Texas Senate approves drug testing for welfare

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

People on welfare are significantly less likely to use illegal drugs than the general population. That's what we found out here in Florida. Illegal drug use stands at roughly 10% in the state. Among welfare beneficiaries, it was found to be less than 2%. Cost an arm and a leg to debunk the Tea Party myth of the stoned welfare queens. I'd rather the Tea Party funds this useless ####### themselves. That would leave my tax dollars to help those in need and invest in the state's future. I don't like financing all this hate based nonsense.

Edited February 23, 2014 by Mr. Big Dog

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Republicans pushed by the Tea Party did that in Florida years ago. Courts struck it down as a violation of Constitutional rights - specifically it was found to violate the protection against unreasonable searches. But then, we all knew already that Tea Party Republicans generally don't appear to give a first damn about the Constitution. Nothing to see here, time to move along.

But oddly giving one at the job is not sweet

People on welfare are significantly less likely to use illegal drugs than the general population. That's what we found out here in Florida. Illegal drug use stands at roughly 10% in the state. Among welfare beneficiaries, it was found to be less than 2%. Cost an arm and a leg to debunk the Tea Party myth of the stoned welfare queens. I'd rather the Tea Party funds this useless ####### themselves. That would leave my tax dollars to help those in need and invest in the state's future. I don't like financing all this hate based nonsense.

Just like your fewer people own guns today despite record sales and carry applications, we have debunked this crock many times here also. So people in poverty are a lot less likely to use drugs.

ROFL

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Showing an ID to vote= Disenfranchisement

Taking a drug test to receive my our tax payer funded benefit= Disenfranchisement

Confiscating the gun of a honest hard working law abiding american== Justice

Yes they are that dumb

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

But oddly giving one at the job is not sweet

Just like your fewer people own guns today despite record sales and carry applications, we have debunked this crock many times here also. So people in poverty are a lot less likely to use drugs.

ROFL

Who has debunked the decreased household gun ownership rates here? You most certainly haven't. You keep saying that you have but you failed to actually ever do that. You're like a Republican - you keep repeating falsehoods over and over in the hopes of elevating them to fact. Works with your crowd perhaps but not with everyone else.

And yes, no matter how much you want to rtoll on the floor about it, only about 2% of people applying for welfare benefits were found to test positive for illegal drugs in the sunshine state. That's the reality. I know you rather not be exposed to reality so you should keep on ignoring it.

[Karee 4,191]

They're both voluntary. No drug test no job. No drug test, no welfare benefits.

No, they are not. You can change the law and change the basic premise if you want, but you'll have to go to the ballot boxes first.

Welfare isn't voluntary? News to me.

Edited February 23, 2014 by Karee

[Pooky 3,850]

No, they are not. You can change the law and change the basic premise if you want, but you'll have to go to the ballot boxes first.

But didn't the ballot box bring into office those proposing this legislation?

So the people have already voted, and this is what they voted for.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

But didn't the ballot box bring into office those proposing this legislation?

So the people have already voted, and this is what they voted for.

Thus far the courts have found these legislative initiatives to violate constitutional rights. Matters little whether people have voted those into office that want to violate the constitutional rights of the least fortunate among us. Remember, people also voted to deny some among us their right to marry and that's being struck down by the courts all the same. There are issues that are not a simple matter of the ballot box. This is one of those. What is happening there in Texas is what has happened here in Florida years ago - useless political grandstanding by a radical and inept slice of the polical landscape at the expense of the taxpayer.

Edited February 23, 2014 by Mr. Big Dog

[Pooky 3,850]

Thus far the courts have found these legislative initiatives to violate constitutional rights. Matters little whether people have voted those into office that want to violate the constitutional rights of the least fortunate among us. Remember, people also voted to deny some among us their right to marry and that's being struck down by the courts all the same. There are issues that are not a simple matter of the ballot box. This is one of those. What is happening there in Texas is what has happened here years ago - useless political grandstanding at the expense of the taxpayer.

You mean politicians are being politicians? I'd never have guessed!

Maybe the electorate need to realise that what they want ultimately makes little difference to what politicians will actually allow to happen and that the ballot box isn't the friend they thought it was.

[Karee 4,191]

But didn't the ballot box bring into office those proposing this legislation?

So the people have already voted, and this is what they voted for.

They should put every piece of legislation up for a popular vote. I can quit my job and vote in the daily elections full time.

[Pooky 3,850]

They should put every piece of legislation up for a popular vote. I can quit my job and vote in the daily elections full time.

And the perpetual campaigning, which we already have would just get worse.

[Karee 4,191]

And the perpetual campaigning, which we already have would just get worse.

All TV commercials would be political. I think the suicide rate would go up significantly. I'm already contemplating putting a pistol in my mouth watching continuous ads here in Texas. They are all trying to out-god each other, as well as going on about how they would tell Obama to pi$$ off if they got elected. Not to mention how they're going to stop illegal immigration when the state has nothing to do with it. It was funny at first, now it's just annoying. Kinda like when a 3 year old tells you the same joke over and over.

[Pooky 3,850]

All TV commercials would be political. I think the suicide rate would go up significantly. I'm already contemplating putting a pistol in my mouth watching continuous ads here in Texas. They are all trying to out-god each other, as well as going on about how they would tell Obama to pi$$ off if they got elected. Not to mention how they're going to stop illegal immigration when the state has nothing to do with it. It was funny at first, now it's just annoying. Kinda like when a 3 year old tells you the same joke over and over.

That was the great thing about elections in the UK. Everything was done and dusted in six weeks at the outside!

And after two weeks, people were bored with it anyway and switched back to watching their favourite soap opera.

[Karee 4,191]

That was the great thing about elections in the UK. Everything was done and dusted in six weeks at the outside!

And after two weeks, people were bored with it anyway and switched back to watching their favourite soap opera.

Canada is the same way. I think it was also about a 6 week campaign cycle. I couldn't believe it. It was awesome.

Also they don't have hours of personal injury lawyers running commercials constantly, but that's another topic.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

The 2.6 Fla number does not include the many hundreds who walked away because they knew they would fail. Always a gotcha when the liberal press reports a fact that makes no sense.That number is only the number who tried to beat the test and failed. Remember it's not Random.

Liberals been telling us in here for years how people trapped in Poverty have more sickness, less education and drugs are rampant.

Then turn around and tell us people in Poverty are much less likely to be on drugs than the Non-poverty population. Anyone with one iota of common sense and fundamental reasoning should know that is absurd.

[ppihtr123 68]

No, they are not. You can change the law and change the basic premise if you want, but you'll have to go to the ballot boxes first.

Yes they are. You apply for a job and you apply for benefits! Also if they can't pass a drug test, they may never get a job to get off the benefits.

You can throw around small percentages BUT if one knows there is a drug test, don't you think they would just forgo applying much like applying for a job that requires a drug test?