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Filed: Country: Monaco
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I have two questions I would like to pose and hoping someone will have some knowledge to answer them, please.

1. For the K-1 visa spouse after getting her/his unconditional greencard approved, does he/she have to be married to the same, original spouse to apply for citizenship, or if he/she gets a divorced and remarries after the unconditional greencard is issued is he/she still eligible for citizenship, or does the marriage have to be with the same person from the start of the process??

2. If the American spouse should pass away (die)anytime during the process of the conditional or unconditional greencard process can the immigrant spouse still continue on to get the greencard and the citizenship, or will he/she have to go back to their home country??

Hope I am not making this confusing, but would like to know for future reference.

Thank you

Ron

The short answer is that as long as the marriage takes place in good faith, none of the scenarios above would prevent the LPR from staying in the US, or obtaining citizenship, provided the legal requirements for each case are met.

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My wife died suddenly after only 8 months of marriage. I stayed here. We didn't have kids. I didn't stay for financial reasons (I'm not from a poor country, I'm from the UK like you) but simply because I like it here much more than I do at home. So much so that since arriving here 5 years ago I've not been back once. I don't miss the UK one iota. The US has been my home since I stepped off the plane.

My point being that it's quite wrong to assume everyone has financial or (otherwise sinister) motives for remaining stateside after being bereaved. Irrespective of the economic situation in their homeland. Case in point right here.

I'm so sorry for your loss.

ROC from CR-1 visa (Green Card expiration date was Nov 24th 2016)

 

Link to the evidence I submitted. Be sure to send evidence spanning your entire marriage (especially for K-1) or as far back as you can. Just one or two bank statements will not cut it. I primarily focused on the two years of living here since I came in on a CR-1. If you don't have the fundamentals (i.e. joint accounts/policies), you can explain why in the covering letter. E.g. "While we do not have joint utilities, we both contribute to them from our joint bank account".

 

September 26th 2016: I-751 package sent to CSC

September 28th 2016: Package delivered
September 30th 2016: Check cashed
October 3rd 2016: NOA1 received with receipt date of 09/28/16
November 3rd 2016: Biometrics received with appointment date of 11/14/16.
November 14th 2016: Attended biometrics appointment
October 30th 2017: Infopass appointment to get I-551 stamp
February 26th 2018: I-751 case number (aka the NOA1 receipt number) becomes trackable
March 14th 2018: Submitted service request due to being outside of processing time.

March 15th 2018: ROC approved. 535 days (1 year, 5 months and 17 days)

March 29th 2018: Card being produced

April 4th 2018: Card mailed out

April 6th 2018: Card in hand. Has incorrect "resident since" date. Submitted service request on I-751 case (typographical error on permanent resident card) and an I-90 online.

April 2018 - August 7th 2018: Tons of service requests, emails and now senator involvement to get my corrected green card back because what the heck, USCIS. Also some time in May I sent a letter to Potomac telling them I want to withdraw my I-90 since CSC were handling it.

August 8th 2018: Card in production thanks to the direct involvement of Senator Sherrod Brown's team

August 13th 2018: Card mailed

August 15th 2018: Card in hand with correct date. :joy:

October 31st 2018: Potomac sends out a notice stating they have closed out my I-90 per my request. Yay for no duplicate card drama.

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The OP has asked a genuine honest question that many of us don't like think about (or don't want to think about) because the implications are so heartbreaking if it were to happen.

I had my AOS interview on Tuesday (successful), as we walked out my immigration Attorney said that he needed a quick prep-meeting before we go home to discuss the implications if 1. Me and my husband were to divorce and 2. If my husband was to die between now and the removal of conditions in 2 years time.

It was a tough conversation to have 2 minutes after getting my green card approved... but a necessary one. OP is right to find out what the legal implications are if this was to happen.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: England
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I'm so sorry for your loss.

Thank you. It was over four years ago now. Life goes on and I've since re-married, ironically to an English gal who I'm in the process of bringing over here right now. I know, right???

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CIS Office : Saint Louis MO

Date Filed : 2014-06-11

NOA Date : 2014-06-16

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The OP has asked a genuine honest question that many of us don't like think about (or don't want to think about) because the implications are so heartbreaking if it were to happen.

I had my AOS interview on Tuesday (successful), as we walked out my immigration Attorney said that he needed a quick prep-meeting before we go home to discuss the implications if 1. Me and my husband were to divorce and 2. If my husband was to die between now and the removal of conditions in 2 years time.

