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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Russia
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Hello everyone!

So my wife (the U.S. citizen) will be filling out the I-864 form soon and we wanted to confirm something.

She hasn't been working in the US for the past 3 years I believe and currently is teaching English in South Korea. (for just one month so far) Now, what we heard before is that the alternative way to submit the affidavit of support if a U.S. citizen doesn't have a job would be to provide the evidence of a certain amount of money in her bank account. Which, as far as I can remember, should be 4 times the annual salary (which should be %125 of poverty line). Is this correct?

And if it is, how should we fill out the form? Just leave the income fields empty or put $0 in there and attach a bank receipt to the form?

I am sorry if this is all very wrong, just trying to straighten things out at least a bit.

Thank you for your time.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Taiwan
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Have you checked the official instructions for the I-864 Affidavit of Support form?

Removal of Conditions:

2016-09-27: I-751 removal of conditions petition sent (with fee waiver request)

2016-09-30: I-751 petition delivered to California Service Center

2016-11-01: Informed in USCIS customer service call that they had no record of receiving our petition, but that it might still be languishing somewhere in fee waiver limbo

2016-11-01: Filed I-751 again, this time with payment check instead of fee waiver request (sent Priority Express)

2016-11-03: Date on I-797 Notice of Action (received 11/7)

2016-11-09: USCIS mailed out denial of our original fee waiver request, with denial letter dated 2016-11-02

2016-11-19: Biometrics appointment notice issued, for 2016-12-07 appointment

2016-11-26: Second biometrics appointment notice issue, for 2016-12-16 appointment (see this thread)

2016-12-07: Biometrics appointment. Allowed to complete biometrics despite mix-up on their end (again see this thread), but some people had to come back for second appointment date.

2018-05-01: Notice that our case was transferred to National Benefits Center in Lee's Summit, MO

2018-06-11: Approved after N-400 interview in Portland, OR (they seemed to be waiting for that before bothering with it)

 

Citizenship:

2017-12-11: N-400 Application for Naturalization submitted online while still waiting to hear back on I-751, received same day

2017-12-15: Biometrics notice

2018-01-04: Biometrics completed, on appointment date (Portland, OR)

2018-02-28: Interview scheduled for April 12 in Portland, OR

2018-03-01 (approximate): We sent in a letter requesting that the interview be rescheduled to after June 8, due to combination of work and family travel plans

2018-03-07: Notice that our April 12 interviewed had been "canceled" (pending rescheduling, but the letter didn't actually say that; officer at InfoPass later explained that interviews aren't scheduled until five or six weeks before the interview date, so they were waiting until closer to our requested rescheduling window)

2018-05-03: New interview scheduled for June 11.

2018-06-11: Citizenship interview - approved!

 

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Russia
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Well, I am reading now, but I still have some questions. The reason I ask this question again is because a fellow forum poster told me this almost a year ago:

You would put $0 in each year and have a letter to explain she wasn't required to file she was student.

Yes you can use strictly assets like stated 3 X what you need. Since you have 0 its now $19388 X 3=$58164 you would need deposited in the bank.

I just wanted to clarify if that's true.

Also, since I am reading the official instructions now I'd also like to inquire about this part:

Assets of the Intending Immigrant.

You may use the assets of the intending immigrant regardless of where he or she resides. The intending immigrant must provide evidence of such assets with this form. Form I-864A is not required to document the intending immigrant's assets.

Does this mean I, as an intending immigrant, can provide a bank statement with a certain amount of money in my account in order to fulfill the affidavit requirements?

I am really sorry if all these questions are annoying. We just got our NOA2 today and currently are reading up on all the information again (we did this before a year ago, but tried to focus on the first part, which was the I-130 package at the time). Don't want to appear as panicky, but as I am researching this I also have a need to consult someone in a similar situation, just to make sure I read everything right, which is why I posted this.

Thank you.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Russia
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Well, I read the information here http://www.***removed***/affidavit-of-support/using-assets-meet-income-requirements.html

And have a question now. Since that website says that I can use a bank account as an asset and that it doesn't have to be a petitioner's bank account, but can also be an intending immigrant's bank account I wanted to ask this:

What if my mother (beneficiary's) provides a bank statement from her account with the required amount of money and a paper saying she's giving me these money as gift. (that can be translated and notarized) Would that count as proof enough? It wouldn't be a lie or anything. That's the actual situation. My mother has a certain amount of money she is willing to give to me and my wife (the petitioner) for our future life together in the US. Now I am trying to understand if it's absolutely necessary to transfer the money to my wife's account or if what I said would be proof enough.

The problem is I don't have my account in Russia and right now my wife and I are living in Korea together and I can't register a bank account from here.

Thank you for your time.

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When using assets, a CO will want to see statements going back X amount of time (usually 6 months) that show the cash was there. They have the discretion to disallow a recent large deposit.

