Having two Marriage cause of denial?

[Jersey Girl 2]

Yeah but ... isn't polygamy grounds for denial?

[Shamar30 0]

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[Robor007 0]

Yeah but ... isn't polygamy grounds for denial?

I think the consensus thinking here is since the original marriage wasn't valid it wouldn't be considered polygamy. I'm still a little confused on the whole thing. As I said in previous posts, how can the Philippines marry someone and (as is assumed here) find out the marriage was invalid without notifying either of them? Or if they had no idea about the validity of the original marriage how can they marry them the following year without questioning the original marriage? It could be that this was all explained to the authorities at some point and just missing here but as it reads it's very confusing to me. I do have to wonder why the OP's husband though it would be okay to marry in the Philippines before his divorce was finalized in the US.

[Shamar30 0]

Yeah but ... isn't polygamy grounds for denial?

I think the consensus thinking here is since the original marriage wasn't valid it wouldn't be considered polygamy. I'm still a little confused on the whole thing. As I said in previous posts, how can the Philippines marry someone and (as is assumed here) find out the marriage was invalid without notifying either of them? Or if they had no idea about the validity of the original marriage how can they marry them the following year without questioning the original marriage? It could be that this was all explained to the authorities at some point and just missing here but as it reads it's very confusing to me. I do have to wonder why the OP's husband though it would be okay to marry in the Philippines before his divorce was finalized in the US.

Hello..This is what happened at the 1st marriage..We also applied to get legal capacity to the US embassy but he didnot tell the truth that he was married before.. So we got legal capacity and we got married after 10days and the 1st marraige is also registerded to NSO....We already knew that we cant apply for visa so we talked to the people who from the civil office and tell the whole thruth and we asked them for some advice what we gonna do..they told us that the 1st thing we made is authomatically void so they suggested us to remarry again..my husband visited again here 2006 and get legal capacity but this time he all ready tell the truth that he is divorced he also show his divorced paper....and our 2nd marriage certificate is the one we used for applying the visa...

[Jersey Girl 2]

If you ask the wrong question, you'll get the wrong answer.

It's not a question about the validity of the first or second marriage to the current wife. It's about the attempt to have two marriages to two wives at the same time.

A polygamous marriage is, by definition, invalid (at least in the U.S.) The point is, it's also illegal, and cannot be brushed off with a friendly explanation (whatever that might be.)

Fact is, the man tried to have 2 marriages simultaneously, so the real question is: is he eligible given a polygamist past?

[Robor007 0]

Yeah but ... isn't polygamy grounds for denial?

I think the consensus thinking here is since the original marriage wasn't valid it wouldn't be considered polygamy. I'm still a little confused on the whole thing. As I said in previous posts, how can the Philippines marry someone and (as is assumed here) find out the marriage was invalid without notifying either of them? Or if they had no idea about the validity of the original marriage how can they marry them the following year without questioning the original marriage? It could be that this was all explained to the authorities at some point and just missing here but as it reads it's very confusing to me. I do have to wonder why the OP's husband though it would be okay to marry in the Philippines before his divorce was finalized in the US.

Hello..This is what happened at the 1st marriage..We also applied to get legal capacity to the US embassy but he didnot tell the truth that he was married before.. So we got legal capacity and we got married after 10days and the 1st marraige is also registerded to NSO....We already knew that we cant apply for visa so we talked to the people who from the civil office and tell the whole thruth and we asked them for some advice what we gonna do..they told us that the 1st thing we made is authomatically void so they suggested us to remarry again..my husband visited again here 2006 and get legal capacity but this time he all ready tell the truth that he is divorced he also show his divorced paper....and our 2nd marriage certificate is the one we used for applying the visa...

Ah, so you did explain the original marriage to the Philippine authorities when you applied for the marriage certificate for the 2nd marriage. Unless I missed it in this thread, you left that very important detail out. That's what I couldn't understand. How could they issue you a marriage license in 2005 then issue you another one in 2006 without asking about the previous marriage? If you told the truth then I think things will be okay. Just continue to tell the truth. Lying to immigration is a very bad idea because (from what I've read) the penalties are severe and slow to fix.

[Shamar30 0]

If you ask the wrong question, you'll get the wrong answer.

It's not a question about the validity of the first or second marriage to the current wife. It's about the attempt to have two marriages to two wives at the same time.

A polygamous marriage is, by definition, invalid (at least in the U.S.) The point is, it's also illegal, and cannot be brushed off with a friendly explanation (whatever that might be.)

Fact is, the man tried to have 2 marriages simultaneously, so the real question is: is he eligible given a polygamist past?

Hello so it means we are really get denie....they are both seperated over a year and then its only 3 weeks gap.. our 1st marriage happened and then after 3 weeks divorced papers finalized...

[Robor007 0]

If you ask the wrong question, you'll get the wrong answer.

It's not a question about the validity of the first or second marriage to the current wife. It's about the attempt to have two marriages to two wives at the same time.

A polygamous marriage is, by definition, invalid (at least in the U.S.) The point is, it's also illegal, and cannot be brushed off with a friendly explanation (whatever that might be.)

Fact is, the man tried to have 2 marriages simultaneously, so the real question is: is he eligible given a polygamist past?

That's a good point/question. I was focusing on the the Philippine side. I wonder how that is viewed on the US side? I know the US recognizes foreign marriages. Since they do that do they also recognize the Philippines considers their marriage in 2005 void? I thought it was all clear but now it's even more confusing now.

[Jersey Girl 2]

Did he apply for a visa for the first wife as well?

[Shamar30 0]

Did he apply for a visa for the first wife as well?

No he did not he is divorced to American girl

[luvbugs4ever 0]

That's a good point/question. I was focusing on the the Philippine side. I wonder how that is viewed on the US side? I know the US recognizes foreign marriages. Since they do that do they also recognize the Philippines considers their marriage in 2005 void? I thought it was all clear but now it's even more confusing now.

Of course US will recognize the invalidity of marriage just like how they recognize the validity of foreign marriages.

About the polygamy thing, yeah he might be questioned for this and he is lucky if the authorities wont give him the right sanction of what he did. Problem will occur here if the consul will not totally be convinced of your honesty, since you already did a fraudulent act before. Anyways, Good luck and God bless!

[Killer_Clown_2009 0]

Out of curiosity can I ask why he didn't wait for his divorce to be final before marrying you?

Edited January 5, 2007 by jane2005

[Shamar30 0]

Out of curiosity can I ask why he didn't wait for his divorce to be final before marrying you?

Hello..like this thats time i really need to go back to my work, im working in Brunie as a Sale's lady...we just talked online everyday and when i went back home for vacation he really dont want me to leave and asked me to stay here and he told me that he will come here and we get married no matter what just for me to stay here...and thats it he filed vacation and come here..but tht the time the divorced paper is already signed by his ex the only thing he do is he did not file it right away cos he is visited here.

[Jeff and Boo 0]

Out of curiosity can I ask why he didn't wait for his divorce to be final before marrying you?

Hello..like this thats time i really need to go back to my work, im working in Brunie as a Sale's lady...we just talked online everyday and when i went back home for vacation he really dont want me to leave and asked me to stay here and he told me that he will come here and we get married no matter what just for me to stay here...and thats it he filed vacation and come here..but tht the time the divorced paper is already signed by his ex the only thing he do is he did not file it right away cos he is visited here.

hello shamar!!! did you or did not file the first marriage to NSO? coz if you did filed it.. that would be a big problem. it will appear on their data base for your CENOMAR..and everything will be complicated.. and to the fact that your hubby lied on his status before better sis ask somebody who has real knowledge on your situation( to be sure)Good Luck!