the K-1 process. But do have a discussion on your portal.

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This is contrary to what I've been told. What's your reasoning? Engagement ceremonies are customary in Cambodia, so I doubt it will have a negative connotation. In fact, probably the opposite if I provide evidence without a engagement ceremony pictures.

I don't have personal experience with this, but I've already seen plenty of couples on here who have had such ceremonies, then are deemed "too married" by their local embassy, and "not married enough" by the US gov't, so they then have to get married (legally) in the fiance's home country and begin the visa process again as a married couple. The burden would be on YOU, the couple, to prove that the ceremony you have pictures of isn't considered a marriage in that country. In some countries, it isn't required to have legal documentation like it is here to be "married."

K1 Visa timeline:

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

02/01/2014 - mailed our petition

07/25/2014 - Johan arrives in Los Angeles! 

*See updated timeline for specific dates.*

AOS timeline:~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

08/02/2014 - AOS, EAD, AP applications mailed. 

11/17/2014 - K2 gets an interview waiver letter in the mail (dated November 12th) (K1 has never gotten this letter)

08/24/2015 - Green cards are FINALLY in hand after nearly 13 months of waiting. 

ROC timeline: ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

05/01/2017 - ROC application sent 

05/02/2017 - CSC receives our package

05/03/2017 - Official NOA1 date

05/10/2017 - MO cashed at our bank

05/12/2017 - NOA 1 is in the mailbox.

05/20/2017 - Biometrics letter in hand

05/31/2017 - biometrics appt (Oxnard, CA)

06/19/2018 - ROC still pending with no news but that wonky glitch back in February, so we went ahead and filed for citizenship

N-400 timeline: ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

06/19/2018 - N-400 application filed online

06/20/2018 - NOA1 received online for Naturalization application

06/25/2018 - Biometrics notification online (PDF Document)

07/12/2018 - Biometrics appt (Oxnard, CA)

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Haiti
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Wow this is very helpful as i was discourage because i met my fiance online Dec 2013 and we met in person April 2014 and filed at the end of May...and i have been digging around trying to figure out is this too soon to file so i came across this forum and it has helped me alot. My spirits are lifted once again . :dancing:

K1 Visa

Service Center : Texas Service Center

Transferred? No

Consulate : Haiti

I-129F Sent : 05-27-2014

I-129F received : 05-30-2014

I-129F NOA1 : 06-02-2014

Alien Registration number changed : 06-09-2014

RFE: 10-28-2014

Received RFE hard copy: 11-4-14

Reason for RFE: I forgot to answer 2 questions

Mailed RFE: 11-5-14

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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: China
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Wow this is very helpful as i was discourage because i met my fiance online Dec 2013 and we met in person April 2014 and filed at the end of May...and i have been digging around trying to figure out is this too soon to file so i came across this forum and it has helped me alot. My spirits are lifted once again . :dancing:

We met Oct 4, 2013 on online.

I visited her for 2 weeks over Thanksgiving break.

And in just 10 weeks, I filed for I-129F on Dec 16.

Of course, we communicated one or more times every single day

since we've met until now, which has been about 9.5 months.

Your meeting duration should be just fine.

10-04-2013 We met online
11-21-2013 We met in person in Shanghai for 2 weeks

12-13-2013 I-129F packet sent via express

12-19-2013 USCIS NOA #1 (text and email) received

12-24-2013 USCIS assigns Alien Registration Number
12-31-2013 USCIS NOA #1 hard copy received
06-02-2014 USCIS web site shows NOA #2 approval
06-06-2014 USCIS web site shows case sent to NVC

06-xx-2014 Fiancee acquired birth, marriage, and police certificates from local police station (wrong)

06-16-2014 NVC creates case with GUZ### number

06-19-2014 NVC sends case sent to Guangzhou, China
06-24-2014 Received packet 3 express mail from embassy
06-25-2014 Completed DS-160 and paid K1 visa fee

06-26-2014 Mailed packet 3 response back to Embassy

06-26-2014 Requested police certificate from Russian embassy

07-08-2014 Received packet 4 email from Embassy

07-17-2014 Picked up Russian police certificate

07-25-2014 Fiancee medical exam (received MMR & Varicella, but they missed required TD shot)

07-31-2014 Picked up medical exam reports

08-01-2014 Request (correct) birth, marriage, and police certificates from Notarial Service (GongZhengChu)

08-06-2014 Picked up birth, marriage, and police certificates from Notarial Service

