President Obama’s foreign policy is based on fantasy

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Put the Kleenex away. Your Femdom M(utti)ILF fantasies don't belong here, a family site.

touché

[Novembro 1,763]

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

the latter

[Pooky 3,791]

Generally speaking its probably best to just stay out of the mess and fall in line with whatever the EU wants to do.

But there is this tiny voice in my head that says do the unexpected like offer the Ukraine a no flyzone over east Ukraine.

Not an option. The Russian Air Force has closer bases and equipment that would make life very difficult for USAF or USN assets, unless the USAF would be prepared to put F-22 Raptors in-theatre.

[Pooky 3,791]

That's not how she's perceived on the other side of the pond. Germans call her Mutti, those on the European periphery rather refer to her as the iron chancellor. Forbes didn't name her the second most powerful person in the world in 2012 and the fourth most powerful person in the world the year prior for being all talk. It was Mutti who - rightly or wrongly - put the Euro zone on its austerity path. And Mutti stuck with it and had the rest of the Euro zone stick with it when it was less than popular to put it mildly. She pizzed the Euro zone countries off and yet held them together all at the same time. No, no, Mutti is more than talk. Much more.

Germany would not risk losing Russian energy unless and until there was a reliable, alternative supply secured.

I very much doubt there will be substantive sanctions coming out of Europe. There just isn't enough financial strength and cohesion there.

[GandD 5,966]

Not an option. The Russian Air Force has closer bases and equipment that would make life very difficult for USAF or USN assets, unless the USAF would be prepared to put F-22 Raptors in-theatre.

That would be interesting for us spectators.

[Pooky 3,791]

That would be interesting for us spectators.

It would be a waste of pilots' lives.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

There will be no military engagement of either the EU or the US against Russia.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Russia wins, as we always knew they would. Put that in your borscht and smoke it!

Comrade!

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Russia wins, as we always knew they would. Put that in your borscht and smoke it!

Comrade!

How do you smoke a soup, Comrade?

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

How do you smoke a soup, Comrade?

I ask my wife that very question all the time.

[GandD 5,966]

It would be a waste of pilots' lives.

Get your reality out of my gi joe play time.

How do you smoke a soup, Comrade?

[Pooky 3,791]

Get your reality out of my gi joe play time.

If you wanted to mess with the Russian Air Force without the Raptors, the best assets available are the RAF and Luftwaffe Typhoons. Being at an appreciable advantage over the Russian Su-27 and MiG-35, not to mention any F-15, F-16, or F-18, they might give the Russian pilots pause for thought.

But it won't happen. The only things that can rein in the Russian military are a collapsing economy, or collapsing public support, if the Ukraine turns bloody.

[Darnell 8,478]

How, without affecting our ability to buy their product? The north american fracking boom is well and good but it hasn't matured to the point where it can supplant russian supply yet.

the pipelines out of Russia have valves, ya know, and

the valves outside of russia can be turned off.

No Boom Boom Required.