Our journey:

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September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

December 18, 2023:  Filed I-90 to renew Green Card

December 21, 2023:  Production of new Green Card ordered - will be seeing USCIS again every 10 years for renewal

 

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If you are allowed to use your savings for the affidavit of support (I'm not sure of this b/c we're in no position to do this!, but it makes sense to me because you're married - so presumably what's hers is yours and what's yours is hers), then it must be YOUR savings, not your mother's. She would need to officially give it to you as a gift. A bank statement of an account that isn't yours would certainly not mean anything.

I don't think you'd have to transfer the money to your wife, but the money would have to be in your name and/or your wife's name, no one else's.

I understand that this is a hassle, but you'll figure out a way to make it work.

If you are questioneed about it (and you probably will be), explain to the officer (as you explained to us) that it was an extremely generous wedding gift.

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Is your timeline updated?


Oath Ceremony Dec 14th, 2018 I am finally a citizen and done with USCIS for good!

 

 

IR-1/CR-1 Visa:                            

Marriage: 2013-08-05                                   I-130 Sent: 2013-10-07                                                 I-130 NOA1: 2013-10-09                               

I-130 transferred to VSC: 2014-03-12        I-130 NOA2: 2014-03-24                                              NVC Received: 2014-04-07 

Case Number and IIN: 2014-05-05             Sent ENROLL email for EP: 2014-05-06                    Gave email addresses to NVC: 2014-05-08             

DS261 submitted: 2014-05-09                    AOS invoiced and paid: 2014-05-12                           DS261 re-submitted - GRRRR! 2014-05-21               

ENROLL conf. email: 2014-06-05               Submitted AOS documents:2014-06-08                    IV fee email received: 2014-06-23 

IV fee available and paid: 2014-06-24       DS260  submitted: 2014-06-26                                   Case Complete: 2014-07-31                                       

Interview: 2014-09-19 APPROVED!!!          Visa in Hand: 2014-09-24 (Loomis depot)                POE (Pac Hwy Crossing, BC) 2014-11-08 

SSN Card arrived (approx) 2014-11-26     Green Card arrived (approx) 2014-12-17 

Removal of Conditions - I-751:

I-751 Mailed (USPS) Aug 10, 2016             NOA: August 17, 2016 (received Aug 23)                  Biometrics Letter Sent: Sept 23, 2016

Biometrics Letter Rec'd: Sept 30, 2016     Walk-In Biometrics Oct 6, 2016                                    Infopass for I-551 stamp Aug 17, 2017   

Service Request: Dec 27, 2017                   SR Response: Jan 10, 2018 (no prediction)              Senator Inquiry: Jan 5, 2018

Senator Resp: Jan 8, 2018 (60 days)         Service Request 2: Mar 8 2018                                   Senator Inquiry 2: Mar 9 2018

SR 2 Response: Mar 12 (security checks) Senator Response 2: Mar 13, 2018                            Approval (via phone!): Mar 14, 2018

New Green Card Arrived: Mar 22, 2018

Naturalization - N-400: 

Submitted N-400 Online: Feb 4, 2018       Denied for Payment Failure: Feb 8, 2018                     Resubmitted N-400 Online Feb 8, 2018

NOA: Feb 8, 2018                                          Biometrics: Feb 26, 2018                                                Interview: Nov 2,2018 (approved)

Oath: Dec 14, 2018

 

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Russia
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When using assets, a CO will want to see statements going back X amount of time (usually 6 months) that show the cash was there. They have the discretion to disallow a recent large deposit.

Ah, I see. Yeah, that link I posted says they want a bank account deposit/withdrawal history for the past 12 months. I do understand that a recent large deposit may seem suspicious. However, I wonder how old does the deposit have to be to seem valid? Because we are about to transfer the money to either my wife's account or somehow to mine. And our case has yet to be delivered to the NVC. So, let's say, if we get the bank statement now and the interview would only happen about 3 (maybe more) months after that would it be a problem to have a slightly old bank statement then? Can they ask for a more recent one? As far as I know the bank statement has to be in the same AOS package as the I-864 form which will be sent well ahead of the interview.

If you are allowed to use your savings for the affidavit of support (I'm not sure of this b/c we're in no position to do this!, but it makes sense to me because you're married - so presumably what's hers is yours and what's yours is hers), then it must be YOUR savings, not your mother's. She would need to officially give it to you as a gift. A bank statement of an account that isn't yours would certainly not mean anything.

I don't think you'd have to transfer the money to your wife, but the money would have to be in your name and/or your wife's name, no one else's.

I understand that this is a hassle, but you'll figure out a way to make it work.

If you are questioneed about it (and you probably will be), explain to the officer (as you explained to us) that it was an extremely generous wedding gift.

Yeah I think I am allowed to use my account as well and it does make sense to me that the money should be in my name, not my mother's. Guess I have to figure how to make an account now and get all the right papers saying she gave the money to me. I am also not sure if the bank account should necessary be russian. I recently opened an account here in Korea so perhaps I can use that one. Yeah, I understand I'll have to explain it, but we do seem to have plenty of proof of a bone fide marriage on our hands. (or at least I sure hope so!)

Thank you very much for your replies!

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