Putin's war, not Obama's

[Karee 4,191]

So prior to that, no mess existed according to your assessment? Interesting interpretation of events.

What assessment? I didn't make any assessment. You posted the assessment.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

I agree! You guys are so right on! I knew instantly that Sarah Palin was a ditz when I watched Bill Mahr announce that Sarah Palin's daughter was a k unt. I mean, that is Sarah Palin's fault for being a bad parent. Martin Bashir really let her have it where she deserves when he said someone should piss and defecate in her mouth. I think this is the best way to handle those right-wing loonies. Don't you agree?

I think that disrespecting someone, regardless of political affiliation, is just distasteful. But, let's be clear. The right has said some pretty nasty stuff about the left as well. From Rush calling Ms. Fluke a #######, to Bill and Rush going after Obama's daughters. There's crazies on both sides of the aisle.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

What assessment? I didn't make any assessment. You posted the assessment.

It was your assessment that 'the mess' as you defined it, began when Putin sent troops to the Ukraine peninsula, Crimea. Do you want to revise that assessment or are you satisfied with your interpretation of events? Edited March 3, 2014 by Porterhouse

[LibCampFireClub 635]

I think that disrespecting someone, regardless of political affiliation, is just distasteful. But, let's be clear. The right has said some pretty nasty stuff about the left as well. From Rush calling Ms. Fluke a #######, to Bill and Rush going after Obama's daughters. There's crazies on both sides of the aisle.

I don't mind that Sandra Fluke is a #######. We should all support her right to have American taxpayers pay for all the condoms she can use!

[Karee 4,191]

It was your assessment that 'the mess' as you defined it, began when Putin sent troops to the Ukraine peninsula, Crimea. Do you want to revise that assessment or are you satisfied with your interpretation of events?

Yes I'd say that caused this mess. Mess for who is debatable. Certain NATO members are talking about invoking article 5. The Russian economy is being hit hard by this "mess." Russia sent troops into sovereign nation.

Do you want to play word games Steven, or discuss the topic that YOU started?

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

I don't mind that Sandra Fluke is a #######. We should all support her right to have American taxpayers pay for all the condoms she can use!

Point is, she wasn't. Nor did she deserve to be called one, just like Mrs. Palin's daughter shouldn't have been called the c-word, nor should someone suggest she should have a mouthful of fecal matter and urine.

[Karee 4,191]

Word Games with Steven

[LibCampFireClub 635]

Point is, she wasn't. Nor did she deserve to be called one, just like Mrs. Palin's daughter shouldn't have been called the c-word, nor should someone suggest she should have a mouthful of fecal matter and urine.

Let's face it, the country is divided and the gloves are off when it comes to what is happening in Washington. There's nothing new in the world of politics and each side will throw as much shiite as possible and see if it sticks. Let the cards fall where they may.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Yes I'd say that caused this mess. Mess for who is debatable. Certain NATO members are talking about invoking article 5. The Russian economy is being hit hard by this "mess." Russia sent troops into sovereign nation.

Do you want to play word games Steven, or discuss the topic that YOU started?

That's an interesting interpretation of events. An interpretation that ignores the events that happened prior, ignores Putin's involvement prior, ignores the geopolitical dynamics of that region. Defining what essentially is a very selective set of events as 'a mess' while ignoring everything surrounding it is quite interesting.

[Karee 4,191]

That's an interesting interpretation of events. An interpretation that ignores the events that happened prior, ignores Putin's involvement prior, ignores the geopolitical dynamics of that region. Defining what essentially is a very selective set of events as 'a mess' while ignoring everything surrounding it is quite interesting.

You're welcome. Any time. Just ask nicely.

[JohnR! 5,495]

Let's face it, the country is divided and the gloves are off when it comes to what is happening in Washington. There's nothing new in the world of politics and each side will throw as much shiite as possible and see if it sticks. Let the cards fall where they may.

Looking at the political scenario, it is not the country that is divided, so much as there is a rift in the GOP between the conservatives and the Teaparty Bullies fifth-columnists who have highjacked the party.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Let's face it, the country is divided and the gloves are off when it comes to what is happening in Washington. There's nothing new in the world of politics and each side will throw as much shiite as possible and see if it sticks. Let the cards fall where they may.

Doesn't make it right. This country needs more common sense, since it appears that right and wrong are defined by which party says it. Instead of feigning outrage when the opposite side does something wrong, check your own party when they insert their own foot in the mouth.

[Dakine10 5,452]

The article is correct. Nothing Obama did or didn't do would have stopped Russia in Crimea.

Russia already see's the west as active players in the destabilization of Ukraine. The events set in place when that happened can not be altered by rhetoric. As Kiev was burning, the roads into Crimea were being blocked. The main fiber optic communication line was cut. The events in Kiev were well orchestrated. So are the events in Crimea.

Russia didn't decide to get involved on Feb 21st 2014. They have wanted this since 1991. They have been thinking about it since 1954. Anyone who doesn't know what those dates mean to Russia and Crimea is missing the boat here. Every time the lease comes up on the Sevastopol base, people thought about war. Everyone knows Russia would never give it up.

There's a reason Russia didn't get involved in November. There's a reason they didn't interfere in Kiev and they didn't do anything to keep Yanukovich in power. They may look like the bad guy around the world, but they are heroes to people in the south and east Ukraine now. They will get what they wanted and they might even do it without firing a single shot.

[LibCampFireClub 635]

Looking at the political scenario, it is not the country that is divided, so much as there is a rift in the GOP between the conservatives and the Teaparty Bullies fifth-columnists who have highjacked the party.

I'm familiar with your rose-colored glasses that you fully support the president. On the other hand, I have heard the words straight from his mouth that have alienated not only me, but anyone who disagrees with him.

[Karee 4,191]

Looking at the political scenario, it is not the country that is divided, so much as there is a rift in the GOP between the conservatives and the Teaparty Bullies fifth-columnists who have highjacked the party.

Wow. How astute. Blame the division on the tea party. Do you have a political science degree from the Evelyn Wood school of Politics?