It was a tough conversation to have 2 minutes after getting my green card approved... but a necessary one. OP is right to find out what the legal implications are if this was to happen.

Yep, morbid but necessary. Ironically, the wife and I had the exact same conversation about 6 weeks before she died. And I'm so very glad we did.

Naturalization Timeline:

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Service Center : Phoenix AZ Lockbox

CIS Office : Saint Louis MO

Date Filed : 2014-06-11

NOA Date : 2014-06-16

Bio. Appt. :

Interview Date :

Approved :

Oath Ceremony :

Comments :

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Yep, morbid but necessary. Ironically, the wife and I had the exact same conversation about 6 weeks before she died. And I'm so very glad we did.

Damian I am so sorry for your loss. I truly cant imagine what you must have gone through.

I think that's why some VJ members seemed to have "jumped" on OP when this question was posed... we are all so busy focusing on building a future with our spouses we don't think of the possibility of divorce or death. But OP was looking at the realism of what the future can hold and the question was a VERY valid one.

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Your wife can adjust status on her own, and remove conditions on her own, if you were to die. Adjusting status after your death, would mean she'd get a 10 year green card and not the two year conditional green card. She could not adjust status on her own in the event of a divorce, unless she went with a VAWA filing. A divorce or death would restart the three year count on getting citizenship, so unless it happened real fast after the green card arrival, and she remarried fast, she'd likely be waiting for 5 years after the green card to apply for citizenship.

K1 from the Philippines
Arrival : 2011-09-08
Married : 2011-10-15
AOS
Date Card Received : 2012-07-13
EAD
Date Card Received : 2012-02-04

Sent ROC : 4-1-2014
Noa1 : 4-2-2014
Bio Complete : 4-18-2014
Approved : 6-24-2014

N-400 sent 2-13-2016
Bio Complete 3-14-2016
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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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The proceural advice above is correct. As many of us petitioners are significantly older it is incumbent on us to prepare our spouses as much as possible for a sudden death (won't get into divorce) so they are not left adrift in a foreign country without resources or someone to turn to with all the paperwork.

Attached to my will I have passed on a letter to my executors with all the accounts and password as well as how to stop my pension and social security, etc. I have also picked up a modest life insuance policy to forestall any panicky decisions and a rush to the airport. I have tried to explain her right to a survivor benefit based on my social security earnings and the steps to take to claim it when she is back home looking afer (hopefully) her grandchildren. I have prepared two ROC petitions - one with me alive and one with my date of death so she has a good start towards remaining here which I would hope she would consider.

Hope some of this helps

That is very loving that you have set up everything to make sure your wife is taken care of. It is not easy thinking about such things, but you have taken the time to very thoughtfully consider what she would feel is best for her and have helped provide her with all those options if you passed away.

My first spouse passed away suddenly and it was extremely stressful trying to navigate everything. However when my mother passed away after a long illness, everything had been taken care of. Even though it was still very difficult, it was much easier to focus on properly grieving when everything else was taken care of.

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IR-1/CR-1 Visa : National Benefits Center NVC Received: 2014-01-08
Consulate : Montreal, Canada NVC Case Number: 2014-02-07
Marriage : 2013-02-22 Paid I-864 Bill: 2014-02-13
I-130 Sent : 2013-03-16 Sent I-864 Docs: 2014-02-14
I-130 NOA1 : 2013-03-20 Paid IV Bill: 2014-03-03
Trans. to NSC : 2013-11-05 Sent IV Docs: 2014-03-04
I-130 NOA2: 2013-12-16 Submitted DS-260: 2014-03-06

Case Complete 2014-03-21

Interview & APPROVED 2014-05-08

POE 2014-06-21

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However when my mother passed away after a long illness, everything had been taken care of. Even though it was still very difficult, it was much easier to focus on properly grieving when everything else was taken care of.

How true - life (and death) is a lot easier if we face up to it's challenges. I remember chatting to a friend's father in hospital who was dying from cancer and knew it.

He had even arranged a proper service on one of his cars as it was a "bit special" and he didn't want his wife to have to sort it out once he'd gone. A very practical and likeable chap who had everything sorted. It was the first time I'd had such a talk with someone. Not something I'll forget...

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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One post removed and that participant thread-banned for disregarding previous direction. Another post edited with relevant part returned below:

people were just pointing out what they interpreted from the thread...

Stay on topic, please. Most participants have done so.

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06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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