non-immigrant or immigrant k1 visa?

[jabadilla 0]

i went through immigrant k1 visa for the interview does this matter?

[Girl from Celebes 588]

i went through immigrant k1 visa for the interview does this matter?

K-1 visa is a dual intent visa. Generally classify as a non- immigrant visa, at US embassies a K-1 visa treated as an immigrant visa since the holder has intent to immigrate to the US.

[jabadilla 0]

K-1 visa is a dual intent visa. Generally classify as a non- immigrant visa, at US embassies a K-1 visa treated as an immigrant visa since the holder has intent to immigrate to the US.

thank you!

[Hank_ 9,174]

i went through immigrant k1 visa for the interview does this matter?

The K-1 is treated as an immigrant visa, and processed at the embassy by the immigrant unit. All is good.

K-1 visa is a dual intent visa. Generally classify as a non- immigrant visa, at US embassies a K-1 visa treated as an immigrant visa since the holder has intent to immigrate to the US.

K-1 is a single intent visa.... to get married in the USA. It is a non-immigrant visa processed as an immigrant visa (totally agree), the holder of this visa has only one requirement after being issued this visa - get married in the USA, once that is completed they are now immigrants and processes as an immigrant.

Edited March 5, 2014 by Hank_

[Girl from Celebes 588]

The K-1 is treated as an immigrant visa, and processed at the embassy by the immigrant unit. All is good.

K-1 is a single intent visa.... to get married in the USA. It is a non-immigrant visa processed as an immigrant visa (totally agree), the holder of this visa has only one requirement after being issued this visa - get married in the USA, once that is completed they are now immigrants and processes as an immigrant.

Or probably Wikipedia is wrong?Just let me know.....

A K-1 visa is a dual intent visa issued to the fiancé or fiancée of a United States citizen to enter the United States. A K-1 visa requires a foreigner to marry his or her U.S. citizen petitioner within 90 days of entry. Once the couple marries, the foreign citizen can adjust status to become a lawful permanent resident of the United States (Green Card holder). Although a K-1 visa is legally classified as a non-immigrant visa, it usually leads to important immigration benefits and is therefore often processed by the Immigrant Visa section of United States embassies and consulates worldwide. If a K-1 visa holder does not marry his or her U.S. citizen petitioner within 90 days of entry, then he or she must depart the United States within 30 days.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-1_visa

[Hank_ 9,174]

Or probably Wikipedia is wrong?Just let me know.....

A K-1 visa is a dual intent visa issued to the fiancé or fiancée of a United States citizen to enter the United States. A K-1 visa requires a foreigner to marry his or her U.S. citizen petitioner within 90 days of entry. Once the couple marries, the foreign citizen can adjust status to become a lawful permanent resident of the United States (Green Card holder). Although a K-1 visa is legally classified as a non-immigrant visa, it usually leads to important immigration benefits and is therefore often processed by the Immigrant Visa section of United States embassies and consulates worldwide. If a K-1 visa holder does not marry his or her U.S. citizen petitioner within 90 days of entry, then he or she must depart the United States within 30 days.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-1_visa

Wikipedia gets it's information from postings entered by individuals, I for sure would not use it as a source. Heck I even have an entry in Wikipedia.

So the question would be for you: If the K-1 is a dual intent visa, what is the OTHER intent?

Now here is info from a, for sure, more reliable source (which BTW reflects what I said):

http://travel.state.gov/content/visas/english/immigrate/types/family/fiance-k-1.html

Overview: What Is a K-1 Visa?

The fiancé(e) K-1 nonimmigrant visa is for the foreign-citizen fiancé(e) of a United States (U.S.) citizen. The K-1 visa permits the foreign-citizen fiancé(e) to travel to the United States and marry his or her U.S. citizen sponsor within 90 days of arrival. The foreign-citizen will then apply for adjustment of status to a permanent resident (LPR) with the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS). Because a fiancé(e) visa permits the holder to immigrate to the U.S. and marry a U.S. citizen shortly after arrival in the United States, the fiancé(e) must meet some of the requirements of an immigrant visa. Eligible children of K-1 visa applicants receive K-2 visas.

What Is a “Fiancé(e)”?

Under U.S. immigration law, a foreign-citizen fiancé(e) of a U.S. citizen is the recipient of an approved Petition for Alien Fiancé(e), Form I-129F, who has been issued a nonimmigrant K-1 visa for travel to the United States in order to marry his or her U.S. citizen fiancé(e). Both the U.S. citizen and the K-1 visa applicant must have been legally free to marry at the time the petition was filed and must have remained so thereafter. The marriage must be legally possible according to laws of the U.S. state in which the marriage will take place.