08-14-2014 Passed Interview Guangzhou embassy

09-01-2014 Received passport, visa, & sealed envelope

09-13-2014 POE

09-17-2014 Went to CBP office to get (US entry) I-94 updated correctly

09-18-2014 Applied for Social Security Card
09-19-2014 Applied for Marriage License (via online)
09-25-2014 Received Social Security Card
09-30-2014 Picked up Marriage License
10-09-2014 Marriage by Justice of Peace
10-09-2014 Got Certified Marriage Certificate Copies
10-17-2014 Received a letter from SS office that they need the marriage license
10-09-2014 Applied to change the social security card name
10-24-2014 Went back to SS office to provide the marriage certificate documents again!!!
12-09-2014 Submitted AOS, EAD, and AP
12-16-2014 Received 16 emails and 16 text NOA messages
01-05-2015 Received Biometrics appointment letter for (01-12-2015)
01-12-2015 Had Biometrics (fingerprint & picture) - Required Marriage Certificate!!!
02-17-2015 EAD and AP is approved
02-23-2015 Received AP is approval letter
02-25-2015 Received EAD/AP combo card (expires 02/16/2016)
02-27-2015 Applied for SS card name change (they took her SS card)
02-27-2015 Driver's learner permit test was denied since the SS card was given to SS office for name change
03-17-2015 Received SS card with married name
03-17-2015 Started to change all her accounts to married name
03-23-2015 Received potential interview waiver letter
03-27-2015 DMV rejects learner's permit due to "legal status=pending" and vision test failure
04-05-2015 Vision test for learner's permit
04-06-2015 DPS sent us letter that DHS cleared my wife's status to acquire driver's license.
04-10-2015 Passed Driver Learner's Permit
04-22-2015 Received Driver Learner's Permit ID card (expires 02/16/2016)
08-27-2015 Green Card approved
08-31-2015 Received Green Card "Welcome Notice Was Mailed" letter
09-05-2015 Received Green card
10-26-2015 Passed Driver's License Road Test (on 3rd attempt)
11-03-2015 Received Driver's License (expires 02/16/2022)
11-06-2015 Applied to remove conditional work remark on SS card
11-23-2015 Received updated Social Security Card.
- - - - - - - - - - Pending Future Processing - - - - - - - - - -
05-27-2017 File 10 Year Green Card
08-27-2017 2 Year Green Card Expires
05-27-2018 File USC

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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Philippines
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Get to know each other more than file. We recommend withdrawing your petition so you can gather more evidence of a genuine relationship

April 15, 2014 : I-129F Package Sent

April 19, 2014 : I-129F Package Delivery Confirmation via USPS

April 24, 2014 - NOA1 received via email/text

April 25, 2014 - Alien Registration Number changed

April 28, 2014 - NOA1 received in mail.

May 23, 2014 - RFE received in mail.

June 5, 2014 - Response to RFE Sent

June 11, 2014 - NOA2 Approval via website!!!

June 14, 2014 - NOA2 received in mail.

June 24, 2014 - NVC Case # via phone!

June 25, 2014 - NVC forwarded case to Embassy

June 26, 2014 - Embassy received case.

June 26, 2014 - NVC letter in mail.

August 4-5, 2014 - Medical

August 6, 2014 - CFO Seminar

August 13, 2014 - VIsa Interview (Expedited)

August 19, 2014 - VISA ready for pick up!

August 20, 2014 - Packet 3 Arrived

August 26, 2014 - POE!

August 26, 2014 - Notice to schedule an Interview...

October 23, 2014 - AOS/EAD Package Sent

October 30, 2014 - NOA1 via website

November 1, 2014 - NOA1 received in mail

November 6, 2014 - Biometrics Appointment Scheduled in mail

November 19, 2014 - Biometrics Appointment

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Get to know each other more than file. We recommend withdrawing your petition so you can gather more evidence of a genuine relationship

"We" who? Their relationship timeline can be just fine. I met my fiancé online early October, met in person end of December, filed February 1st, and it was approved no problem. He moves here next Friday. No need for them to withdrawal their petition if it was indeed filed in June.

K1 Visa timeline:

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

02/01/2014 - mailed our petition

07/25/2014 - Johan arrives in Los Angeles! 

*See updated timeline for specific dates.*

AOS timeline:~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

08/02/2014 - AOS, EAD, AP applications mailed. 

11/17/2014 - K2 gets an interview waiver letter in the mail (dated November 12th) (K1 has never gotten this letter)

08/24/2015 - Green cards are FINALLY in hand after nearly 13 months of waiting. 

ROC timeline: ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

05/01/2017 - ROC application sent 

05/02/2017 - CSC receives our package

05/03/2017 - Official NOA1 date

05/10/2017 - MO cashed at our bank

05/12/2017 - NOA 1 is in the mailbox.

