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  1. 1. If you were Emperor of the World, would you allow convenience store owners to put up a "No Homosexuals" or "No Adulterers" sign on their door?

    • Sure. Homosexuals and adulterers can shop elsewhere. That's competition. That's the free market. That's the American way. Murka!
    • No. Absolutely not. They should not be allowed to discriminate against homosexuals or adulterers just like they can't discriminate against black people or Jews.
  2. 2. Followup to Q1 - What if the homosexual and/or adulterer in question was engaging in open displays of immoral behavior?

    • That does not change my answer to the question.
    • That does change my answer to the question. I will explain below.


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PHOENIX - A controversial bill passed by the Arizona Legislature has sparked conversation and debate across the nation.

What does the new bill change?

Senate Bill 1062 re-defines and expands the state's definition of "exercise of religion" and "state action" to protect businesses, corporations and people from lawsuits after denying services based on a sincere religious belief.

According to the bill, "A person whose religious exercise is burdened in violation of this section may assert that violation as a claim or a defense in a judicial proceeding, regardless of whether the government is a party to the proceeding."

The bill also establishes a set of needed guidelines for when this potential defense could be used in court:

- The person's action or refusal to act is motivated by a religious belief

- The person's religious belief is sincerely held

- The state action substantially burdens the exercise of the person's religious beliefs

The bill defines a "person" as "any individual, association, partnership, corporation, church, religious assembly or institution or other business organization."

Opponents of the bill fear that the legislation would lead to businesses discriminating against people, such as those in same-sex unions, based solely on the owner's religious beliefs.

Cathi Herrod, President of the Center for Arizona Policy, an organization that supports the passing of the bill, says the bill "protects the religious freedom of every Arizonan."

In a statement released Saturday, Feb. 22, Herrod said, "It's a shame that we even need a bill like this in America. But growing hostility against freedom in our nation, and the increasing use of government to threaten and punish its own citizens, has made it necessary."

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The Arizona State Legislature approved passage of SB1062 on Thursday, Feb. 20. Governor Jan Brewer now has five days to either sign the legislation into law or veto it.

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"I think anybody that owns a business can choose who they work with or who they don't work with," Brewer told CNN in Washington on Friday. "But I don't know that it needs to be statutory. In my life and in my businesses, if I don't want to do business or if I don't want to deal with a particular company or person or whatever, I'm not interested. That's America. That's freedom."

http://www.abc15.com/news/state/understanding-sb-1062-7-things-you-need-to-know-about-arizonas-controversial-bill

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It's bigotry, pure and simple.

“Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.” – Coretta Scott King

"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

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Isn't it also bigotry to tell people of faith that they must be accepting of lifestyles they consider sinful?

How are they accepting anything? It's a service. You pay your money, get your food, clothing, etc, then leave. If you have an issue with Gay people, then say you don't want to serve them. Don't hide behind your religion because you're a bigot and lack the courage to say so. But when you lose other customers who don't share your views, own it.

“Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.” – Coretta Scott King

"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

President-Obama-jpg.jpg

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If my religion forbids me from engaging in commerce with sinful people, then how is it not a violation of my religious freedoms to compel me to do so?

News flash, everyone sins.

“Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.” – Coretta Scott King

"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

President-Obama-jpg.jpg

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It's bigotry, pure and simple.

Yes it is no doubt. However is it the Govt's place to tell you who you can and can not serve.

If you want to open a coffe shop that serves only black sailors, as distasteful as I may find it, I am not sure it should not be your right

Like I said it's sticky slope. Not sure the right answer. Deprive one persons rights to ensure anothers.

Posted

It's bigotry, pure and simple.

Yes it is no doubt. However is it the Govt's place to tell you who you can and can not serve.

If you want to open a coffe shop that serves only black sailors, as distasteful as I may find it, I am not sure it should not be your right

Like I said it's sticky slope. Not sure the right answer. Deprive one persons rights to ensure anothers.

 

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