In general, the foreign-citizen fiancé(e) and U.S. citizen sponsor must have met in person within the past two years. USCIS may grant an exception to this requirement, based on extreme hardship for the U.S. citizen sponsor to personally meet the foreign-citizen fiancé(e), or, for example, if it is contrary in the U.S. citizen sponsor’s or foreign-citizen fiancé(e)’s culture for a man and woman to meet before marriage.

Edited March 5, 2014 by Hank_

[Zedayn 485]

I agree there is only one intent for a K-1 visa. However, I think in Wikipedia the term "dual-intent" is being incorrectly used. I can understand it from this point: on one hand its classified as a non-immigrant visa, but on the other its treated as an immigrant visa.

[Hank_ 9,174]

Or probably Wikipedia is wrong?Just let me know.....

A K-1 visa is a dual intent visa issued to the fiancé or fiancée of a United States citizen to enter the United States. A K-1 visa requires a foreigner to marry his or her U.S. citizen petitioner within 90 days of entry. Once the couple marries, the foreign citizen can adjust status to become a lawful permanent resident of the United States (Green Card holder). Although a K-1 visa is legally classified as a non-immigrant visa, it usually leads to important immigration benefits and is therefore often processed by the Immigrant Visa section of United States embassies and consulates worldwide. If a K-1 visa holder does not marry his or her U.S. citizen petitioner within 90 days of entry, then he or she must depart the United States within 30 days.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-1_visa

Try that wikipedia link now and see what it states. Anyone can post stuff on there.

Edited March 5, 2014 by Hank_

[Girl from Celebes 588]

Wikipedia gets it's information from postings entered by individuals, I for sure would not use it as a source. Heck I even have an entry in Wikipedia.

So the question would be for you: If the K-1 is a dual intent visa, what is the OTHER intent?

Now here is info from a, for sure, more reliable source (which BTW reflects what I said):

http://travel.state.gov/content/visas/english/immigrate/types/family/fiance-k-1.html

Overview: What Is a K-1 Visa?

The fiancé(e) K-1 nonimmigrant visa is for the foreign-citizen fiancé(e) of a United States (U.S.) citizen. The K-1 visa permits the foreign-citizen fiancé(e) to travel to the United States and marry his or her U.S. citizen sponsor within 90 days of arrival. The foreign-citizen will then apply for adjustment of status to a permanent resident (LPR) with the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS). Because a fiancé(e) visa permits the holder to immigrate to the U.S. and marry a U.S. citizen shortly after arrival in the United States, the fiancé(e) must meet some of the requirements of an immigrant visa. Eligible children of K-1 visa applicants receive K-2 visas.

What Is a “Fiancé(e)”?

Under U.S. immigration law, a foreign-citizen fiancé(e) of a U.S. citizen is the recipient of an approved Petition for Alien Fiancé(e), Form I-129F, who has been issued a nonimmigrant K-1 visa for travel to the United States in order to marry his or her U.S. citizen fiancé(e). Both the U.S. citizen and the K-1 visa applicant must have been legally free to marry at the time the petition was filed and must have remained so thereafter. The marriage must be legally possible according to laws of the U.S. state in which the marriage will take place.

In general, the foreign-citizen fiancé(e) and U.S. citizen sponsor must have met in person within the past two years. USCIS may grant an exception to this requirement, based on extreme hardship for the U.S. citizen sponsor to personally meet the foreign-citizen fiancé(e), or, for example, if it is contrary in the U.S. citizen sponsor’s or foreign-citizen fiancé(e)’s culture for a man and woman to meet before marriage.

Back to the term of dual intent of K-1 visa, from what my understanding, the reason why it is categorized as dual intent because fiance(e) enter US as non-immigrant visa and changed their status after they got married (immigrant intent ) by AOS. But, there is a limit for that as he/she has to leave the country if she/he is not marry the petitioner. If K-1 visa as categorized as an immigrant visa, the holder doesn't have to leave the country even though she/he is not marry the petitioner, doesn't it?. I might be wrong since I am not an expert or immigration lawyer on this case.

This is from another link. I bet this one is not an easy to changed by an individual unless they are an admin or moderator.

http://www.legallanguage.com/legal-articles/what-is-dual-intent/

[Hank_ 9,174]

Back to the term of dual intent of K-1 visa, from what my understanding, the reason why it is categorized as dual intent because fiance(e) enter US as non-immigrant visa and changed their status after they got married (immigrant intent ) by AOS. But, there is a limit for that as he/she has to leave the country if she/he is not marry the petitioner. If K-1 visa as categorized as an immigrant visa, the holder doesn't have to leave the country even though she/he is not marry the petitioner, doesn't it?. I might be wrong since I am not an expert or immigration lawyer on this case.

