I-864 and I-864A

[AlexandCarlos19 5]

Can anyone explain if my family could be my husbands Sponsor I am a full time student and haven't worked at all here is the issue though we are a very big family and make way below the poverty range if we were to add my husband it would be 8 people and my father made less than 20,000 this passed year? but some of my brothers have SSI and don't depend on my parents does this affect anything?

Can you combine My parents income with another sponsor?

Should i just ask a single person to joint sponsor?

really appreciate any help?

[KayDeeCee 4,893]

You need a joint sponsor that meets the income requirement for their household size plus the intending immigrant. If you have a joint sponsor that has a qualifying household member that can fill out an I-864A and combine their incomes to meet the requirement, then that works too. Household size is not who lives with who.

How to count household size >

Your household size includes yourself and the following individuals, no matter where they live: any spouse, any dependent children under the age of 21, any other dependents listed on your most recent Federal income tax return, all persons being sponsored in this affidavit of support, and any immigrants previously sponsored with a Form I-864 or Form I-864 EZ

Your father could use his children as qualifying household members that fill out I-864A forms and combine their incomes with his. However, they will all be counted in the household size that way.

[AlexandCarlos19 5]

I read somewhere i don't recall you can not combine but can you have more than one joint sponsor is there a limit on how many joint sponsors you can have ?

My parents want to sponsor however we they make below poverty guide lines in total including my husband we are 7 people that would reside in our house?

my parents and to younger siblings myself and my child and of course my husband

My parents only received refund for 4 people however they always list all of us even there kids over 21 do we exclude all those over 21 i am 21 as well does that mater?

i know it all crazy please help(:

My parent once filed for one of my siblings a long while back they had a co sponsor but they combined is that possible anymore?

Edited March 6, 2014 by AlexandCarlos19

[ssw 2]

I read somewhere i don't recall you can not combine but can you have more than one joint sponsor is there a limit on how many joint sponsors you can have ?

My parents want to sponsor however we they make below poverty guide lines in total including my husband we are 7 people that would reside in our house?

my parents and to younger siblings myself and my child and of course my husband

My parents only received refund for 4 people however they always list all of us even there kids over 21 do we exclude all those over 21 i am 21 as well does that mater?

i know it all crazy please help(:

My parent once filed for one of my siblings a long while back they had a co sponsor but they combined is that possible anymore?

For your first question, Yes. You can have more than one joint sponsor. However each sponsor must meet the 125% of the U.S. poverty level for their household size. They can not combine their income to meet the 125%. So if you find someone can do that by themselves, don't bother using your parents income. From what I gather, your parents income may not be over 125% since they claim so many people.

For your parents I-864. If they file joint tax, then the main sponsor lets say your father for example will fill out I-864. Your mother will fill out I-864a. For your siblings who have income and also live in the same house, you father will put them on "part 5, number 7" of I-864. This will add their incomes but also will increase the household size. In this case, each one of them listed will have to fill out I-864a. Since you are using their income. If you think they don't make enough money to help, then your father don't need to include them in the household size since your parents never claim them as dependents on the tax. If your parents claimed any people on the tax, your father will have to list them on the household size. No matter where these people lived, related or not related to you, under 21 or over 21.

I may misunderstand some of your info. If I got some info wrong let me know. Also don't forget you as petitioner have to fill out I-864 no matter you have income or not.

[KayDeeCee 4,893]

If they are included in the father's tax return as a dependent or spouse, then they are counted in the household size. If they are not claimed as a dependent by the father, then they are not in his household size, It does not matter if you all live in the same house, as I explained above. Any spouse, minor children under 18 or children over 18 that he still claims as a dependent on his taxes are counted in his household size. There is no particular age where one is automatically not counted anymore. It depends on whether or not they are still being supported by the parent and claimed as a dependent. I do not understand what you mean about getting a refund for 4 people but listing them all. If he listed them as his dependents on his most recent taxes, then they are counted in his household size whether or not they fill out an I-864A to add in their incomes.

You can only have one joint sponsor. I told you above how to combine incomes using the I-864A. So, you live with your father and your brothers, correct? You fill out your own I-864 for your husband Your father fills out his own separate I-864 as the joint sponsor. If your mother and brothers have income, they can fill out I-864A forms to go along with the father's I-864. All their incomes would be combined together. Anyone that fills out an I-864A would be included in the father's household size in Part 5 of his I-864, even if he did not claim them as a dependent on his taxes. The combined income amount must meet the requirement for however many end up being included in his household count.

A joint sponsor does not have to be family or living in the same house. So, if you know someone else that qualifies on their own for their household size plus your husband, then they might be a better a choice.

As to the above about having more than one joint sponsor, no, you cannot. It is pointless to send in more than one joint sponsor's documentation, since only one can actually be used. You could use 2 joint sponsors if you are sponsoring more than one person at the same time. One joint sponsor could sponsor one or more, and then a second joint sponsor could sponsor the rest. Only one joint sponsor when sponsoring only one person.

Edited March 6, 2014 by Jay-Kay

[ssw 2]

Sorry I didn't notice OP is petitioning only one person. In that case you can only have one sponsor other than you. You can have two if you petitioning more than one person, like Jay-Kay stated.

Edited March 6, 2014 by ssw

[AlexandCarlos19 5]

Thank you the info is really an eye opener my parents will not file for my husband i will find a joint sponsor which is easier said than done i know I'm not asking for money but to find someone who is willing to help is hard. It will be I-864 for myself and an attached letter with why i have no income and an I-864A of our joint sponsor?

could you only send for example one year of taxes instead of 3 or is it a mandatory requirement?

Pay stubs for the year?

Is the letter of employment also mandatory?

I'm guessing sending in W2's a good idea or is it better to get the IRS transcripts directly?

I really don't want my husband to be at the interview and get denied or prolong because of missing or insufficient documents

HELP

[KayDeeCee 4,893]

No. When you find a joint sponsor that meets the requirement for their household size plus your husband, then you will fill out an I-864 and your joint sponsor will fill out their own separate I-864. There would be no I-864A in that case, unless your joint sponsor is married and their spouse fills out an I-864A as their household member to combine their incomes together on your joint sponsor's I-864. I really think you need to read carefully through the I-864 form instructions to understand better what the difference is between a joint sponsor and a qualifying household member.

Yes, for your I-864, you need to provide a statement as to why you were not legally required to file taxes. If that reason is that you are student and unemployed, then say that.

You need the Total Income amount from the last 3 years of taxes to list on the form, but you only need to send in the most recent year with the I-864. IRS tax transcripts are easier and no need to include the W-2 with those. They contain all the information and are used in place of a complete copy of a tax return. http://www.irs.gov/Individuals/Get-Transcript

They also need to list their current annual income and provide a letter from employer and/or most recent pay stub(s) to prove that income amount.

[AlexandCarlos19 5]

Thank you very much I was trying to wrap my head around all the little details I lost my self. I understand more than before and basically ruled out my parents and now I will have to look for a joint sponsor and well I will go to the notary that filed my I-130 for my husband and have them tell me in detail and slow things down for me. Don't want to get taken advantage of (: Thanks I like to be informed (: