Putin strong? He cannot even control his own propaganda machine

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Putin gets his balls kicked by RT anchor Abby Martin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8-XfAQisHA

[Dakine10 5,452]

RT's statement to HuffPost UK:

"Contrary to the popular opinion, RT doesn’t beat its journalists into submission, and they are free to express their own opinions, not just in private but on the air. This is the case with Abby’s commentary on the Ukraine.

"We respect her views, and the views of all our journalists, presenters and program hosts, and there will be absolutely no reprimands made against Ms. Martin.

"In her comment Ms. Martin also noted that she does not possess a deep knowledge of reality of the situation in Crimea. As such we’ll be sending her to Crimea to give her an opportunity to make up her own mind from the epicentre of the story."

http://mashable.com/2014/03/04/abby-martin-speaks-out/

[Crashed~N2~Me 970]

Her statement = "I admittedly don't know as much as I should about Ukraine's history or cultural dynamics of the region, but what I do know, is that military intervention is NEVER the answer"....=

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

RT is not openly admitting to being Putin's propaganda organ? I am shocked!

[LibCampFireClub 635]

There was nothing in the video posted that provided fact-checking evidence to counter Putin's propaganda machine. Just an impassioned opinion about it.

Propaganda isn't as easy as it used to be in this day and age of instant international communication. Obama is learning that, and man it's pissing him off.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

RT is the propaganda organ of the Kremlin. It's no secret, really. You might want to get informed. But if you did, you probably wouldn't understand the world anymore.

[Dakine10 5,452]

RT is the propaganda organ of the Kremlin. It's no secret, really. You might want to get informed. But if you did, you probably wouldn't understand the world anymore.

Better hope this one is propaganda.

http://www.infowars.com/leaked-phone-call-kiev-snipers-hired-by-us-backed-opposition/

Leaked Phone Call: Kiev Snipers Hired by US-Backed Opposition

False flag killings used to delegitimize Yanukovich government

Paul Joseph Watson

Infowars.com

March 5, 2014

Details of a leaked phone call between EU foreign affairs chief Catherine Ashton and Estonian foreign affairs minister Urmas Paet suggest that the US-backed opposition was responsible for hiring snipers who gunned down protesters in Kiev and not the deposed government of Viktor Yanukovich, as the media widely claimed.

During the phone call, Paet tells Ashton that evidence presented to him by a doctor who treated victims of the sniper attacks clearly indicates both police and protesters were being shot at by the same people.

“There is now stronger and stronger understanding that behind the snipers, it was not Yanukovich, but it was somebody from the new coalition,” said Paet during the phone call, which was hacked by the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU).

“And second, what was quite disturbing, this same Olga [bogomolets] told as well that all the evidence shows that the people who were killed by snipers from both sides, among policemen and then people from the streets, that they were the same snipers killing people from both sides,” the Estonian FM added.

The true narrative therefore suggests that forces within the opposition hired the snipers in order to kill protesters and then blame the deaths on Yanukovich’s administration, thereby delegitimizing his bid to hold onto power. This is a classic example of the kind “false flag” attack that NATO, which has vehemently sided with the opposition, perfected in Europe throughout the 60′s, 70′s and 80′s under Operation Gladio.

“I think we do want to investigate. I mean, I didn’t pick that up, that’s interesting. Gosh,” Ashton said in response to Paet.

However, the only real “investigation” conducted into the sniper killings was overseen by a secretive British team who refused to tell the BBC who they were working for. The investigators suggested that they had already concluded the Yanukovich government was responsible for the “bloodbath” before any formal results were even published.

Paet indicated that the newly installed government had since launched a cover-up of the sniper attacks, remarking, “They don’t want to investigate what exactly happened.”

The phone call was conducted after Paet visited Kiev on February 25 at the height of the clashes between police and protesters.

Earlier in February, another hacked phone call was leaked in which US Assistant Secretary of State for Europe Victoria Nuland was caught red handed plotting with top diplomat Geoffrey Pyatt to pick Ukraine’s future puppet leaders. Nuland specifically approved Arseniy Yatsenyuk, who later became Prime Minister after the coup.

Suspicion as to who was really behind the sniper attacks should be focused on armed right-wing extremists who are now patrolling Kiev after the overthrow of Yanukovich. As we previously highlighted, after both Nuland and John McCain met with the leader of the neo-nazi affiliated Svoboda Party, the organization was handed three top positions within the newly formed Ukrainian government despite its clear links to fascism and anti-Semitism.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Better hope this one is propaganda.

http://www.infowars.com/leaked-phone-call-kiev-snipers-hired-by-us-backed-opposition/

Alex Jones. Infowars.

[Dakine10 5,452]

Alex Jones. Infowars.

The leaked conversation is everywhere and has been confirmed by the Estonian foreign minister personally. You could google it. I know it's easier to post emoticons.

I know you've got it boiled down to Russia bad, west good. More and more information coming out shows the west backed an opposition filled with neo-nazi extremists. I'm surprised you are not even slightly concerned or embarrassed by that.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

This story originated from RT. Nobody aside from Alex Jones is reporting it. Must be some conspiracy, yes?

[Dakine10 5,452]

This story originated from RT. Nobody aside from Alex Jones is reporting it. Must be some conspiracy, yes?

Urmas Paet offically confirmed having the conversation. That's what the article is about. There is no proof yet, and it is still one mans opinion, so yes it would qualify as a conspiracy theory. Which is why I said we better hope it's just propaganda.

Ukraine government will vote next week on a bill that makes anyone having dual citizenship subject to punishment of up to 10 years in jail. If it passes, it will be the 3rd anti minority law passed by a government that was only supposed to transition to the May 26th election. Russian media is already blocked in Ukraine. Minority language laws have been abolished. Jews have been advised to get out of Kiev.

You posted a bit about Russia from a historical perspective. I'm sure you're familiar with German history from the early 20th century. Nothing looking familiar here to you at all?

[LibCampFireClub 635]

You posted a bit about Russia from a historical perspective. I'm sure you're familiar with German history from the early 20th century. Nothing looking familiar here to you at all?

What looks most familiar is the open arrogant remarks from the White House that Russia is not a threat and deserved to have the US relationship reset. So, instead of having a president who leads his country and people, we have the left wringing their hands trying to figure out why happened, what's going to happen, and how to fix it. It's time for a real leader and to send the community organizer back to his neighborhood.

Edited March 5, 2014 by ExExpat

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The leaked conversation is everywhere and has been confirmed by the Estonian foreign minister personally. You could google it. I know it's easier to post emoticons.

I know you've got it boiled down to Russia bad, west good. More and more information coming out shows the west backed an opposition filled with neo-nazi extremists. I'm surprised you are not even slightly concerned or embarrassed by that.

You mean the ones Mr. Maverick himself John McCain was palling around with?

[Dakine10 5,452]

What looks most familiar is the open arrogant remarks from the White House that Russia is not a threat and deserved to have the US relationship reset. So, instead of having a president who leads his country and people, we have the left wringing their hands trying to figure out why happened, what's going to happen, and how to fix it. It's time for a real leader and to send the community organizer back to his neighborhood.

They know what happened. They don't know how to fix it. As I said before, IMO, they were hoping the nationalists went back to Lyiv and they didn't. That's the kind of thing that can happen when you mix hope and change with no real plan on how to get there.

[Dakine10 5,452]

You mean the ones Mr. Maverick himself John McCain was palling around with?

Yes those ones, but they (Svoboda party) are probably the mildest of them.