This is from another link. I bet this one is not an easy to changed by an individual unless they are an admin or moderator.

http://www.legallanguage.com/legal-articles/what-is-dual-intent/

That link you provided is still just some individuals website and opinion, give me a link from a official government website that states a person can use the K-1 visa for another intent besides getting married to a USC.... something to justify your bantering about dual intent. Until then, I will stick with the information from the Department of State for the USA, and the Department of State lists only ONE intent. See my previous post.

[Girl from Celebes 588]

That link you provided is still just some individuals website and opinion, give me a link from a official government website that states a person can use the K-1 visa for another intent besides getting married to a USC.... something to justify your bantering about dual intent. Until then, I will stick with the information from the Department of State for the USA, and the Department of State lists only ONE intent. See my previous post.

I already knew someone changed information on Wikipedia without looking at it. While it doesn't stated clearly on the official government website since they usually vague about information they are provided I do still believe a K-1 visa is dual intent visa. For my understanding, dual intent is from what an immigration term. Besides married to USC as non-immigrant, they also have intent to changed their status to an immigrant.

K-1 visa holder doesn't have to stay in the US after married. That's why they issued a specific visa if someone wants to marry a USC in the US but doesn't want to remain there. Based on my experience for B-2 visa (non-immigrant visa) refusal, after the CO asked me whether I have a plan to marry my then boyfriend - my now fiance-, she gave me a green paper stating filing petition for K-1 visa. That's a legal way to married a USC in the US and the visa holder can choose whether she/he wants to stay in the US or comes back to their native countries.

On other note: I am going to ask to the US consular officer in Jakarta about the specific information for this visa. I will posted back here. Meanwhile, I will stick with my understanding about K-1 visa term.

[Hank_ 9,174]

I already knew someone changed information on Wikipedia without looking at it. While it doesn't stated clearly on the official government website since they usually vague about information they are provided I do still believe a K-1 visa is dual intent visa. For my understanding, dual intent is from what an immigration term. Besides married to USC as non-immigrant, they also have intent to changed their status to an immigrant.

K-1 visa holder doesn't have to stay in the US after married. That's why they issued a specific visa if someone wants to marry a USC in the US but doesn't want to remain there. Based on my experience for B-2 visa (non-immigrant visa) refusal, after the CO asked me whether I have a plan to marry my then boyfriend - my now fiance-, she gave me a green paper stating filing petition for K-1 visa. That's a legal way to married a USC in the US and the visa holder can choose whether she/he wants to stay in the US or comes back to their native countries.

On other note: I am going to ask to the US consular officer in Jakarta about the specific information for this visa. I will posted back here. Meanwhile, I will stick with my understanding about K-1 visa term.

Seriously? You are going to say the official government website is vague, but some individuals website where they post their opinion is "the facts" ? You are really grasping at smoke with that comment you made above. The intent of the K-1 visa is NOT for someone to marry a USC in the United States then leave again... good grief. For what reason would a person do that? (I do grant there are cases of people arriving, not getting married then leaving again but that is not a dual intent situation, I will also grant there are cases of someone arriving, getting married then poof they walk out the door but do not leave the USA - they did have a "DUAL INTENT" but that is called visa fraud) I mean really, one does not need a K-1 to marry a USC in the USA then leave again. You better grab the cheese it is slipping off the cracker.

You are going to ask the consulate officer at the embassy and get back to me? Psst! Who do you think the consulate officer works for? Big hint here: THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE. The same source I have quoted to you and you have ignored, or try to say is vague in their definition.

What is vague about this? What don't you comprehend?

The fiancé(e) K-1 nonimmigrant visa is for the foreign-citizen fiancé(e) of a United States (U.S.) citizen. The K-1 visa permits the foreign-citizen fiancé(e) to travel to the United States and marry his or her U.S. citizen sponsor within 90 days of arrival. The foreign-citizen will then apply for adjustment of status to a permanent resident (LPR) with the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS). Because a fiancé(e) visa permits the holder to immigrate to the U.S. and marry a U.S. citizen shortly after arrival in the United States, the fiancé(e) must meet some of the requirements of an immigrant visa.

The K-1 for sure is not a DUAL intent visa. It's intent is singular in purpose and is as stated by the DEPARTMENT OF STATE.

~ Good grief!

[Girl from Celebes 588]

Seriously? You are going to say the official government website is vague, but some individuals website where they post their opinion is "the facts" ? You are really grasping at smoke with that comment you made above. The intent of the K-1 visa is NOT for someone to marry a USC in the United States then leave again... good grief. For what reason would a person do that? (I do grant there are cases of people arriving, not getting married then leaving again but that is not a dual intent situation, I will also grant there are cases of someone arriving, getting married then poof they walk out the door but do not leave the USA - they did have a "DUAL INTENT" but that is called visa fraud) I mean really, one does not need a K-1 to marry a USC in the USA then leave again. You better grab the cheese it is slipping off the cracker.