05/20/2017 - Biometrics letter in hand

05/31/2017 - biometrics appt (Oxnard, CA)

06/19/2018 - ROC still pending with no news but that wonky glitch back in February, so we went ahead and filed for citizenship

N-400 timeline: ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

06/19/2018 - N-400 application filed online

06/20/2018 - NOA1 received online for Naturalization application

06/25/2018 - Biometrics notification online (PDF Document)

07/12/2018 - Biometrics appt (Oxnard, CA)

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Filed: F-2A Visa Country: India
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USCIS is a softie when it comes to approving petitions, they approve more than 90% of the petitions they receive. So, you might get through or get RFE, but eventually most likely they will aprrove. It is advisable to have few more personal visits and strengthen your bond before your fiancé reaches her consular interview. They do look for a bonafide relationship and you need to have lots of evidence, particularly when the relationship is so short.

I am not judging you here, but how did you decide to propose to a person you have only communicated trough Skype?

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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: China
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Get to know each other more than file. We recommend withdrawing your petition so you can gather more evidence of a genuine relationship

I think most posts disagree with you, so where is this "We" coming from? LOL

10-04-2013 We met online
11-21-2013 We met in person in Shanghai for 2 weeks

12-13-2013 I-129F packet sent via express

12-19-2013 USCIS NOA #1 (text and email) received

12-24-2013 USCIS assigns Alien Registration Number
12-31-2013 USCIS NOA #1 hard copy received
06-02-2014 USCIS web site shows NOA #2 approval
06-06-2014 USCIS web site shows case sent to NVC

06-xx-2014 Fiancee acquired birth, marriage, and police certificates from local police station (wrong)

06-16-2014 NVC creates case with GUZ### number

06-19-2014 NVC sends case sent to Guangzhou, China
06-24-2014 Received packet 3 express mail from embassy
06-25-2014 Completed DS-160 and paid K1 visa fee

06-26-2014 Mailed packet 3 response back to Embassy

06-26-2014 Requested police certificate from Russian embassy

07-08-2014 Received packet 4 email from Embassy

07-17-2014 Picked up Russian police certificate

07-25-2014 Fiancee medical exam (received MMR & Varicella, but they missed required TD shot)

07-31-2014 Picked up medical exam reports

08-01-2014 Request (correct) birth, marriage, and police certificates from Notarial Service (GongZhengChu)

08-06-2014 Picked up birth, marriage, and police certificates from Notarial Service

08-14-2014 Passed Interview Guangzhou embassy

09-01-2014 Received passport, visa, & sealed envelope

09-13-2014 POE

09-17-2014 Went to CBP office to get (US entry) I-94 updated correctly

09-18-2014 Applied for Social Security Card
09-19-2014 Applied for Marriage License (via online)
09-25-2014 Received Social Security Card
09-30-2014 Picked up Marriage License
10-09-2014 Marriage by Justice of Peace
10-09-2014 Got Certified Marriage Certificate Copies
10-17-2014 Received a letter from SS office that they need the marriage license
10-09-2014 Applied to change the social security card name
10-24-2014 Went back to SS office to provide the marriage certificate documents again!!!
12-09-2014 Submitted AOS, EAD, and AP
12-16-2014 Received 16 emails and 16 text NOA messages
01-05-2015 Received Biometrics appointment letter for (01-12-2015)
01-12-2015 Had Biometrics (fingerprint & picture) - Required Marriage Certificate!!!
02-17-2015 EAD and AP is approved
02-23-2015 Received AP is approval letter
02-25-2015 Received EAD/AP combo card (expires 02/16/2016)
02-27-2015 Applied for SS card name change (they took her SS card)
02-27-2015 Driver's learner permit test was denied since the SS card was given to SS office for name change
03-17-2015 Received SS card with married name
03-17-2015 Started to change all her accounts to married name
03-23-2015 Received potential interview waiver letter
03-27-2015 DMV rejects learner's permit due to "legal status=pending" and vision test failure
04-05-2015 Vision test for learner's permit
04-06-2015 DPS sent us letter that DHS cleared my wife's status to acquire driver's license.
04-10-2015 Passed Driver Learner's Permit
04-22-2015 Received Driver Learner's Permit ID card (expires 02/16/2016)
08-27-2015 Green Card approved
08-31-2015 Received Green Card "Welcome Notice Was Mailed" letter
09-05-2015 Received Green card
10-26-2015 Passed Driver's License Road Test (on 3rd attempt)
11-03-2015 Received Driver's License (expires 02/16/2022)
11-06-2015 Applied to remove conditional work remark on SS card
11-23-2015 Received updated Social Security Card.
- - - - - - - - - - Pending Future Processing - - - - - - - - - -
05-27-2017 File 10 Year Green Card
08-27-2017 2 Year Green Card Expires
05-27-2018 File USC

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