You are going to ask the consulate officer at the embassy and get back to me? Psst! Who do you think the consulate officer works for? Big hint here: THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE. The same source I have quoted to you and you have ignored, or try to say is vague in their definition.

What is vague about this? What don't you comprehend?

The fiancé(e) K-1 nonimmigrant visa is for the foreign-citizen fiancé(e) of a United States (U.S.) citizen. The K-1 visa permits the foreign-citizen fiancé(e) to travel to the United States and marry his or her U.S. citizen sponsor within 90 days of arrival. The foreign-citizen will then apply for adjustment of status to a permanent resident (LPR) with the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS). Because a fiancé(e) visa permits the holder to immigrate to the U.S. and marry a U.S. citizen shortly after arrival in the United States, the fiancé(e) must meet some of the requirements of an immigrant visa.

The K-1 for sure is not a DUAL intent visa. It's intent is singular in purpose and is as stated by the DEPARTMENT OF STATE.

~ Good grief!

Of course, some people don't want to stay in the US, if you read another posts here. Also, I did complain to the then US ambassador for Indonesia, Scot Marciel, and some officials from Utah government when I had chance interviewed them a while back about how the CO did not even looked at evidence that I brought for B-2 visa interview and I can do that again in the future. I think this an open discussion forum and we are freely to express our opinion without being "harsh".

[Girl from Celebes 588]

Seriously? You are going to say the official government website is vague, but some individuals website where they post their opinion is "the facts" ? You are really grasping at smoke with that comment you made above. The intent of the K-1 visa is NOT for someone to marry a USC in the United States then leave again... good grief. For what reason would a person do that? (I do grant there are cases of people arriving, not getting married then leaving again but that is not a dual intent situation, I will also grant there are cases of someone arriving, getting married then poof they walk out the door but do not leave the USA - they did have a "DUAL INTENT" but that is called visa fraud) I mean really, one does not need a K-1 to marry a USC in the USA then leave again. You better grab the cheese it is slipping off the cracker.

You are going to ask the consulate officer at the embassy and get back to me? Psst! Who do you think the consulate officer works for? Big hint here: THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE. The same source I have quoted to you and you have ignored, or try to say is vague in their definition.

What is vague about this? What don't you comprehend?

The fiancé(e) K-1 nonimmigrant visa is for the foreign-citizen fiancé(e) of a United States (U.S.) citizen. The K-1 visa permits the foreign-citizen fiancé(e) to travel to the United States and marry his or her U.S. citizen sponsor within 90 days of arrival. The foreign-citizen will then apply for adjustment of status to a permanent resident (LPR) with the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS). Because a fiancé(e) visa permits the holder to immigrate to the U.S. and marry a U.S. citizen shortly after arrival in the United States, the fiancé(e) must meet some of the requirements of an immigrant visa.

The K-1 for sure is not a DUAL intent visa. It's intent is singular in purpose and is as stated by the DEPARTMENT OF STATE.

~ Good grief!

See those words I bolded from your post.

[Hank_ 9,174]

Of course, some people don't want to stay in the US, if you read another posts here. Also, I did complain to the then US ambassador for Indonesia, Scot Marciel, and some officials from Utah government when I had chance interviewed them a while back about how the CO did not even looked at evidence that I brought for B-2 visa interview and I can do that again in the future. I think this an open discussion forum and we are freely to express our opinion without being "harsh".

Yes some people do make the PERSONAL CHOICE of not staying in the USA but that has NOTHING to do with the intent of the K-1 visa, that is strictly the choice a person makes and has no bearing on your "DUAL INTENT" statement that I called into question.

Yup it is an open forum, and I absolutely do not "buy" your statement about the K-1 visa being a dual intent visa so I am calling you on it. And yes I am questioning your reasoning/logic when you ignore the facts from the DEPARTMENT OF STATE regarding the actual singular intent of the K-1 visa.

I even asked you to define the SECOND purpose of the K-1 visa, of course I would want it not to be a personal opinion and for sure substantiated by facts from the U.S. government.

Plain and simple, SHOW ME THE BEEF! As in show me the U.S. government website that states the K-1 visa is a dual intent visa and also lists it two intents. I have shown you government websites stating the singular purpose of the K-1 visa.

I am not sure what you are saying by tossing in comment about a B-2 visa.... don't care. So you didn't get a B-2 visa, you aren't the first to be denied.